ddrknghtrtns

Disney also inherited the Garfield universe with the Fox acquisition.

milo bloom

OMG, I was just being silly, but I just googled this and you're right.

These mergers are out of control. Sure, it's neat to see the X-Men with the rest of the MCU, but where is the room for creativity now? It's all one big blob.

Jay G.

It's the fact that it's unreleased, and also now wholly owned through them, which could mean that they could tie it into the MCU. Also, the premise of the film, which seems to rely on the main characters not really being aware of what a mutant is, could make it a way to "introduce" mutants into the MCU.

There were rumors last August:
https://mcuexchange.com/new-mutants-recut-mcu-report/
Also, a Disney email from January called it an MCU film by accident, although we don't know if the mistake was calling it and MCU film when it isn't, or accidentally revealing that it is an MCU film too early.
https://www.newsarama.com/48571-is-n...f-the-mcu.html

ddrknghtrtns

After seeing the trailer, it would probably be for the best to just bury it on Disney +. Guessing they will include some kind of end credit scene that will try to awkwardly connect it with the MCU.

dex14

Contracts prevent that from happening.

Josh-da-man

I heard that they scrubbed references to the other Fox X-Men films from it. That might have been done to integrate it into the MCU. Or because they wanted to make it a standalone film now that the Fox X-Men series is dead.

One indication that they might not integrate it into the MCU is because of the way Fox bounced it around their schedule, which leads to me think they didn't have much confidence in it. (Or, in plain English, it sucks and they're trying to figure out where to bury it.)

Feige also keeps a pretty tight clamp on the MCU, and doesn't even let the ABC series like Agents of SHIELD and Inhumans into it. Nor the Netflix series, even though they all, ostensibly, take place in it.

Also seems kind of weird if they used The New Mutants, of all of the X-Men franchise properties, as the X-Men's debutante ball into the MCU.

Then again, with COVID-19 shutting down Hollywood, they might be tempted to integrate an already completed film as part of the MCU.

Jay G.

That was different; he was having conflicts with the head of Marvel, which controlled the TV side as well. After Feige got the movie division moved to be directly under Disney, the split was such that it didn't allow for easy integration anymore. And Inhumans was apparently Perlmutter's baby, even back when it was going to be a movie.

Jarvis from Agent Carter did appear in Avengers Endgame though.

Maybe in the sense that it's not a "grand entrance," but any introduction is going to have to answer the question "why hasn't anyone in the MCU heard of mutants before?" They could go full reboot, and have it be just at the beginning of mutations appearing in the population, but the apparent premise of New Mutants, that there are already mutants but a secret group is keeping them secret/prisoner, offers another explanation that would allow other fully grown mutants to come "out of hiding" so to speak.

fujishig

This is also why I have doubts it's going to be some important movie bridging MCU and the Fox films, if it can't even stream on Disney + for a while when it does go to streaming.

Last thing they want to do is have a movie like that be on HBO Max.

OldBoy

Let X-Men be X-Men, let MCU be just that. I see no reason for crossover or additions. Just so many characters. 2 entities is fine...

fujishig

Besides the fact that they all belong to the same comic universe and always have...

OldBoy

I know, but never have they been together on screen and really don’t need it. If there was some type of story that made some lick of sense then I’m all for it. Hell I love both. To be together would be great, but I think they are fine without. X-Men just needs this New Mutants reboot, if that’s what it is. MCU still trucking along, but we’ll never have the first 23...

Jay G.

I thought dex14 was saying that contracts prevent it going straight to Disney+ . There's sometimes contracts with actors and directors and such that, based on profit participation and such, a theatrical release could be mandatory.

Josh-da-man

This is why we need the mutants in the MCU...

fujishig

I thought he was talking about the Fox contract which makes this go to HBO first. Could be wrong though.

Decker

No that is correct.

windom

New theatrical release date: Aug. 28, 2020. Let's hope this one sticks.

https://deadline.com/2020/05/disney-...ng-1202933694/

cultshock

You're out of your mind, that's crazy! The diehard fans would never accept that, and connecting the two would do nothing but benefit everyone, there's no frigging way Disney will keep them separate. One reason for the success of the MCU films (and honestly, one big reason for the early success of the comics in the 60's), was because everything is interconnected.

sauce07

At this point they must really think they have something with this movie. It would've been so easy to dump it, but they keep pushing for it to be a theatrical release.

DJariya

Even if this only makes $100M That's $100M more than it would get if it went straight to Disney + or Hulu.

Might as well get something out of it,

Mike86

This film has become such a curiosity. I don’t know that it’ll be any good but I want to see it.

LorenzoL

They must have the unofficial record for the most changes to a movie theatrical release. No?

milo bloom

That's an interesting point. Unless they had a contract with one of the actors that it had to be in the theaters for at least a week, then they could have just dropped it on VOD & Blu and be done with it.
Maybe they want to keep a certain amount of prestige to the X franchise.

I doubt it would happen, but a fantastic extra for the Blu release would be a documentary about its troubled production.

sauce07

There was a movie with Ewan McGregor called Nightwatch that was listed in Entertainment Weekly's Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall movie Preview issues for like 3 years straight.

LorenzoL

We have seen examples of Disney having no qualms about putting a particular movie in their Streaming Services during this pandemic so why are they so adamant about having a theatrical release for this? Does it tie in to what they are trying to do with the Mutants in the MCU or is it a contract like Milo is indicating? This is so bizarre.

Jay G.

You might be misremembering that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightw..._film)#Release
So that's at least 3 date pushes, although it was only delayed by a year and a half.

Meanwhile, New Mutants had these release dates:

• April 13, 2018
• February 22, 2019
• August 2, 2019
• April 3, 2020
• August 28, 2020

That's 4 release date changes, delaying it about 2 1/2 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ne...ost-production
https://collider.com/deadpool-2-new-...-release-date/


There have been films that have been delayed longer, but I'm not sure any had as many date changes.
https://screencrush.com/longest-delayed-movies/
https://collider.com/delayed-movies/