Movies that have not aged well?
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Spider-Man felt aged on release day, between the Macy Grey appearance and the forced "New Yorkers stick together!" sequence.
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A lot of the James Bond movies, especially the ones from the Connery era. A lot of what was then cutting edge technology is now everyday . I'm not saying the movies are bad, but they do require one to put themselves in a certain mindset for enjoyment. Seems kind of
In all honesty, all movies where the emphasis was on the FX and action over the story seems to not age well in general . The likes of Harryhausen and such are still entertaining to watch, but only as illustrations to what FX were like back in the day and what was considered impressive in its day. That's why so many older movies that are still revered today (Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Godfather) are story and character driven.
In all honesty, all movies where the emphasis was on the FX and action over the story seems to not age well in general . The likes of Harryhausen and such are still entertaining to watch, but only as illustrations to what FX were like back in the day and what was considered impressive in its day. That's why so many older movies that are still revered today (Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Godfather) are story and character driven.
Time is the ultimate critic; very few films stand the test of time, and fewer still improve.
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Tough crowd. Love a lot of what's posted. I think the Crow is just fine due to the stylistic directing choices/setting. The only thing that really dates it, IMO is the soundtrack. Love it all, but it definitely dates it.
On the flip side, I'll agree with Spider-man. Burton's Batman and Raimi's Spider-man both felt dated shortly after they came out. Both, to me, feel dated due to the heavily stylized nature of them. Green Goblin just looks absurd and always did.
Acting, charisma, chemistry... all reasons the film holds up despite dated effects. And yes, even some of the 'cutesy' humor/camp is still just that. What I don't think holds up is the 30-45 minute build up on Krypton. The same thing MoS will suffer from in years to come.
I also disagree with the notion that Superman/Reeve fans hold that against MoS. I love Donner's Supes/Reeve and liked MoS. One has nothing to do with the other. MoS's issues have nothing to do with the Donner flicks.
One of my favorite films and favorite scenes. I don't think age has anything to do with this one, only taste or it's 'overplayed-ness.'
Just watched ET a couple weeks ago with the kiddos. Still fantastic. It may be slower paced, but any older film by today's quick cutting ADHD standard would feel that way. The film is deliberately paced so you fall in love with ET with Eliot, feel his pain during the second act, and hope during the final act. It's a finely crafted film that's just as magical as it was in '83.
On the flip side, I'll agree with Spider-man. Burton's Batman and Raimi's Spider-man both felt dated shortly after they came out. Both, to me, feel dated due to the heavily stylized nature of them. Green Goblin just looks absurd and always did.
Trust me when I say that those Superman films haven't aged nearly as much as the two modern versions will (Superman Returns and Man of Steel) in 30 years. At least the Reeve films had some heart to them that keeps them appealing after all this time.
I also think you're confusing humor with 'camp' when it comes to the original film. What you call 'camp' is a very old-fashioned 'His Girl Friday' type of humor.
I also think you're confusing humor with 'camp' when it comes to the original film. What you call 'camp' is a very old-fashioned 'His Girl Friday' type of humor.
I also disagree with the notion that Superman/Reeve fans hold that against MoS. I love Donner's Supes/Reeve and liked MoS. One has nothing to do with the other. MoS's issues have nothing to do with the Donner flicks.
Just watched ET a couple weeks ago with the kiddos. Still fantastic. It may be slower paced, but any older film by today's quick cutting ADHD standard would feel that way. The film is deliberately paced so you fall in love with ET with Eliot, feel his pain during the second act, and hope during the final act. It's a finely crafted film that's just as magical as it was in '83.
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You didn't think it was, oh, a *tad* manipulative and cliched? Make everyone happy with a song, because of the "healing power of rock and roll"? There's much to like about Almost Famous but that scene makes me nauseous I could just kick a pigeon.
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I saw Masters of the Universe with Dolph Lundgren recently. Boy, has that aged poorly. I remember it being pretty terrible when I first saw it as a kid back in 1987, but let me tell you, it has only gotten worse since then.
I'd also have to nominate any 80's movies with punk rock-inspired street toughs as well. It's really hard to find a jagoff with a purple Flock of Seagulls hairdo, torn jeans with colored bandanas tied around their thighs, converse hightops, and a spiked choker necklace intimidating.
I'd also have to nominate any 80's movies with punk rock-inspired street toughs as well. It's really hard to find a jagoff with a purple Flock of Seagulls hairdo, torn jeans with colored bandanas tied around their thighs, converse hightops, and a spiked choker necklace intimidating.
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WarGames
Hackers
good movies but technology looks really dated.
Hackers
good movies but technology looks really dated.
#36
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My Bloody Valentine (1981), one of the few slashers I think didn't age well. I blame mostly the cast looking like dated borderline porn actors, and some of the fashion/hair styles. Compare MBV with Friday the 13th shot one year earlier, F13 looks fresher and almost timeless.
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Comedies can age very quickly if they rely on cultural norms that have passed on. I think most people today would be bored to tears by most Fifties' comedies, even the ones featuring big stars. The tone of comedy was much more conservative in film before the cultural changes of the 1960s. Dramas are much more timeless since what drives them haven't changed in people that much over the years.
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Many of you are pointing to the use of technology in a film (i.e., WarGames) as contributing it "looking dated." I don't agree with that. It may date the film, but it doesn't change its look.
I think Scarface is a great example ... I watched Scarface and The Godfather for the first time a number of years ago. As Sven said, Scarface looked like a crappy made for TV movie and I hated it. The Godfather, however, has held up wonderfully.
It seems as if the 1980s were the worst for producing movies that now appear dated. Special effects from decades earlier look better than most of the stuff produced then.
I think Scarface is a great example ... I watched Scarface and The Godfather for the first time a number of years ago. As Sven said, Scarface looked like a crappy made for TV movie and I hated it. The Godfather, however, has held up wonderfully.
It seems as if the 1980s were the worst for producing movies that now appear dated. Special effects from decades earlier look better than most of the stuff produced then.
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Instead of looking at hair styles and technology, I think movies are dated when their message becomes obsolete.
Alphaville. Computers will take over the world. But if you ask the computer about love, it will blow up.
The Green Berets. We're here to help the Vietnamese.
Easy Rider. If you try to be yourself, hillbillies will kill you.
Network. Television will become a wasteland of reality shows and guys shouting at the camera telling you what to think.
Whole genres are dead, like space procedurals, cold war paranoia, and yellow peril. They wouldn't make a movie today where the first 30 minutes are lectures about how a rocketship works, or communist infiltration, or sly orientals.
Alphaville. Computers will take over the world. But if you ask the computer about love, it will blow up.
The Green Berets. We're here to help the Vietnamese.
Easy Rider. If you try to be yourself, hillbillies will kill you.
Network. Television will become a wasteland of reality shows and guys shouting at the camera telling you what to think.
Whole genres are dead, like space procedurals, cold war paranoia, and yellow peril. They wouldn't make a movie today where the first 30 minutes are lectures about how a rocketship works, or communist infiltration, or sly orientals.
#42
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Jim Carrey's The Mask is extremely dated. I guess that's what happens when you base half your movie off the resurgence of swing dancing that only lasted a year or so.
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This might reflect my own personal bias that the 80's were culturally our worst decade, but so many movies from that period ( hair, fashion, synthesizer scores) are unwatchable now.
Someone mentioned that fashion, tech, etc. don't annoy in other decades, and this is true. I just think we got it all wrong in the 80's.
Someone mentioned that fashion, tech, etc. don't annoy in other decades, and this is true. I just think we got it all wrong in the 80's.
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Raimi's Spiderman trilogy. (even though it was pretty terrible to begin with).
fight scene's in basically any film noir ever made.
fight scene's in basically any film noir ever made.
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So i was watching Reality Bites last night and just realized i wasn't into it as much as i was back then in the 1990's. it just was dated in the style and i couldn't relate to the story anymore. sad because i remember really enjoying this one. it just hasn't aged well for me...
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Comedies can age very quickly if they rely on cultural norms that have passed on. I think most people today would be bored to tears by most Fifties' comedies, even the ones featuring big stars. The tone of comedy was much more conservative in film before the cultural changes of the 1960s. Dramas are much more timeless since what drives them haven't changed in people that much over the years.
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I've kind of gotten caught up in the hype of Star Wars Episode 7, so I thought I would watch the Original Trilogy the past few weekends, and Return of the Jedi is the only one that did not age well! Star Wars and Empire are still great, but Jedi was a borefest for me. And the Special Edition changes by Lucas make it even worse!
It does make me wonder about Episode 7 and can they recapture the excitement because if you think about it now, Jedi was really when the Star Wars movies took a tumble, and then the Prequels just fell over the cliff!
It does make me wonder about Episode 7 and can they recapture the excitement because if you think about it now, Jedi was really when the Star Wars movies took a tumble, and then the Prequels just fell over the cliff!