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Old 05-07-14, 11:26 AM
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by Chadm
It used to be that remakes were only made when the filmmakers had something fresh or original to put on screen.
Right, you keep on believing that.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Why do people think hitting yourself in the head with a hammer feels good? Every time I hit myself in the head with a hammer, it feels bad!
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

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Why do people think hitting yourself in the head with a hammer feels good? Every time I hit myself in the head with a hammer, it feels bad!
You're hitting the wrong spot. But keep trying, eventually you'll hit the right one.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by Mike86
You could counter this question with the opposite. Why do some people immediately assume that a remake will be terrible? Granted there are some movies that are deemed somewhat "untouchable" and shouldn't be remade but there have been quite a few that I've enjoyed more than or on close to the same level as the original film. Robocop actually comes to mind for me recently. The new film actually wasn't that bad and can stand on it's own and in my mind actually expanded on some things I always wished the original film would have touched on. Not to say it's a better film than the original, but it is one that I think once more people give it a shot will realize that it's really not so terrible.
This is a better question than the OP.

I think the Italian Job remake is quite entertaining popcorn fare and the original kind of hokey, but to each his own.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

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Older is always better, in all situations.
Except when it comes to Women. At least that's how it seems when dvdtalkers are rating them.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Yeah, I was going to post some current Meg Ryan and Goldie Hawn pics, but decided to spare everyone the trauma.

Italian Job is a good one. Also, I've never seen the original but the Ocean's 11 remake is generally perceived to be better.

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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by Mike86
You could counter this question with the opposite. Why do some people immediately assume that a remake will be terrible?
Because statistically speaking more often than not they are.

8 reasons movie reboots fail: http://io9.com/8-reasons-movie-reboots-fail-465458531
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Batman Begins is technically a remake of the Batman franchise, and it's a very good recent remake. TDK and DKR are less good, but they're better than any of the Burton/Schumacher movies.

Dawn of the Dead is another relatively recent remake that is at least on par with the original.


Originally Posted by Mike86
You could counter this question with the opposite. Why do some people immediately assume that a remake will be terrible? Granted there are some movies that are deemed somewhat "untouchable" and shouldn't be remade but there have been quite a few that I've enjoyed more than or on close to the same level as the original film. Robocop actually comes to mind for me recently. The new film actually wasn't that bad and can stand on it's own and in my mind actually expanded on some things I always wished the original film would have touched on. Not to say it's a better film than the original, but it is one that I think once more people give it a shot will realize that it's really not so terrible.
Nostalgia is powerful. Most people have nostalgia for their childhood which they perceive as "better times" and don't like things from the new generation as much.

Also some people are just pessimistic by nature and like to hate on everything no matter what. These people tend to be much more vocal than optimistic people, and therefore it creates a perception that everyone is a hater. I really don't mind the Star Wars prequels. Sure, they are not anywhere close to being as good as the OT, but they aren't so horrifically bad that they "raped my childhood" or any of that nonsense.

Originally Posted by inri222
Because statistically speaking more often than not they are.

8 reasons movie reboots fail: http://io9.com/8-reasons-movie-reboots-fail-465458531
Statistically speaking, most movies in general aren't that good. There's probably one good movie out of every ten made.

The ratio of good remakes to bad remakes is probably fairly close to the ratio of good movies in general to bad movies in general.

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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

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Freudian slip?

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Italian Job is a good one. Also, I've never seen the original but the Ocean's 11 remake is generally perceived to be better.
Yep, another good one. That said, I'm not a big aficionado of '60s movies or Rat Pack fare (I prefer Sinatra by himself) so I might not be the best judge.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

PG-13 remakes of R-rated films should be banned, I say.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by inri222
Because statistically speaking more often than not they are.

8 reasons movie reboots fail: http://io9.com/8-reasons-movie-reboots-fail-465458531
Meh. Statistics on things like that don't really matter to me. Watch something and judge for yourself whether you like it or not.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by taffer
Dawn of the Dead is another relatively recent remake that is at least on par with the original.
Speaking of George Romero, The Crazies remake is infinitely better than the below average original.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by Mike86
Meh. Statistics on things like that don't really matter to me. Watch something and judge for yourself whether you like it or not.
My statistical findings : The majority of remakes remakes I have watched suck.....

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Speaking of George Romero, The Crazies remake is infinitely better than the below average original.
I disagree but I could understand why.

Originally Posted by taffer
Dawn of the Dead is another relatively recent remake that is at least on par with the original.
Hell no!!! The original DOTD is one of the greatest horror films of all time.

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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by taffer
Sure, they are not anywhere close to being as good as the OT, but they aren't so horrifically bad that they "raped my childhood" or any of that nonsense.
No. They are that horrifically bad.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by davidh777
Freudian slip?
Nope. Posting on a phone.

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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by Chadm
The last time a remake was better than the original was probably in the 1980's.
Casino Royale (2006) is largely considered superior to the 1967 original.

Originally Posted by taffer
Batman Begins is technically a remake of the Batman franchise, and it's a very good recent remake.
I think franchise reboots are different than remakes. Batman Begins doesn't retell the story of any of the 4 previous films, and especially deviates from the 1989 Tim Burton film. Besides, the Tim Burton film could be seen as a reboot of the series after the 1966 movie adaptation of the TV show.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

I would mention The Wizard of Oz but then we would run into the arguments of adaptions of source material vs authentic remakes.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

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I would mention The Wizard of Oz but then we would run into the arguments of adaptions of source material vs authentic remakes.
Yep, Oz and comic book films fall into a different discussion. Batman Begins is in no way a remake of Batman.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

I could argue that most remakes/reboots suck...but let's be honest, most original films suck these days too - at least when we're talking big studio releases. Then again, very few of those aren't based on books, video games, or just ripping off other established series.

The real gems are in smaller, independent films.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Italian Job is a good one.
Except it doesn't take place in Italy.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Thanks for all of the replies, and good points about some people just liking newer movies because they have "updated" special effects.

And the comments about remakes/reboots being automatically better were from people's personal review of a movie that they decided to post to various movie review sites.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

Would anyone kill me if I said the Red Dawn remake was (IMO) better than the original?
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Would anyone kill me if I said the Red Dawn remake was (IMO) better than the original?
Probably. It's a minority opinion, and god fucking knows the internet can't tolerate one of those.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

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Would anyone kill me if I said the Red Dawn remake was (IMO) better than the original?
It's OK the original which I admit having some nostalgia is not that good.
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Re: Why do some people think that remakes are better simply because they are new?

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It's OK the original which I admit having some nostalgia is not that good.
Yeah, it hasn't really aged that well. I figured the remake would be horrid based on the reviews, but...it wasn't.


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