How long did Yoda train Luke?
12-17-15, 02:05 AM
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She's called Princess Lea a few times but mostly by Han in a mocking fashion in Empire (and in an enduring fashion before being frozen in carbonite), and some people in the Rebel Alliance, but I always thought it was just an honorary title at that point. However, at the end of A New Hope, she places medals on Luke and Han (nothing for Chewbacca, who's standing up there doing his growl, which I can only assume "Hey, what about me!?") like she's still royalty.
12-17-15, 05:45 AM
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Re: How long did Yoda train Luke?
She's called Princess Lea a few times but mostly by Han in a mocking fashion in Empire (and in an enduring fashion before being frozen in carbonite), and some people in the Rebel Alliance, but I always thought it was just an honorary title at that point. However, at the end of A New Hope, she places medals on Luke and Han (nothing for Chewbacca, who's standing up there doing his growl, which I can only assume "Hey, what about me!?") like she's still royalty.
12-17-15, 07:39 AM
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The adoption was a secret, so why treat her differently? And do they still call her Princess Leia in Empire and beyond? I honestly can't remember.
Lucas got way too cutesy with the prequels. In my mind as a kid, it was a rather straightforward storyline to turn Vader bad, and yet he had to introduce all these fan service moments (C3PO created by Anakin, r2d2 being his astromech droid, the clones coming from Jango Fett, Yoda being able to kick butt and then the horrid "romance"). It's a minor miracle that he didn't shoehorn Han or his parents into the prequels somehow.
I, too, had always thought growing up that Luke returned to Dagobah in between movies to train. In fact I think I was corrected in this forum. I mean he had time to go research, collect materials for, and build his own lightsaber, he couldn't go spend some time with Yoda?
Lucas got way too cutesy with the prequels. In my mind as a kid, it was a rather straightforward storyline to turn Vader bad, and yet he had to introduce all these fan service moments (C3PO created by Anakin, r2d2 being his astromech droid, the clones coming from Jango Fett, Yoda being able to kick butt and then the horrid "romance"). It's a minor miracle that he didn't shoehorn Han or his parents into the prequels somehow.
I, too, had always thought growing up that Luke returned to Dagobah in between movies to train. In fact I think I was corrected in this forum. I mean he had time to go research, collect materials for, and build his own lightsaber, he couldn't go spend some time with Yoda?
12-17-15, 07:41 AM
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There's the concept art for Han Solo in Revenge of the Sith.
12-17-15, 08:38 AM
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12-17-15, 08:43 AM
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Re: How long did Yoda train Luke?
The adoption was a secret, so why treat her differently? And do they still call her Princess Leia in Empire and beyond? I honestly can't remember.
Lucas got way too cutesy with the prequels. In my mind as a kid, it was a rather straightforward storyline to turn Vader bad, and yet he had to introduce all these fan service moments (C3PO created by Anakin, r2d2 being his astromech droid, the clones coming from Jango Fett, Yoda being able to kick butt and then the horrid "romance"). It's a minor miracle that he didn't shoehorn Han or his parents into the prequels somehow.
I, too, had always thought growing up that Luke returned to Dagobah in between movies to train. In fact I think I was corrected in this forum. I mean he had time to go research, collect materials for, and build his own lightsaber, he couldn't go spend some time with Yoda?
Lucas got way too cutesy with the prequels. In my mind as a kid, it was a rather straightforward storyline to turn Vader bad, and yet he had to introduce all these fan service moments (C3PO created by Anakin, r2d2 being his astromech droid, the clones coming from Jango Fett, Yoda being able to kick butt and then the horrid "romance"). It's a minor miracle that he didn't shoehorn Han or his parents into the prequels somehow.
I, too, had always thought growing up that Luke returned to Dagobah in between movies to train. In fact I think I was corrected in this forum. I mean he had time to go research, collect materials for, and build his own lightsaber, he couldn't go spend some time with Yoda?
His completion of the training would have been on the third and final visit to Yoda in ROTJ.
12-17-15, 07:53 PM
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All the SE changes and Lucas couldn't change old Anni's eye color or give him his little eye scar?
12-18-15, 01:30 AM
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He probably should have looked like Freddy Kruger after being horribly burned, but maybe the used the Force to heal himself or some medical treatment we were never made aware of.
12-18-15, 02:56 PM
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I don't think they do. At least not at the beginning at Owen's Moisture farm. C3PO is doing a lot of translation early on. R2 never needs translation though, he clearly understands English. You'd think it would be easier to put a chip in R2 to let him speak English than require you to buy a second robot to allow you to communicate with the first.
In fact, why do you need to buy a 5'10" walking robot to translate at all? Wouldn't a smartphone with Google Translate work just as well?
Oh wait, I forgot -- nobody bought him anyway. He was built by a ten year old slave boy who managed to program a robot to communicate with tens of thousands of different computer languages and every spoken tongue.
In fact, why do you need to buy a 5'10" walking robot to translate at all? Wouldn't a smartphone with Google Translate work just as well?
Oh wait, I forgot -- nobody bought him anyway. He was built by a ten year old slave boy who managed to program a robot to communicate with tens of thousands of different computer languages and every spoken tongue.
12-19-15, 08:54 AM
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Special relativity.
The Falcon, with its busted hyperdrive, could have been traveling at sublight speeds, so while only a few days or weeks might have passed for Han and Leia, Luke could have been training with Yoda for months or years.
The gist of special relativity is that the closer you get to the speed of light, the slower time moves for you. (See Interstellar.)
The Falcon, with its busted hyperdrive, could have been traveling at sublight speeds, so while only a few days or weeks might have passed for Han and Leia, Luke could have been training with Yoda for months or years.
The gist of special relativity is that the closer you get to the speed of light, the slower time moves for you. (See Interstellar.)
12-19-15, 09:41 AM
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Maybe TESB needed a training montage sequence like this to make it clearer
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I also think there was about a year between TESB and ROTJ in which Luke continued intense Jedi training on his own. (And Luke may have also returned to train more with Yoda on Dagobah during this time, but the fact that he didn't ask if Vader was his father until the Yoda scene in ROTJ makes that possibility seem unlikely.)
12-19-15, 09:50 AM
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Everytime I hear the montage song there I think of Transformers: The Movie. Sounds like it was by the same people.
12-19-15, 01:26 PM
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Watching ESB and ROTJ the last few days, in ROTJ Luke mentions having a promise to keep before returning to Dagobah, referencing the promise he made to Yoda to return to complete his training. While it's cute to think he might have gone back and forth between the two movies, there doesn't seem to be anything to actually think thats the case.
12-19-15, 02:36 PM
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That would have actually redeemed the Ewoks, to see them soaked with blood ripping apart still-living stormtroopers and imperial officers like a pack of starving hyenas.
12-19-15, 03:50 PM
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12-19-15, 04:43 PM
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Until a review I read recently said it, I didn't realize that name "Ewok" is a kind of remix of the sounds in the name "Wookiee"
WOOKIEE
WOOK IEE
IEE WOOK
IEEWOOK
EWOK
How did I not notice this before?!
WOOKIEE
WOOK IEE
IEE WOOK
IEEWOOK
EWOK
How did I not notice this before?!
12-19-15, 05:08 PM
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The Ewoks were sick little motherfuckers. They were going to eat Han, Luke and Chewy after cooking them alive. They didn't even wait to shave Chewy and take Luke and Han's clothes off.
12-19-15, 06:25 PM
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After 20+ years, I also watched ep. 4-5-6 this week because my nephew wants me to go see the new Star War film next year. And well, huh... Let's face it, when you are no longer amazed by the operatic scope of the spectacle, you notice that, while the story is still engaging, a lot of stuff doesn't make much sense, and some of the dialog/acting is cringe inducing. Heck, I was more entertained by ep. 6, generally viewed as the worst of the 3, than the other 2 because it seemed to fully embrace it's goofiness.
Typical example of films that are more famous because of the impact they had on filmmaking than because of the quality of the actual films.
Another example:
- You'd think that after the first "run" of 3 fighters trying to blow the Death Star got destroyed from behind, and knowing that their fighters can't shoot backwards, they would have adjusted their strategy and, you know, asked for backup to get behind the enemy fighters.
- And when you build a second Death Star, make sure it has a similar design flaw as the first one.
Typical example of films that are more famous because of the impact they had on filmmaking than because of the quality of the actual films.
Another example:
- You'd think that after the first "run" of 3 fighters trying to blow the Death Star got destroyed from behind, and knowing that their fighters can't shoot backwards, they would have adjusted their strategy and, you know, asked for backup to get behind the enemy fighters.
- And when you build a second Death Star, make sure it has a similar design flaw as the first one.
12-19-15, 06:49 PM
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12-21-15, 07:49 AM
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Another example:
- You'd think that after the first "run" of 3 fighters trying to blow the Death Star got destroyed from behind, and knowing that their fighters can't shoot backwards, they would have adjusted their strategy and, you know, asked for backup to get behind the enemy fighters.
- You'd think that after the first "run" of 3 fighters trying to blow the Death Star got destroyed from behind, and knowing that their fighters can't shoot backwards, they would have adjusted their strategy and, you know, asked for backup to get behind the enemy fighters.
), it was defensively vulnerable. And that's why they had an energy shield generator on the forest moon of Endor to protect it during construction.(Although they should've had more than just 1 energy shield station on the Moon - a backup station would've been a good idea
)