Who said I didn't like it? Hell, I haven't even seen it yet

I plan to finally go this week and I have a new hope I will enjoy it.


FWIW My friend who had been super amped to see this and had full faith in Abrams and Kasden to deliver, saw it yesterday and his comment was "good, not great" and that despite that he still left the theater with a smile on his face.
That just doesn't sound to me like a film that will wear well over the long haul, after the giddy novelty of newness hs worn off.
But of course, I could be wrong. I thought Guardians Of The Galaxy was derivative as hell at the theater and way overpraised, and was surprised to find I enjoy more and even admire it now with the passage of time.

Would be nice if that were the same case here.

The only difference might be is that I actually hadn't seen the specific plot points in GotG before because that universe was new. Here I'm expecting to see a pretty much straight up retread of a film I already like. That might make a difference.

So you're saying you're not a good gauge to read a film?

I think I'm saying that the buzz and hype creates an atmosphere that colors/clouds perception, which of course is nothing anyone here doesn't already know.

Also that true quality will out over time.

And that Star Wars fans are still the easiest lays in the universe.

I don't get affected by hype and buzz in experiencing a film. I get the anticipation... the want for it. But once i'm in that seat....it's a clean slate for me.

And there goes all validity of whatever you've been posting.

Then again I doubt your opinion would be any different since you've already decided what it'll be without having seen it.

I don't expect to gushingly love it the way so many here seem to because the stunning lack of originality- when it had the entire universe wide open to explore- seems to me like it will be a large limiting factor.

I still hope to enjoy it though. It may surprise you, but I'm not laying down $10+ for something I expect I will dislike in total, just so I can bitch about it here.

And if I find my preconceptions about it have been off base or over-emphasized, I'll say it.

I wish we had upvote or like buttons on here. But I guess I can only just quote and say, "This".

If someone has the opinion that the film is a remake, fine. But at least see the movie before posting 10-paragraph "reviews" bashing it.

I liked the movie. Unlike my friends, I don't feel the need to see it again, let alone five or six times.

Just saw it this morning. Not much to add, but I will say it far surpasses the prequels and rivals the best of the originals for entertainment value. Love Daisy Ridley.

you tell me.
Give me some warning here. just how many riffs/ points of similarity from the earlier films should I expect?
Another quasi death star with stolen battle plans hidden in a droid stranded on a desert planet who comes into contact with a young person who isn't yet aware of their great destiny, all while an evil black clad and helmeted villain scours the universe, torturing people to locate the plans before we get a final climactic spaceship and ground battle until the station goes kablooey?

If that is not the general broad strokes of the film, then I will be - sincerely- even more eager to see it now.

how crowded was it?

And even in the negative comments I've seen, I've seen nothing but good things expressed about the new players.
I like a good female protagonist and was looking forward to Ridley especially.

You're just rehashing other people's opinions. Others have written the same thing as you over and over and over (sand planet/orphan/droid/yada yada yada). And while I don't agree with them, at least they've seen it. Again, if you see it and feel it is a remake, that's fine. But see it.

I personally don't see it as a remake, although it borrows heavily from episode IV (and a little from VI). I get why Abrams went that route, and it worked. I still enjoyed it quite a bit, and look forward to the future direction and characters.

I rewatched Ep 1 last night to see if it was as bad as I remembered, and good lord it was, and that was something that really stood out. Darth Maul was cool as hell, and they just wasted him. Meanwhile, everyone they focused but the awful Jar Jar seemed to be on downers.

It also made me appreciate how well the cast of The Force Awakens clicked together. In Ep. 1, people who have known each other for years still seemed like strangers.

Rewatched it yesterday, splurged on 3D out of curiosity. Only a few of the scenes really stood out in 3D.

But the movie itself was a little more enjoyable now that the newness isn't a thing. Kylo and Leia both come across better and the scene with Han and Kylo hits a little harder.

I think this will stand the test of time and will be even better when the new trilogy is completed.

Believe it or not, after the initial flurry of reviews I have tried to avoid discussions of the film. That ANH synopsis is based off a couple plot points I saw in one review and everything else is easily and blatantly implied in the marketing.

I don't discount that the film can still be entertaining. That point doesn't seem to be getting across.

Wow, you really didn't like the movie very much did you.

Oh....k. Wait, what?

Yes, that is the basic structure. But in this version, you see completely different characters going through a similar situation. There is no one-to-one analog of Luke, Han and Leia from the OT. If you think Rey is like Luke, I'd point to the fact that Luke is a whiny little bitch from moment one whereas Rey is a badass who can more than handle herself. That continues with Finn, Poe, Ren and everyone else. Hell, BB-8 is pretty different from R2 as well (he's more of a kid whereas R2 seemed like an adult who had been through some shit). Even Han is different.

If you want to just pick out the basic locations and say IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME then more power to you. But across the board, every character is coming at this from a different perspective than the characters were in A New Hope and that shows. Chewbacca even gets some growth here as a character.

And BTW, forming such a definitive opinion on a movie BEFORE you see it is really fucking weak.

It does remake elements from SW. Remind what it took from ESB unless you mean that lightsaber pull... which I guess you can say it is from.

It is something worth criticizing about it.

I GET why they went that route. It's too safe for it's own good. Luckily.. it also brings in a lot more of its own nature. Which is great.

Though you could argue that a Black male and White Female as leads for a very genre film is a massive break from the norm. And it is to a point. But it also shouldn't have to be. That's shitty culture mentality for ya. Yay us.

There's just no way out of it. It takes very SW elements and brings them up again as a reintroduction to the new within the continuity. It just can't not be seen. I enjoyed it a good bunch and await them to actually go into a much more original route w/ VIII... but VII is what it is. And that's a somewhat big knock to it for me. Not big enough to make it bad, it isn't. It's good. But big enough to be a bit saddened that they didn't risk more w/ this one.

won't post another word on the subject till I actually see.

I will try to refrain from hyperbole (and snark and sarcasm) when I do post any comments.

You really shouldn't criticize much of the narrative till you actually see it. Cuz then.. you're just kind of not really forming a concrete statement and forming just a lot of words w/o sand to them.

This.

Very true. It's kind of the same feeling I got when I came out of "Return of the Jedi". Except, in this case, it's a stronger film. Not risk-taking, but not really a retread, either.

It was a 9:40 am show in 2D. there 3D and 3D IMAX shows that started at 9:00 and 9:30. It was pretty crowded but nearly a sell-out

I found it disappointing. It was boring. It felt like a xerox of the original trilogy which makes it better than the second trilogy. I'm a little surprised there's still traditional storm troopers.

Must've liked something. You have it 3/5 stars.