Solid Snake

I believe WB now regrets failing to approve that Whedon WW movie now w/ The Avengers being great and whatnot.

My Other Self

I bet they do but I can't say I would've been that jazzed about it. She's always been one of the least interesting DC characters to me.

WB is clearly trying to capitalize on the ensemble genre but they're off to a piss-poor start with Green Lantern being as bad as it was.

I think it'd be interest to shadow Marvel and do lead-up films to a Justice League movie. It'd at least have me more invested.

Pizza

It could work. Just need the right script. I believe Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are more iconic than Marvel's mighty heroes. Therefore, less need for lead in movies. Plus those characters have been played by several actors each already so it won't feel as odd to have a new cast in the suits. I'll buy a ticket no matter what. I want to see this movie as much as The Avengers.

Michael T Hudson

47 is old as shit? I am guessing you are still in your twenties.

Hokeyboy

Good to know I'm six years out from being "old as shit"

Artman

I would guess Avengers 2 is the last he's contracted for... after that, Marvel would either have to pay a huge amount for one more Iron Man and/or a cameo in Avengers 3. But by that time, they'll have 2-3 new characters...and although none will reach Iron Man's popularity, the Marvel machine will be rolling along well enough that they can probably write out Iron Man from needing to be in the mix.

majorjoe23

I believe Iron Man 3 is his last contracted film.

B5Erik

He'll do The Avengers 2 as well.

After that? I'm sure that Marvel will be able to throw enough money at him to get him to do Iron Man 4, but that may be it.

Abob Teff

There was a time when we believed there was good and evil in the world. Back then, we had heroes. They protected us from all that was wrong in the world.



Since then, I grew up. I realized the good guys don't always win. Batman was broken ...



... Superman fell ...



... the lines between dark and light became blurred.



Then, it just became dark.



Now, it is time to return to the light.
It is time for us to feel safe again.
It is time for justice.




(In other words ... Superman's movie must end on a down note - leaving room for a sequel of course; Green Lantern 2 must show us the fall of Hal Jordan and introduce another Green Lantern - chose whichever one you want. Justice League would be founded by the new Green Lantern and Wonder Woman and would feature Green Arrow, Flash, Martian Manhunter, and Black Canary.)

majorjoe23

E doesn't seem to think that:

http://www.eonline.com/news/avengers...hink_we/314861


2. Robert Downey Jr. Will Make a Lot of Money, Somewhere: The star's Iron Man deal runs out after the upcoming Iron Man 3. So, either Marvel will pay Downey (a lot) to suit up again for The Avengers 2, or he'll take his bankable self to another franchise (and Marvel can try out its James Bond plan).

RocShemp

And it was a solid treatment too. Basically Wonder Woman in WWII fighting Nazis armed with Amazonian weapons.

Rob V

I suppose this could work but the bar has been set so extremely high by Avengers it's unlikely.

I'm also running under the assumptions that

Michael Corvin

I am fascinated by the fact that 100% of the people in this thread think The Avengers was a success because of Marvel's "Method." Avengers was a success because it was a damn good movie. I'd only seen half of the "build up." I wasn't familiar with Thor, Loki, Hawkeye or Black Widow. It doesn't matter, the movie absolutely stands on its own. The build-up definitely built awareness, but that's not the reason it succeeded.

That being said, I absolutely think JL could succeed this early but they would have to have Bale and whatshisfaceplayingSupes on board to anchor the movie. They are the two most iconic heroes out there. Build the movie around those two and pepper it in with Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, and maybe 1-2 lesser characters(leave out Green Latern and forget that movie ever happened). Even without build-up movies, people KNOW the DC-5, they're legendary characters. They don't need a build up "method" to work.

As for Bale's Batman working, that's definitely a delicate situation to tackle but I don't think it's impossible like everyone else.

Lastly, at that point we will have had 6 Superman movies with Lex Luthor as a villain. For the love of god, come up with something new for JL.

JesseCuster

If DC wants to do this thing they need to build it up like the Marvel franchises. Which means a JLA movie is probably 4 years away minimum. The directors are the key to this. Throw money at the best in the biz. Tarantino, Speilberg, Scorcese, Fincher, PT Anderson, etc. Try to get them to helm a franchise. Batman is rock solid. Snyder, who I think is a good director, will hopefully solidify Superman. Try to get other top flight directors for Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (the recent release should be utterly ignored for film series canon) and another...Aquaman?..Martian Manhunter?...Green Arrow? If they don't do this and don't build a central pillar like the Marvel franchises did, they will fail horribly. And a horrible overarching team film will be extremely hard to ignore, like Marvel did with Ang Lee's Hulk. The damage could be irrepairable.

Xander

I think they could do a decent JL movie if they did a similar approach to Marvel's. If the new Superman movie does well, they could try to get that actor for Supes. In the meantime, have someone do a GOOD Green Lantern movie for Ryan Reynolds. I don't know about a stand-alone Wonder Woman movie. Not really necessary. I think Superman, Batman and GL need their own movies to set them up. The big problem will be Batman. No way you're getting Nolan or Bale to do any more Batman, IMO. So you need to re-establish that character. Do it the way Marvel did - have them all sign on for 3 solo pics and three Justice League pics. They could make it happen. I doubt they will do it the "right" way, though. Superman Returns and the Green Lantern flick are proof that DC doesn't really know what it is doing with its movie characters.

Hokeyboy

I don't even want to see live-action DC movies anymore. I say put the money in animation (where they have always excelled at and consistently beaten Marvel) and produce feature-length, CG-animated films with Pixar/more-recent Dreamworks quality.

You know how this is going to play out. WB commissions a script, it gets rewritten by committee and handed to a workmanlike director who will play it out just as the studio wants it. Think a Raja Gosnell or Brad Peyton type. They'll throw $250 million at it and it'll gross just north of that, worldwide, at best. They'll be left scratching their heads as to "what went wrong" and be convinced that the public "doesn't want superhero movies anymore" when in fact they just don't want BAD ones. Meanwhile Marvel will keep on raking it in. Because they get it. Good for them.

And I say this primarily as a DC fan, who wants better but expects the least.

B5Erik

That's what I meant. He'll do it, but he's going to get paid a lot to do it. The Avengers 2 needs him, and after the staggering success of The Avengers they'll pay him top dollar to come back one more time.

And after that? Does he do Iron Man 4? Or does Marvel go James Bond and bring in a new actor?

We'll find out in a couple years...

RocShemp

As far as I know, RDJ is contracted for three IM movies and three Avengers movies. So they'll definitely have to re-negotiate for an IM4 but he's likely locked (depending on any clauses in his contract) for at least two more Avengers movies.

Ky-Fi

Although it might be too financially risky, I suppose another option for DC would be to make a Justice League movie like the Lord of the Rings, where you take three movies to build up the characters and tell a fuller story, rather than just trying to cram too much into a single 2 hour movie.

RocShemp

I saw the same idea suggested over at Blu-ray.com. That could work but, as suggested over there, it'd also require a massive prologue to get the audience in the right mindset right from the start.

Would be a cool approach, though.

Hokeyboy

Coming Summer 2015 ... Director Rob Cohen brings his unique creative vision to Justice League...


*wakes up screaming*

TGM

This idea sounds like a rushed hot mess. Although I would like to see Batman in a less heavy-handed movie than Nolan's trilogy.

PenguinJoe

After about three movies I find super-hero movies kind of fizzle out. See X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Blade. So I don't see the point in doing like four movies in a franchise time to move on.

Hokeyboy

WB is seeing the results, but they fail to see the process. How much swill are they going to endure from the Greg Berlantis and Joel Silvers of the world until they realize that it takes creativity and vision to make something like the Avengers happen?

Iron Man is a GREAT example. Here was a character virtually UNKNOWN to mass audiences (even less so than Green Lantern), but with a strong script, exceptional marketing and promotion, and a virtuoso breakout RDJ performance, Marvel exploded onto the scene with a winning movie, blockbuster grosses, and a strong foundation on which to build their "cinematic universe".

WB sees superheroes they already own and potential dollar signs. Period. Green Lantern could have been amazing, but you can tell by the finished product that barely anyone involved with the movie really believed in it. The script was poor, the direction flat, the editing abysmal... a $250 million turd.

I so want "Man of Steel" to be great. I really do. But I doubt their ability to produce anything of quality that doesn't have "A Christopher Nolan Film" listed in the credits...

Giantrobo

On all points.



You and me both...It's like being a KISS or Star Wars fan.