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Old 10-27-15 | 02:12 AM
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Speaking as a fan of the franchise, it was a fun ride.
Thank you. I am a fan of the franchise so that's a bit more assuring.
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I've seen them all theatrically and I'd rank this probably as one of the worst of the franchise. Better than 4, but on par with 2 and Marked Ones.

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What happened with adult Katie and the remainder of the witches we saw at the end of 4? How did Hunter end up in 1992? Why does the time travel make no sense?
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Am I the only one who thinks 2 is the best?
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I've seen them all theatrically and I'd rank this probably as one of the worst of the franchise. Better than 4, but on par with 2 and Marked Ones.

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What happened with adult Katie and the remainder of the witches we saw at the end of 4? How did Hunter end up in 1992? Why does the time travel make no sense?
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Katie (at least adult Katie) is a pawn of the coven (The Midwives). The remainder of the women you see at the end of PA4 are also pawns meant to do the coven's bidding. Because the Midwives are only there to serve their demon masters, they need people in the real world that can help push their agenda forward. Child Katie is more of use to them than her adult counterpart, as witnessed in the 'psychic sessions.' Hunter ends up in 1992 via the doorway in 'The Marked Ones' as it allows a person to travel to 'a place of great evil.' The gap in between PA2 and PA4 was needed so that Hunter was old enough to fulfill his role in their agenda (giving the demon 'Tobey' a flesh body.
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I've seen them all theatrically and I'd rank this probably as one of the worst of the franchise. Better than 4, but on par with 2 and Marked Ones.

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What happened with adult Katie and the remainder of the witches we saw at the end of 4? How did Hunter end up in 1992? Why does the time travel make no sense?
Along with
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Katie's son in part 4


How many unanswered questions were there? This movie pissed me off so much. If it wasn't the end, this would probably be a decent film. But the end of the franchise, big FU to the fans. This and the 4th were the worst.
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Along with
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How many unanswered questions were there? This movie pissed me off so much. If it wasn't the end, this would probably be a decent film. But the end of the franchise, big FU to the fans. This and the 4th were the worst.
Katie passed Hunter off as her son in 4.

There really wasn't a sense of closure in this as say Saw 3D.
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Just out of curiosity and without spoiling too much...does the film ever go into what the symbol means (the triangle with the circle inside of it)?? I tried looking it up online but can't seem to find much. I'm under the assumption it's some masonic cult symbol commonly found and used in hollywood (and why is the all seeing eye everywhere in film and music anyway??).

A lot of people have been saying it's actually a real symbol used by a cult of witches back in the 30's but I couldn't find any solid evidence on that.

Just wanted to know if we ever get answers on that as well.
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Re: Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension (2015, Plotkin)

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Just out of curiosity and without spoiling too much...does the film ever go into what the symbol means (the triangle with the circle inside of it)?? I tried looking it up online but can't seem to find much. I'm under the assumption it's some masonic cult symbol commonly found and used in hollywood (and why is the all seeing eye everywhere in film and music anyway??).

A lot of people have been saying it's actually a real symbol used by a cult of witches back in the 30's but I couldn't find any solid evidence on that.

Just wanted to know if we ever get answers on that as well.
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that was covered in The Marked Ones as seen here skip to 3:00
this might help too
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-...-triangle-mean
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Katie passed Hunter off as her son in 4.

There really wasn't a sense of closure in this as say Saw 3D.
It wasn't Hunter, it was another kid. Hunter was the adopted kid living with the family. Katie had another kid that was her "son". Saw just pissed me off as Dr. Gordon wasn't supposed to be that guy, per the commentary by the original creators.
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It wasn't Hunter, it was another kid. Hunter was the adopted kid living with the family. Katie had another kid that was her "son". Saw just pissed me off as Dr. Gordon wasn't supposed to be that guy, per the commentary by the original creators.
Did you watch 4?

Based upon Ghost Dimension, there's a brief line of dialogue that mentioned the death of a family in Henderson, NV. I assume that Alex and her younger brother were killed at the end of 4. Katie and Hunter/Robbie lived next door to Alex's family and the family brought in Hunter when Katie became "ill."
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
Did you watch 4?

Based upon Ghost Dimension, there's a brief line of dialogue that mentioned the death of a family in Henderson, NV. I assume that Alex and her younger brother were killed at the end of 4. Katie and Hunter/Robbie lived next door to Alex's family and the family brought in Hunter when Katie became "ill."
I was pretty sure that 4 heavily implied that the family's kid (Wyatt) was Hunter. They mention that he is adopted and at one point he says his real name was Hunter.

Also, Robbie disappears with no explanation part way through the movie and at the end Katie comes and takes Wyatt away, back to her home with all the witches.

Yes, it makes no sense that Katie would kill her sister's family, kidnap Hunter because she needs him for some prophecy...and then give him up for adoption only to replace him with another kid (for the sole reason of providing a red herring for the audience) and then kill Hunter's adopted family and take him back.

...That's what the movie seemed to suggest to me though.

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that was covered in The Marked Ones as seen here skip to 3:00
this might help too
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-...-triangle-mean
Shit, forgot about that - thanks.
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I was pretty sure that 4 heavily implied that the family's kid (Wyatt) was Hunter. They mention that he is adopted and at one point he says his real name was Hunter.

Also, Robbie disappears with no explanation part way through the movie and at the end Katie comes and takes Wyatt away, back to her home with all the witches.

Yes, it makes no sense that Katie would kill her sister's family, kidnap Hunter because she needs him for some prophecy...and then give him up for adoption only to replace him with another kid (for the sole reason of providing a red herring for the audience) and then kill Hunter's adopted family and take him back.

...That's what the movie seemed to suggest to me though.
Thank you. Previous poster must NOT have watched part 4. Wyatt was Hunter, who Katie dropped off and had adopted for some reason (reason never explained at all). There was Robbie (Katie's "son" for all purposes related to part 4) who just vanished at the end of Part 4 and never made mention of in the new one. What was the whole point of Robbie? To have a friend for Wyatt/Hunter? Didn't they also have the same birthday (not 100% sure on that). So yeah, lots of unanswered questions in the new one. Hunter is NOT Robbie. In fact, had Matthew Chmiel watched Ghost Dimension, he would have seen the picture and video of Wyatt/HUNTER in some of that doctor's witchcraft (which never even explained that doctor as he just came into this film and it seems strange since this was an all women cult). But no mention of Robbie at all who was not killed.
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Thank you. Previous poster must NOT have watched part 4. Wyatt was Hunter, who Katie dropped off and had adopted for some reason (reason never explained at all). There was Robbie (Katie's "son" for all purposes related to part 4) who just vanished at the end of Part 4 and never made mention of in the new one. What was the whole point of Robbie? To have a friend for Wyatt/Hunter? Didn't they also have the same birthday (not 100% sure on that). So yeah, lots of unanswered questions in the new one. Hunter is NOT Robbie. In fact, had Matthew Chmiel watched Ghost Dimension, he would have seen the picture and video of Wyatt/HUNTER in some of that doctor's witchcraft (which never even explained that doctor as he just came into this film and it seems strange since this was an all women cult). But no mention of Robbie at all who was not killed.
Spoiler:
'Robbie' was one of the marked ones. He was an agent of the coven meant to entice Wyatt/Hunter into being open to possession.
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'Robbie' was one of the marked ones. He was an agent of the coven meant to entice Wyatt/Hunter into being open to possession.
That makes sense and it's actually how I looked at it (especially after watching the marked ones).

I really need to re-watch the marked ones as I can't believe how much I don't remember.

In the marked ones
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were the two little girls shown in the house katie and her sister? - meaning they were traveling in time at that point?
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That makes sense and it's actually how I looked at it (especially after watching the marked ones).

I really need to re-watch the marked ones as I can't believe how much I don't remember.

In the marked ones
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were the two little girls shown in the house katie and her sister? - meaning they were traveling in time at that point?
Spoiler:
correct, the coven already had plans for Jesse as the possessions/hauntings are not limited to Katie/Kristie's family. IMO I think that's a problem some people have with this series; In each film the evil always wins and there is no clear resolution. I think with that we are just meant to believe that this evil is going on in the background and we have no clue. I guess that makes a bit more creepy.
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correct, the coven already had plans for Jesse as the possessions/hauntings are not limited to Katie/Kristie's family. IMO I think that's a problem some people have with this series; In each film the evil always wins and there is no clear resolution. I think with that we are just meant to believe that this evil is going on in the background and we have no clue. I guess that makes a bit more creepy.
And see in my opinion...that's what makes the marked ones awesome...a lot of people are complaining about not enough info in the newest ones (and who knows, prob rightly so but I haven't seen it yet) but I always thought we did get a lot answered in the marked ones.

I think the main issue is that people are looking for "Solid" facts and want it all spelled out for them - when it comes to this series...I don't need that and what was given in the marked ones was awesome but again.....I don't blame people - to each their own. BUT with all that said....I also see how most would be pissed with how long it was dragged out and how some stuff makes absolutely no sense or was just too damn confusing.

And yes, the facts you stated DO in fact make it more creepy.
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And see in my opinion...that's what makes the marked ones awesome...a lot of people are complaining about not enough info in the newest ones (and who knows, prob rightly so but I haven't seen it yet) but I always thought we did get a lot answered in the marked ones.

I think the main issue is that people are looking for "Solid" facts and want it all spelled out for them - when it comes to this series...I don't need that and what was given in the marked ones was awesome but again.....I don't blame people - to each their own. BUT with all that said....I also see how most would be pissed with how long it was dragged out and how some stuff makes absolutely no sense or was just too damn confusing.

And yes, the facts you stated DO in fact make it more creepy.
I enjoyed the Marked Ones and I can see Robbie being marked, but really, is that ALL Robbie was? To draw back in Hunter/Wyatt? Why even give him up for the adoption then? And really what was Jesse's and his friend really doing? Seemed strange to have a female woman as the one to bring out Toby when everyone turning bad was male. I'm still a bit confused at this part.
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I enjoyed the Marked Ones and I can see Robbie being marked, but really, is that ALL Robbie was? To draw back in Hunter/Wyatt? Why even give him up for the adoption then? And really what was Jesse's and his friend really doing? Seemed strange to have a female woman as the one to bring out Toby when everyone turning bad was male. I'm still a bit confused at this part.
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What you're supposed to take away from The Marked Ones is that the Midwives have an overlapping agenda that goes beyond Katie/Kristie's family. They had to give Hunter up for adoption as the time travel in the PA franchise, doesn't lead the traveler to a point in time where Hunter would be of age to fulfill his role in the Midwives' plan. I'm not sure what you mean about Jesse and his friend, do you mean Oscar? His classmate? Tobey is only one demon in the entire grand scheme of things, and from what I got watching Ghost Dimension, he is probably the demon that grandma Lois summoned, which is why he keeps following her relatives, or perhaps its a demon that has existed in many different bodies over the years and constantly needs a new one.
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I don't remember if his name was Oscar, don't think he is. Wasn't Oscar Jesse's BFF? The other guy that was like Jesse who turned evil. You have the Mexicans needing to be 18 before they turned. Then you have Wyatt/Hunter as well as the girl in this one are suddenly of age to do this? Cause they have birthdates of 6/6/05. Not sure why NOW is the time for them to get Tobey? And why did Kate all of a sudden turn in the first? I mean, if Hunter wasn't the right age, why turn then and not when he is of age just to throw him up for adoption? Still makes no sense to have a random, Robbie, just appear and then disappear. You think, with this being the 5th/6th movie in this franchise, things would be a bit clearer.
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I don't remember if his name was Oscar, don't think he is. Wasn't Oscar Jesse's BFF? The other guy that was like Jesse who turned evil. You have the Mexicans needing to be 18 before they turned. Then you have Wyatt/Hunter as well as the girl in this one are suddenly of age to do this? Cause they have birthdates of 6/6/05. Not sure why NOW is the time for them to get Tobey? And why did Kate all of a sudden turn in the first? I mean, if Hunter wasn't the right age, why turn then and not when he is of age just to throw him up for adoption? Still makes no sense to have a random, Robbie, just appear and then disappear. You think, with this being the 5th/6th movie in this franchise, things would be a bit clearer.
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You're thinking of Hector. Oscar is his classmate who was also marked at birth to become possessed. There is possession as a soldier, and there is giving a demon a flesh and blood body (Hunter/Leila) are central to complete the ritual. It was implied however in PA 3, that the girls were needed to play host to "Tobey" but Leila (while still under the influence of the witches) told her mom, when she found her "It's okay mommy, they only needed a drop of my blood." However since she is a "special" child the coven would most likely keep her around, as she would be instrumental in finding others like herself or use her as a means to give a different demon a new body. "Tobey" is not the only demon in this whole story, but he is the one attached to Katie/Kristie's family, as I stated before; It is possible that this demon "Tobey" is something older than the coven itself, or it may be the sole demon they worship. Hunter is the first male in their family, and with most stories involving deals made with demons, the first born is usually the one thing promised.

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Yeah, I remember the whole first male being born in the first or second film. Still, with Leila, she's a female. Doesn't seem or make mention of the family making promises like that. So that is a bit strange.
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Yeah, I remember the whole first male being born in the first or second film. Still, with Leila, she's a female. Doesn't seem or make mention of the family making promises like that. So that is a bit strange.
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Remember the dude with the ponytail telling Kristie, "you're going to help us find a girl, a very special girl like you." The house that Leila is living in is a conduit for the coven, as part of their plan was to plant the Fleege family there. Katie/Kristie's family promised a first born male, and yes that is Hunter, but the other side of the coin is Leila. Both of them are needed to give the demon "Tobey" a flesh and blood body. Leila is special only because of her birth date. That book on demonology glossed over it briefly but it does make mention that both her and Hunter share the same birthday and were born under the same circumstances. The Midwives' reach is also responsible for the death of the Degloshi family in NV...


The series didn't do the best job of telling the viewer that 'yes this involves more than THIS family, but there is enough there if you dig a little deeper.
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I remember that Degloshi family back when the videos came out. Has there ever been any OFFICIAL mention of this tying into the movies and franchise (I do think the daughter was in Part 4, but any mention on the DVDs or even the official pages of the franchise?) I know there were a LOT of delays so wondering if it was just dropped or what happened. And how did Kristie help them find a girl? Kristie basically gave birth to Hunter and completely forgot about everything (though the whole mother thing that was a big question mark after watching 3 into 1 was finally answered).

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Originally Posted by jacob_b
I remember that Degloshi family back when the videos came out. Has there ever been any OFFICIAL mention of this tying into the movies and franchise (I do think the daughter was in Part 4, but any mention on the DVDs or even the official pages of the franchise?) I know there were a LOT of delays so wondering if it was just dropped or what happened. And how did Kristie help them find a girl? Kristie basically gave birth to Hunter and completely forgot about everything (though the whole mother thing that was a big question mark after watching 3 into 1 was finally answered).
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Kristie and Katie by way of Tobey (or something worse) are able to see into the future. Don't you remember the brothers watching the tapes? And Kristie said she saw them, and perfectly described Leila's room?

Katie/Kristie were brainwashed throughout the rest of their childhood, so while they remember something evil around them, they can't remember it completely. During one of the tapes in Ghost Dimension Katie asks the dude in in the ponytail "where is my mom, did she get hurt?..wasn't she on the stairs?"




They kept telling her she had to be strong, and you can safely assume because she would eventually have to kill her sister. Which is what she did at the end of PA 2


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