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Jaymole 01-13-16 07:44 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 
There are way, way too many instances of films, actors, etc winning over more deserving ones. Case in point is 1976, when all 4 of the other nominees for best picture deserved to win over Rocky.

Also, I just wanted to say that Annie Hall winning over Star Wars was both gratifying and frustrating. Gratifying because it deserved the award over Star Wars. Frustrating, because since then, (and for the rest of my life), Star Wars fans will be whining about it Ad nauseam.

JeffTheAlpaca 01-13-16 08:09 AM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 
Usual Suspects over Braveheart in 1995?

Toy Story should have gotten a Oscar nom but that was probably ahead of its time where animated movies are now treated with a lot more respect when it comes to awards.

Joan Allen (Nixon) should have won over Mira Sorvino (A Might Aphrodite)

Nic Cage won but Anthony Hopkins as Nixon would have been a good choice.

Maybe Cage should give up his Oscar since except for a couple of big blockbusters his career as a serious actor took a nosedive.

Coral 01-13-16 08:51 AM

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Agree with these:


Originally Posted by Chadm (Post 12694788)
Best Director: Fedrico Fellini for 8 1/2 over Tony Richardson for Tom Jones

Best Director: Ingmar Bergman for Fanny & Alexander over James L Brooks for Terms of Endearment.

Best Picture: Fargo over The English Patient.

Best Picture: The Thin Red Line over Shakespeare In Love

Best Supporting Actor: Tom Cruise for Magnolia over Michael Caine for Cider House Rules.

Best Actress: Ellen Burstyn for Requiem for a Dream over Julia Roberts for Erin Brockovich.


Originally Posted by Defiant1 (Post 12694555)
Take away Gwyneth Paltrow's Oscar for Shakespeare in Love and give it to Cate Blanchett for Elizabeth.


Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 12694574)
Take away Peter Jackson's Oscar for Return of the King and give it to Fernando Meirelles for City of God.


Also add:

The Sweet Hereafter getting nominated/winning for Best Picture over Titanic
Ian Holm (The Sweet Hereafter) getting nominated and winning over Jack Nicholson (As Good As It Gets)

EddieMoney 01-13-16 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 12694865)
Maybe Cageshould give up his Oscar since except for a couple of big blockbusters his career as a serious actor took a nosedive.

I would argue that he should have been nominated a few years ago for "Joe."

bluetoast 01-13-16 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 12694865)
Toy Story should have gotten a Oscar nom but that was probably ahead of its time where animated movies are now treated with a lot more respect when it comes to awards.

It got nominated for best original screenplay, and Babe (not exactly animated, but not typical) was nominated for Best Picture that year. Beauty and the Beast was a BP nom a few years prior.

If anything, relegating animation to their own category seems to be putting them at the kid's table. Although Up and Toy Story 3 did get BP noms (when there were 8+ nominees though)

inri222 01-13-16 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 12694887)
The Sweet Hereafter getting nominated/winning for Best Picture over Titanic
Ian Holm (The Sweet Hereafter) getting nominated and winning over Jack Nicholson (As Good As It Gets)

:up::up::up:

EddieMoney 01-13-16 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12694899)
:up::up::up:

Wow, yeah. That was an amazing film. Too bad Egoyan has never come remotely close to that level again.

inri222 01-13-16 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieMoney (Post 12694905)
Wow, yeah. That was an amazing film. Too bad Egoyan has never come remotely close to that level again.

He was on a roll in the 90's and peaked with TSH. His next film Felicia's Journey was good, but after that it's downhill.

EddieMoney 01-13-16 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12694915)
He was on a roll in the 90's and peaked with TSH. His next film Felicia's Journey was good, but after that it's downhill.

I always thought "Exotica" was Oscar-worthy as well.

Three Day Delay 01-13-16 10:22 AM

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Fanny and Alexander is really a non-starter, much like Dekalog or Shoah. It wasn't orginally presented in film format.

All of those three are brilliant pieces, and worthy of view.but isn;t that like saying Breaking Bad is a great film piece, if you ignore the fact it was a TV show?

inri222 01-13-16 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12694955)
Breaking Bad is a great film piece, if you ignore the fact it was a TV show?

Only if you can come up with a 2.5 hour condensed version and give it a theatrical run.

johnnysd 01-13-16 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Three Day Delay (Post 12694798)
I think that "Gump" is a "you had to be there" movie. I saw it in theatres the same week as I saw "Pulp Fiction". In retrospect, Pulp is a better movie and has had a longer-lasting effect on film-makng.

But Gump was an uplifting piece, and its special effects were mezmerising.It was universally appealing, and told a really good story. AIDS was still a pretty new, frightening, and mysterious thing, and the movie brought some humanity to it.

For one second, I don't contend that "Pulp" isn't a better film, I just think that "Gump" needs some historical perspective.

Seriously? Gump is one of the most subversive insidious and least uplifting movies ever. It is a hateful, horrible movie with maybe the worst message of any movie i have ever seen. It is evil and I completely hate it. It should be destroyed

Three Day Delay 01-13-16 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12695046)
Seriously? Gump is one of the most subversive insidious and least uplifting movies ever. It us a hateful, horrible movie with many the worst message of any movie i have ever seen. It is evil and I completely hate it. I should be destroyed

What about the movie is insidious, evil, and hateful? I can't respond until I know your context.

DWilson 01-13-16 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieMoney (Post 12694925)
I always thought "Exotica" was Oscar-worthy as well.

I loved "Exotica" and Egoyan and Egoyan's films then became "Must See"s for me. However, I never enjoyed any of his films to the same degree, and now I don't really even bother with them.

As for "Gump",- years ago my parents wanted to see the film because they'd heard so much about it and I rented it for them; they had a VCR but knew jack about operating it. My mother found the film sad because a good friend had a son "like that" and she just found the whole movie tragic.

JesseCuster 01-13-16 11:45 AM

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1968 take the Oscar for Best Actor from Cliff Robertson for Charley and give it to Peter O'Toole for The Lion in Winter.

tasha99 01-13-16 02:21 PM

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My wish would be for Goodburger to get nominated and win over that crapfest Titanic.

Decker 01-13-16 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyM (Post 12694583)

I'd also give best picture to Reds over Chariots of Fire.

NOW it's fixed.

stvn1974 01-13-16 04:35 PM

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Julia Roberts having an Oscar makes them immediately irrelevant but her winning over Ellyn Burstyn makes it even worse.

JeffTheAlpaca 01-13-16 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EddieMoney (Post 12694905)
Wow, yeah. That was an amazing film. Too bad Egoyan has never come remotely close to that level again.


You did not like Where the Truth Lies?

Ok the reveal at the end was really weird lol.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...truth_lies.jpg


Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 12695449)
Julia Roberts having an Oscar makes them immediately irrelevant but her winning over Ellyn Burstyn makes it even worse.


Maybe Marisa Tomei should have lost the award for My Cousin Vinny but she redeemed herself with the Wrestler a movie she should have gotten a Oscar nomination.

Ash Ketchum 01-13-16 05:03 PM

Re: If the Oscars had a do-over?
 
Sydney Greenstreet in THE MALTESE FALCON over Donald Crisp, HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY

Claude Rains in CASABLANCA over Charles Coburn, THE MORE THE MERRIER

Marjorie Main as Ma Kettle in THE EGG AND I over Celeste Holm, GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT

Peter Falk, Sal Mineo, Telly Savalas, Victor Buono, Nick Adams and Bobby Darin all got nominated for Oscars. How awesome if any of them had won. Jack Palance got nominated twice.

stvn1974 01-13-16 05:04 PM

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Stallone in Cop Land over Jeffrey Rush for whatever the fuck he won it for in 1997.

OldBoy 01-13-16 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 12695473)
Stallone in Cop Land over Jeffrey Rush for whatever the fuck he won it for in 1997.

i forgot Stallone was up for Cop Land...yeah do-over!

Decker 01-13-16 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 12695467)



Maybe Marisa Tomei should have lost the award for My Cousin Vinny but she redeemed herself with the Wrestler a movie she should have gotten a Oscar nomination.

She did get an Oscar nomination for that role - her third one overall.

OldBoy 01-13-16 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 12695506)
She did get an Oscar nomination for that role - her third one overall.

did she also get one for In The Bedroom? i loved that movie. why isn't that on blu?

Decker 01-13-16 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 12695511)
did she also get one for In The Bedroom? i loved that movie. why isn't that on blu?

Yes. So did I. No idea.


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