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Old 03-07-14 | 02:48 PM
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The Lone Ranger, if anything, had too MUCH "whimsy".
Old 03-07-14 | 03:13 PM
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Johnny Depp as Zorro. I called it.
Old 03-07-14 | 03:17 PM
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Antonio Banderas is not White/Caucasian, he's Spaniard.
Old 03-07-14 | 03:19 PM
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...a Dark Knight-style unveiling of the character with a new backstory, gritty realism and emotional core.

Hollywood to Honest language translation:

The only connection with the actual Zorro concept will be our character uses a sword. He won't actually be called Zorro in the film but everyone will know him as 'Z'.

Rumored names for the role of the dashing Spaniard include Will Smith and Jennifer Lawrence. Michael B. Jordan has officially taken his name off the list with the announcement he's the next Supergirl in WB's films.
Old 03-07-14 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
People from Spain are no less "white" than people from France, Italy, Germany, or the UK.
Old 03-07-14 | 03:31 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Europe

Caucasian != Spaniard. Just because we call everyone who has the slightest hint of a lighter color Caucasian does not mean they are.
Old 03-07-14 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Brack
Anthony Hopkins was a white Zorro. Just saying.
And he was black in The Human Stain.
Old 03-07-14 | 03:42 PM
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And he was black in The Human Stain.
That didn't bother me so much. What did bother me was the decision to reveal it "Crying Game" style.
Old 03-07-14 | 03:57 PM
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Antonio Banderas is not White/Caucasian, he's Spaniard.
Oh boy...
Old 03-07-14 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by creekdipper
Used to be that there was some assumption that audiences were familiar with the character (or could catch up...Tarzan, Sherlock Holmes, etc.). I can understand 'reboots' when a character has been mishandled from the original incarnations (Tarzan), but is it really necessary to reacquaint every new generation with iconic characters such as Superman? Is it necessary to see every director's vision of a character requiring tweaks to the origin story?

How about Black Zorro? Female Zorro? One-armed Zorro? At least those would be intriguing.
Hell, that's what they used to do back in the day. There were tons of serials and movies featuring various descendants or proteges of Zorro, the Count of Monte Cristo, Robin Hood, D'artagnan, etc. Just skip the origin and make the damn movie.

(Now I'm jonesing for a team-up between (any) Zorro and the One-Armed Swordsman. Throw in Zatoichi and Richard Sharpe while we're at it!)

Originally Posted by Axeramm
In this one Michael B Jordan is gonna play Zorro. Black, white, latino he can do it all. I think his next film after this is a new remake of the Charlie Chan films.
Not Charlie Chan! That's a character who's been traditionally played by white actors! Having a non-Caucasian in the role would be PC GONE MAD!

Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
Uhh Antonio Banderas is white.
Easy way to decide this - it's Alabama 1961. Which drinking fountain does he have to use?
Old 03-07-14 | 05:02 PM
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I think that anytime an actor is needed to play a Hispanic or a Spaniard the role should go to Ewan McGregor. Worked out well for The Impossible.
Old 03-07-14 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
This has Lone Ranger written all over it.
I LIKED The Lone Ranger, dammit!
Old 03-07-14 | 07:36 PM
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I don't have a problem with them darkening up a Zorror reboot. What really made me thing "this is going to suck" was when they said they were going to add "martial arts, and daggers and bare knuckle fighting." That makes it sound similar to that stupid Muskateer movie a couple years back with Mira Sorvino.
Old 03-07-14 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by robin2099
I don't have a problem with them darkening up a Zorror reboot. What really made me thing "this is going to suck" was when they said they were going to add "martial arts, and daggers and bare knuckle fighting." That makes it sound similar to that stupid Muskateer movie a couple years back with Mira Sorvino.
Um, you meant Mena Suvari, right?
Old 03-07-14 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by robin2099
I don't have a problem with them darkening up a Zorror reboot. What really made me thing "this is going to suck" was when they said they were going to add "martial arts, and daggers and bare knuckle fighting." That makes it sound similar to that stupid Muskateer movie a couple years back with Mira Sorvino.
So Zorro is a ninja?
Old 03-08-14 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TimeSkip
So Zorro is a ninja?
You could re-work the Zorro legend to happen in feudal Japan. Sony can contact my reps at CAA. I promise I'll undercut the deal they gave to Chris Boal.
Old 03-08-14 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by creekdipper
Getting tired of the 'reboots' that retell the origin story...especially when it happens every decade or so (here's looking at you, Spider-Man).

Seems that we either get the 'grim & gritty' treatment or the 'dumb comedy treatment' (Green Hornet).

Used to be that there was some assumption that audiences were familiar with the character (or could catch up...Tarzan, Sherlock Holmes, etc.). I can understand 'reboots' when a character has been mishandled from the original incarnations (Tarzan), but is it really necessary to reacquaint every new generation with iconic characters such as Superman? Is it necessary to see every director's vision of a character requiring tweaks to the origin story?

How about Black Zorro? Female Zorro? One-armed Zorro? At least those would be intriguing.

Although one-armed Z might need to wear a prosthetic arm in one incarnation to avoid detection of the secret identity.
Lady Rawhide.

Old 03-08-14 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TimeSkip
So Zorro is a ninja?
Lemme introduce you to the most popular television show in Spanish history:



Yeah, it's basically ninja Zorro.

No English-friendly release anywhere that I can find. Damn monolinguistic culture! Why did my forefathers have to assimilate so well?
Old 03-08-14 | 06:50 AM
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I think that anytime an actor is needed to play a Hispanic or a Spaniard the role should go to Ewan McGregor.
Only if the role requires frontal nudity. McGregor would invent a whole new way of slashing the Z.

Originally Posted by TimeSkip
So Zorro is a ninja?
There's no need to get racist, young man.

No comment on Lady Rawhide (although those covers were eye-catching).

I've got an old VHS of a female Zorro (Zorrita?)...and, no, it's not a porn parody.

I actually like a lot of the 'spin-offs' (Son of Robin Hood or the one with Kiera Knightly as Robin Hood's daughter). And ones with a female musketeer, etc. And when a character has been done to death, trying out something different (futuristic Beowulf & Phantom have been done) can be fun. But those are usually small-budget or side projects, and nobody's regarding them as a "definitive" or "faithful" version.

I guess it bothers me more when it happens to a character that hasn't really gotten his/her due in a faithful version...Modesty Blaise, for instance. When all that exists are either borderline parody or extremely low-budget, you'd like to see someone get it right before doing 'reboots'. Zorro has been done right (several times) and has seen various incarnations, so that's not as much as problem as when a big-budget movie like Green Hornet messes up the possibility of ever seeing a straight adaptation of the character in our lifetime. Athough I prefer Nolan's Batman to Burton's, at least there were a couple of decent Batman movies before Nolan's trilogy. Not so with some others who are still waiting a good rendition.
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This idea raped my 1950s!
Old 03-08-14 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
...a Dark Knight-style unveiling of the character with a new backstory, gritty realism and emotional core.

Hollywood to Honest language translation:

The only connection with the actual Zorro concept will be our character uses a sword. He won't actually be called Zorro in the film but everyone will know him as 'Z'.

Rumored names for the role of the dashing Spaniard include Will Smith and Jennifer Lawrence. Michael B. Jordan has officially taken his name off the list with the announcement he's the next Supergirl in WB's films.
I'm so sick of things being referred to as getting the Dark Knight treatment.
Old 03-08-14 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dex14
I'm so sick of things being referred to as getting the Dark Knight treatment.
YES! THIS IS REAL FILM! DARK! BROODING! IMPORTANT! GROUND-BREAKING!

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