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Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
I think that Megan and David Ellison have a good grip on what's good and what's not. If they're going to make another movie, three years is enough time. If the rights shift, there's no reason for the franchise to end in Cameron's hands.
They just have to figure out something innovative. That's what the Terminator movies stand for. They opened up the whole multi-timeline time-travel-as-warefare bit. They could create a really frenetic experience from that. They kept that relatively disciplined in Genisys.
They just have to figure out something innovative. That's what the Terminator movies stand for. They opened up the whole multi-timeline time-travel-as-warefare bit. They could create a really frenetic experience from that. They kept that relatively disciplined in Genisys.
I've yet to see T5. Will see it at some point. But at the same time.... the franchise hasn't really done anything with itself since T2. T1 and T2. JUST as films, are films that needed to be created. They pushed the medium, among others, into new realms of imagination and technology. They had to exist to put us where we are now, take that for how you may.
The TV show didn't do anything. T3 and T4, while enjoyable to some... could not have existed and we'd be in almost the same vortex of the property to where we are now. The Terminator franchise so far has yet a reason to exist. It hasn't had any growth of imagination at all. It hasn't pushed the industry in any way. What's the point to keep making anything Terminator? Besides the money the franchise is still remembered as being this wonderfully impactful game changer... it doesn't seem it is like that anymore. James Cameron was the only one to care in doing any of that. Give it to a production team that will push the property to new boundaries. A team that hopefully give you a critical and financial edge. Those two mean so much when they're together. They need to value the property and make it groundbreaking again. It hasn't been that since T2. That's sad as fuck. And a grand testament to James Cameron. The more they fail the more it shows how fucking great Cameron was compared to anyone else.
I love Arnold. He's been on a nice rise lately. Good for him. I actually care to see more of him in non action roles since Maggie was a nice change and pushed him as an actor.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
Even thought the entire timeline is scrambled to death I liked this one more then the last one. Not sure where they will go if they make more. They need something else other then just stopping Skynet as that is going or has gotten a bit old by now.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
I was pretty game to see the future war and seeing John send Reese into the past, him sending a T-800 to stop the T-1000, etc. I was kind of hoping we would get that from T4 onward but... it didn't even start right. Good action film not a good a Terminator film.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
I liked the story line, but Kyle Reese in the previous films was never a meat head, spewing banal quips that weren't engaging, or funny, and the constant bad melodrama between him and a too young Sarah Connor, really hindered me from enjoying the film. I hated everything about Kyle Reese, the actor, the performance, his dialogue... When Arnold was on screen it was great... I'll never revisit it, I'd say it is worse than 3 & 4...
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
Could anyone imagine Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney replacing Michael Beihn and Linda Hamilton in a shot-for-shot remake of T1?
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
Well T1 Hamilton possibly. Not Courtney though... that man is a very poor actor compared to Biehn. A lot of things get overlooked in that one but Biehn never gets enough love. He's on all cylinders. You feel his stress, his pressure, and his fear so goddamn well. All of that damn near oozes into paranoia but he keeps it in check. Reese wasn't some wildly fit guy. He was scrappy but could take a hit but not w/o being in pain about it. He moved on but you never knew for how long he had it in him.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
A lot of things get overlooked in that one but Biehn never gets enough love. He's on all cylinders. You feel his stress, his pressure, and his fear so goddamn well. All of that damn near oozes into paranoia but he keeps it in check. Reese wasn't some wildly fit guy. He was scrappy but could take a hit but not w/o being in pain about it. He moved on but you never knew for how long he had it in him.
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It's easy to forget now that the Terminator has lapsed into "talk to the hand" self-parody just how scary and nightmarish the original film was. And given how bloated Cameron films have become, it's easy to forget how lean and raw the first movie is. It really feels very different than the rest of his films, more stripped down.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
Well T1 Hamilton possibly. Not Courtney though... that man is a very poor actor compared to Biehn. A lot of things get overlooked in that one but Biehn never gets enough love. He's on all cylinders. You feel his stress, his pressure, and his fear so goddamn well. All of that damn near oozes into paranoia but he keeps it in check. Reese wasn't some wildly fit guy. He was scrappy but could take a hit but not w/o being in pain about it. He moved on but you never knew for how long he had it in him.

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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
It's easy to forget now that the Terminator has lapsed into "talk to the hand" self-parody just how scary and nightmarish the original film was. And given how bloated Cameron films have become, it's easy to forget how lean and raw the first movie is. It really feels very different than the rest of his films, more stripped down.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
I liked it. The whole family did. The action is very good and the plot is fairly clever. If you like the first two Terminator movies then you'd probably like this one. It isn't as good as either of them, but it's not all that far off, either.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
It's easy to forget now that the Terminator has lapsed into "talk to the hand" self-parody just how scary and nightmarish the original film was. And given how bloated Cameron films have become, it's easy to forget how lean and raw the first movie is. It really feels very different than the rest of his films, more stripped down.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
Right but did it actually do anything that makes its existence worth value? Nothing after Cameron was on it has mattered. If the show or the sequels after didn't exist... would it change anything? No. We'd still be where we are... just w/o Terminator.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
Not Courtney though... that man is a very poor actor compared to Biehn. A lot of things get overlooked in that one but Biehn never gets enough love. He's on all cylinders. You feel his stress, his pressure, and his fear so goddamn well. All of that damn near oozes into paranoia but he keeps it in check. Reese wasn't some wildly fit guy. He was scrappy but could take a hit but not w/o being in pain about it. He moved on but you never knew for how long he had it in him.
It's easy to forget now that the Terminator has lapsed into "talk to the hand" self-parody just how scary and nightmarish the original film was. And given how bloated Cameron films have become, it's easy to forget how lean and raw the first movie is. It really feels very different than the rest of his films, more stripped down.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
I found this blurb about how the financing worked for this sequel:
Since Paramount is only paying 1/3 of the cost, looks like the key to another sequel will lay in the hands of the Ellisons since they paid 66% of it's costs. I saw Megan Ellison actually bought the rights for $20M.
The rights to the series go back to James Cameron in 2019, so they may only have time to make 1 more movie if they decide to do it.
Cameron stupidly sold the rights off for $1 so that he could direct the 1st movie.
http://www.torontosun.com/entertainm.../12192301.html
he said in 2009 that he's done with the series.
Since Paramount is only paying 1/3 of the cost, looks like the key to another sequel will lay in the hands of the Ellisons since they paid 66% of it's costs. I saw Megan Ellison actually bought the rights for $20M.
The rights to the series go back to James Cameron in 2019, so they may only have time to make 1 more movie if they decide to do it.
Cameron stupidly sold the rights off for $1 so that he could direct the 1st movie.
http://www.torontosun.com/entertainm.../12192301.html
he said in 2009 that he's done with the series.
It reminds me of how Stallone passed on a large fee to sell the script to "Rocky" and instead took a low salary to star in it.
Add me to the group that really enjoyed the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Wish we could've gotten a third season at least.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
Honestly, that was a pretty good investment by Cameron as much as it might pain him and us in hindsight, if one assumes he would've had to have waited years and years to get his crack at directing something worthwhile. The first Terminator probably wouldn't have worked as well or at all without his direction, so it's not like he would've become a hot property just by writing the screenplay.
It reminds me of how Stallone passed on a large fee to sell the script to "Rocky" and instead took a low salary to star in it.
Add me to the group that really enjoyed the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Wish we could've gotten a third season at least.
It reminds me of how Stallone passed on a large fee to sell the script to "Rocky" and instead took a low salary to star in it.
Add me to the group that really enjoyed the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Wish we could've gotten a third season at least.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
So, if you want completely humor-free Terminator films watch T1 or T4.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
T2 worked on all cylinders. T3 isn't worth existing...nor is any other Terminator property after T2.
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Re: Terminator: Genisys (2015) -- S: Schwarzenegger -- The Reviews Thread
The biggest problem with the Terminator universe is that it all revolves around a handful of events and characters...there's really no way to expand it...you just have to keep providing new twists on the timeline.






















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