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TheBang 01-13-16 06:46 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 
Brokeback Mountain over Crash

Maz Kanata 01-13-16 07:30 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 

Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12694798)
I think that "Gump" is a "you had to be there" movie. I saw it in theatres the same week as I saw "Pulp Fiction". In retrospect, Pulp is a better movie and has had a longer-lasting effect on film-makng.

But Gump was an uplifting piece, and its special effects were mezmerising.It was universally appealing, and told a really good story. AIDS was still a pretty new, frightening, and mysterious thing, and the movie brought some humanity to it.


It was frickin' 1994.

JumpCutz 01-13-16 09:14 PM

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:lol:

Brack 01-13-16 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 12695449)
Julia Roberts having an Oscar makes them immediately irrelevant but her winning over Ellyn Burstyn makes it even worse.

To add to that same year, replace Gladiator with any other movie nominated, and that's including Erin Brockovich.

Brack 01-13-16 11:43 PM

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Philadelphia was released one year earlier, and covered AIDS much more than Forrest Gump.

inri222 01-13-16 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 12695467)
You did not like Where the Truth Lies?

Horrible


Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 12695502)
i forgot Stallone was up for Cop Land...yeah do-over!

He wasn't nominated.


Originally Posted by dom56 (Post 12694713)
Take away Dustin Hoffman's Oscar for Rainman and give it to Gene Hackman for Mississippi Burning. Gene got robbed IMO.

:up:


Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12695046)
Seriously? Gump is one of the most subversive insidious and least uplifting movies ever. It is a hateful, horrible movie with maybe the worst message of any movie i have ever seen. It is evil and I completely hate it. It should be destroyed

:up:

Three Day Delay 01-14-16 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12695738)
Philadelphia was released one year earlier, and covered AIDS much more than Forrest Gump.

Certainly. But it's not like Philadelphia wrapped it up and put it away.

Brack 01-14-16 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12695747)
Certainly. But it's not like Philadelphia wrapped it up and put it away.

I love Forest Gump, but that part of the movie is very minor at best.

Three Day Delay 01-14-16 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12695748)
I love Forest Gump, but that part of the movie is very minor at best.

We experienced the movie differently.

Brack 01-14-16 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12695752)
We experienced the movie differently.

It's like the last 10 minutes of the movie, so yep, I agree.

Three Day Delay 01-14-16 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12695753)
It's like the last 10 minutes of the movie, so yep, I agree.

Is that not part of the movie? Did the director just say "fuck it" in the last ten minutes?

Brack 01-14-16 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12695756)
Is that not part of the movie? Did the director just say "fuck it" in the last ten minutes?

Not saying that at all, but to say that AIDS was a major part of the film is reaching.

Three Day Delay 01-14-16 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12695757)
Not saying that at all, but to say that AIDS was a major part of the film is reaching.

I agree. It was not a major theme for the movie.

At that time and place, it was fairly eye-opening to have a lead character, particularly female, suffering from AIDS. It was not ground-breaking, but it was certainly a surprise.

Drexl 01-14-16 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 12695568)
Brokeback Mountain over Crash

There it is, finally. :thumbsup:

Ralph Fiennes for Schindler's List over Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive.

I hate to pick on Dustin Hoffman again, but I'd take away his Oscar for Kramer vs. Kramer and give it to Roy Scheider for All That Jazz. At least somebody gave him one for Midnight Cowboy, so he has that one.

Brack 01-14-16 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12695758)
I agree. It was not a major theme for the movie.

At that time and place, it was fairly eye-opening to have a lead character, particularly female, suffering from AIDS. It was not ground-breaking, but it was certainly a surprise.

Just a few posts you disagreed that it was a minor part of the movie. Now it is. I'm not arguing that the film didn't touch on it, but you have a movie that came out the previous year, with the same lead actor, that actually focused on AIDS quite a bit, where Jenny's death echoed Terms of Endearment more than anything else.

Three Day Delay 01-14-16 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12695763)
Just a few posts you disagreed that it was a minor part of the movie. Now it is. I'm not arguing that the film didn't touch on it, but you have a movie that came out the previous year, with the same lead actor, that actually focused on AIDS quite a bit, where Jenny's death echoed Terms of Endearment more than anything else.

I had to go back and review my posts to see if I had been contradictory. It's possible, but I couldn't find it.

I said "Gump was an uplifting piece, and its special effects were mezmerising. It was universally appealing, and told a really good story. AIDS was still a pretty new, frightening, and mysterious thing, and the movie brought some humanity to it."

Jenny certainly echoed Terms of Endearment. That's a quality observation, which I had never thought of before.

Ash Ketchum 01-14-16 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 12695760)
There it is, finally. :thumbsup:

Ralph Fiennes for Schindler's List over Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive.

I hate to pick on Dustin Hoffman again, but I'd take away his Oscar for Kramer vs. Kramer and give it to Roy Scheider for All That Jazz. At least somebody gave him one for Midnight Cowboy, so he has that one.

Ummm, no, Hoffman did NOT get one for MIDNIGHT COWBOY. John Wayne won that year for TRUE GRIT. Hoffman stormed out of the hall in anger after Wayne went up to get his award, the little putz.

Why So Blu? 01-14-16 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12694798)
I think that "Gump" is a "you had to be there" movie. I saw it in theatres the same week as I saw "Pulp Fiction". In retrospect, Pulp is a better movie and has had a longer-lasting effect on film-makng.

But Gump was an uplifting piece, and its special effects were mezmerising.It was universally appealing, and told a really good story. AIDS was still a pretty new, frightening, and mysterious thing, and the movie brought some humanity to it.

For one second, I don't contend that "Pulp" isn't a better film, I just think that "Gump" needs some historical perspective.


Dafuq is you talking about?

Jaymole 01-14-16 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12695046)
Seriously? Gump is one of the most subversive insidious and least uplifting movies ever. It is a hateful, horrible movie with maybe the worst message of any movie i have ever seen. It is evil and I completely hate it. It should be destroyed

I would not destroy it as I don't believe in that way of dealing with media, but I agree that it is a reprehensible movie with a horrible message. I will never forget how angry I became while watching the film in the theater (Hitler would have loved the film by the way).

james2025a 01-14-16 07:19 AM

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A lot already mentioned. I think Mickey Rourke should have won for the Wrestler instead of Sean Penn for Milk. Fassbender should have won best actor for Shame in 2011 instead of Colin Firth for the Kings Speech.

inri222 01-14-16 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12695758)
At that time and place, it was fairly eye-opening to have a lead character, particularly female, suffering from AIDS.

Nothing new there. She was being punished by God for not following the status quo and being a promiscuous hippie slut who hung out with radicals and drug users.

stvn1974 01-14-16 11:10 AM

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Mad Max Fury Road over Spotlight.

Why So Blu? 01-14-16 01:05 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 
More nominations for The Hateful Eight.

inri222 01-14-16 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12696238)
More nominations for The Hateful Eight.

And Sicario.

Why So Blu? 01-14-16 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12696242)
And Sicario.

:thumbsup:


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