Or Thor Ragnarok...I loved Wonder Woman but we are just past the mid-point of the year and there are a lot of fun films in the pipeline.

I'm looking forward to kick ass Atomic Blonde...

This is a box office thread. Thor Ragnarok hasn't opened yet. Once it does, numbers for it can be compared with the other comic book movies of 2017 as well as the previous two Thor movies.

In the meantime, what about Thor 3 would you like to talk about? There's no tracking for it since its still another 4 months until its release... I suppose we can talk about (in terms of its box office) whether it was smart to open it two weeks before Justice League...

I found the release date for the second Thor kind of dumb, though it did have a higher overall gross compare the first entry. November is very competitive, and unless you're Bond or Harry Potter, it's a gamble. Way too soon before a new DC release, especially since it's Justice League. Thor is so far not growing enough in audience like Cap has with each new movie outperforming the last (Civil War was a bit of a cheat since Iron Man was just as important as Cap, and was almost an Avengers movie minus Hulk and Thor). It's very likely that Marvel is somewhat content with reaching only so high as grosses are concerned, though the real marketing push is still months away, the trailers so far make it look fun, similar to GotG. Plus I think the news of it being highly connected with Infinty Wars could also benefit.

I just assumed he brought it up because you mentioned Star Wars as something to talk about at the end of the year

I think it'll probably do well overseas. The last one took in $438M (up from $268M for the first one). And in fairness, it should make a pretty coin those first two weeks, just won't have the benefit of the strong legs (or as strong) that usually comes from November/December releases.

I would assume with it co-starring The Hulk, Thor 3 should have a stronger OW than Doctor Strange (which opened 11/4 last year). DS had an $85M OW, have to think Thor 3 should get close to $100M OW.

Well, I brought up Star Wars because of Mondo Kane thinking we'll (or at least me) will still be discussing WW come December.

All this started over snarky posts (by myself and MK)

But I get it, just that WW right now is the story of the summer that we likely won't see again, its sequel can't sustain this kind of run (at least one wouldn't think so).

Oh, there is one box office I am curious about coming up: Atomic Blonde.

TW	LW	Title (click to view)	Studio	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theater Count / Change		Average	Total Gross	Budget*	Week #
1	1	Dunkirk	WB	$28,130,000	-44.3%	3,748	+28	$7,505	$102,836,220	$100	2
2	N	The Emoji Movie	Sony	$25,650,000	-	4,075	-	$6,294	$25,650,000	$50	1
3	2	Girls Trip	Uni.	$20,085,540	-35.6%	2,648	+57	$7,585	$65,524,760	$19	2
4	N	Atomic Blonde	Focus	$18,554,000	-	3,304	-	$5,616	$18,554,000	$30	1
5	3	Spider-Man: Homecoming	Sony	$13,450,000	-39.3%	3,625	-505	$3,710	$278,356,805	$175	4
6	4	War for the Planet of the Apes	Fox	$10,375,000	-50.3%	3,374	-726	$3,075	$118,687,629	$150	3
7	6	Despicable Me 3	Uni.	$7,725,895	-40.6%	3,030	-495	$2,550	$230,425,800	$80	5
8	5	Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets	STX	$6,800,000	-60.0%	3,553	-	$1,914	$30,626,147	$177.2	2
9	7	Baby Driver	TriS	$4,050,000	-33.3%	1,961	-542	$2,065	$92,046,188	$34	5
10	9	Wonder Woman	WB	$3,540,000	-23.2%	1,651	-320	$2,144	$395,443,706	$149	9
11	8	The Big Sick	LGF	$3,375,000	-32.6%	1,589	-1,008	$2,124	$30,419,654	-	6
12	11	Cars 3	BV	$1,014,000	-47.2%	861	-433	$1,178	$146,442,093	-	7

Great holds for all except Apes and Valerian. Girls Trip the latest surprise of the summer.

Looks like Blonde will fade out pretty fast.

Its OW was better than John Wick ($14M) but reviews seem to be more on the tepid side, albeit fairly close (6.2/10 avg critic score for AB, 6.9/10 for JW; 3.6/5 for AB, 3.9/5 for JW amongst audiences on RT).

However, it's hard to see it breaking out, but OTOH, competition is rather weak now so it could see better than average holds. Next week has The Dark Tower and Kidnap, and I don't see the former getting more than a $20-25M OW, Kidnap not even $10M.

Kidnap is actually getting a theatrical release? Wow

No kidding. I've seen a few TV spots and I have to chuckle when they do the "Marco... Polo" lines. Oooh tension!

Kidnap was filmed 3 years ago and has been sitting on the shelf for awhile.

It was already released in some foreign markets and i think is already on DVD and BD is some of those territories.

Box Office Guru thinks otherwise:

I'm hoping Baby Driver cracks $100m. Storyline wasnt the most original but still the most fun movie I've seen this year

If it continues to drop only 30-35%, it should.

Kind of shocked at how poor Apes is doing.

To be fair, not sure we've seen back-to-back-to-back movies (Spider-Man/Apes/Dunkirk) scoring 90%+ on RT. Dunkirk has the benefit of not only getting great reviews, but zero competition in its second weekend. One wonders if Fox should've opened Apes this upcoming weekend instead.

August has nothing going on which is why Suicide Squad did as well as it did last year.

Apes just had tremendously poor advertising, imho.

If you've seen the 1st 2 Planet of the Apes movies, I don't see why you wouldn't want to see the final movie of the trilogy.

The trailers/ads aren't going to draw some random person who hasn't seen the 1st 2 movies.

I think Apes was stuck facing some tough competition and audiences still catching up on movies from earlier in the summer that are still in theatrical run.

But going out of your way to see it in theaters actually does require some sort of motivation. The advertising for it made it look like more of the same and something you could just get to when you get to.

TW	LW	Title (click to view)	Studio	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theater Count / Change		Average	Total Gross	Budget*	Week #
1	N	The Dark Tower	Sony	$19,500,000	-	3,451	-	$5,651	$19,500,000	$60	1
2	1	Dunkirk	WB	$17,600,000	-33.9%	4,014	+266	$4,385	$133,555,738	$100	3
3	2	The Emoji Movie	Sony	$12,350,000	-49.7%	4,075	-	$3,031	$49,451,704	$50	2
4	3	Girls Trip	Uni.	$11,418,700	-41.9%	2,582	-66	$4,422	$85,443,720	$19	3
5	N	Kidnap (2017)	Aviron	$10,210,000	-	2,378	-	$4,294	$10,210,000	-	1
6	5	Spider-Man: Homecoming	Sony	$8,800,000	-33.6%	3,116	-509	$2,824	$294,907,776	$175	5
7	4	Atomic Blonde	Focus	$8,244,930	-54.9%	3,326	+22	$2,479	$34,125,305	$30	2
8	16	Detroit	Annapurna	$7,251,000	+1,970.6%	3,007	+2,987	$2,411	$7,766,482	$34	2
9	6	War for the Planet of the Apes	Fox	$6,000,000	-42.7%	2,704	-670	$2,219	$130,280,255	$150	4
10	7	Despicable Me 3	Uni.	$5,288,640	-30.3%	2,445	-585	$2,163	$240,779,550	$80	6
11	9	Baby Driver	TriS	$2,550,000	-35.8%	1,424	-537	$1,791	$97,050,930	$34	6
12	8	Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets	STX	$2,360,000	-62.9%	1,795	-1,758	$1,315	$36,101,883	$177.2	3
13	10	Wonder Woman	WB	$2,360,000	-29.4%	1,307	-344	$1,806	$399,506,079	$149	10
14	11	The Big Sick	LGF	$2,200,000	-30.8%	1,005	-584	$2,189	$33,964,428	-	7
15	28	An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power	Par.	$900,000	+621.0%	180	+176	$5,000	$1,052,371	-	2

Really surprised by Kidnap for how long its been sitting on shelves.