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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Brokeback Mountain over Crash
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Three Day Delay
(Post 12694798)
I think that "Gump" is a "you had to be there" movie. I saw it in theatres the same week as I saw "Pulp Fiction". In retrospect, Pulp is a better movie and has had a longer-lasting effect on film-makng.
But Gump was an uplifting piece, and its special effects were mezmerising.It was universally appealing, and told a really good story. AIDS was still a pretty new, frightening, and mysterious thing, and the movie brought some humanity to it. It was frickin' 1994. |
Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
:lol:
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by stvn1974
(Post 12695449)
Julia Roberts having an Oscar makes them immediately irrelevant but her winning over Ellyn Burstyn makes it even worse.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Philadelphia was released one year earlier, and covered AIDS much more than Forrest Gump.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
(Post 12695467)
You did not like Where the Truth Lies?
Originally Posted by OldBoy
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i forgot Stallone was up for Cop Land...yeah do-over!
Originally Posted by dom56
(Post 12694713)
Take away Dustin Hoffman's Oscar for Rainman and give it to Gene Hackman for Mississippi Burning. Gene got robbed IMO.
Originally Posted by johnnysd
(Post 12695046)
Seriously? Gump is one of the most subversive insidious and least uplifting movies ever. It is a hateful, horrible movie with maybe the worst message of any movie i have ever seen. It is evil and I completely hate it. It should be destroyed
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Brack
(Post 12695738)
Philadelphia was released one year earlier, and covered AIDS much more than Forrest Gump.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Three Day Delay
(Post 12695747)
Certainly. But it's not like Philadelphia wrapped it up and put it away.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Brack
(Post 12695748)
I love Forest Gump, but that part of the movie is very minor at best.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Three Day Delay
(Post 12695752)
We experienced the movie differently.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Brack
(Post 12695753)
It's like the last 10 minutes of the movie, so yep, I agree.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Three Day Delay
(Post 12695756)
Is that not part of the movie? Did the director just say "fuck it" in the last ten minutes?
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Brack
(Post 12695757)
Not saying that at all, but to say that AIDS was a major part of the film is reaching.
At that time and place, it was fairly eye-opening to have a lead character, particularly female, suffering from AIDS. It was not ground-breaking, but it was certainly a surprise. |
Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by TheBang
(Post 12695568)
Brokeback Mountain over Crash
Ralph Fiennes for Schindler's List over Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive. I hate to pick on Dustin Hoffman again, but I'd take away his Oscar for Kramer vs. Kramer and give it to Roy Scheider for All That Jazz. At least somebody gave him one for Midnight Cowboy, so he has that one. |
Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Three Day Delay
(Post 12695758)
I agree. It was not a major theme for the movie.
At that time and place, it was fairly eye-opening to have a lead character, particularly female, suffering from AIDS. It was not ground-breaking, but it was certainly a surprise. |
Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Brack
(Post 12695763)
Just a few posts you disagreed that it was a minor part of the movie. Now it is. I'm not arguing that the film didn't touch on it, but you have a movie that came out the previous year, with the same lead actor, that actually focused on AIDS quite a bit, where Jenny's death echoed Terms of Endearment more than anything else.
I said "Gump was an uplifting piece, and its special effects were mezmerising. It was universally appealing, and told a really good story. AIDS was still a pretty new, frightening, and mysterious thing, and the movie brought some humanity to it." Jenny certainly echoed Terms of Endearment. That's a quality observation, which I had never thought of before. |
Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Drexl
(Post 12695760)
There it is, finally. :thumbsup:
Ralph Fiennes for Schindler's List over Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive. I hate to pick on Dustin Hoffman again, but I'd take away his Oscar for Kramer vs. Kramer and give it to Roy Scheider for All That Jazz. At least somebody gave him one for Midnight Cowboy, so he has that one. |
Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Three Day Delay
(Post 12694798)
I think that "Gump" is a "you had to be there" movie. I saw it in theatres the same week as I saw "Pulp Fiction". In retrospect, Pulp is a better movie and has had a longer-lasting effect on film-makng.
But Gump was an uplifting piece, and its special effects were mezmerising.It was universally appealing, and told a really good story. AIDS was still a pretty new, frightening, and mysterious thing, and the movie brought some humanity to it. For one second, I don't contend that "Pulp" isn't a better film, I just think that "Gump" needs some historical perspective. Dafuq is you talking about? |
Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by johnnysd
(Post 12695046)
Seriously? Gump is one of the most subversive insidious and least uplifting movies ever. It is a hateful, horrible movie with maybe the worst message of any movie i have ever seen. It is evil and I completely hate it. It should be destroyed
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
A lot already mentioned. I think Mickey Rourke should have won for the Wrestler instead of Sean Penn for Milk. Fassbender should have won best actor for Shame in 2011 instead of Colin Firth for the Kings Speech.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Three Day Delay
(Post 12695758)
At that time and place, it was fairly eye-opening to have a lead character, particularly female, suffering from AIDS.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Mad Max Fury Road over Spotlight.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
More nominations for The Hateful Eight.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
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More nominations for The Hateful Eight.
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Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
Originally Posted by inri222
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And Sicario.
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