The 86th Academy Awards — 2014 Nominations Discussion Thread
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Who knows, I think they're still making more.
#77
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An interesting omission for me was 'Inside Llewyn Davis'. SO much love for it when that movie came out, a bunch of Top 10 lists, some #1 spots on those lists, but no major nominations. Not even for Best Song. I can see how it just didn't connect well enough, but what I don't get is how 'A Serious Man' can get a Best Pic nom, but not this.
Last edited by CharlieK; 01-16-14 at 10:54 AM.
#80
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Was hoping Michael Jordan would sneak in for Fruitvale Station. Great performance, but released so early it seems like most people forgot about it.
#81
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#82
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Oh yeah, forgot one: "Oscar nominated movie, Bad Grandpa."
#83
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I need to get my butt in gear and watch American Hustle, Wolf of Wall Street, and 12 Years.
Jonah Hill being a two time nominated actor is pretty funny.
Jonah Hill being a two time nominated actor is pretty funny.
#85
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The longer it goes on, the less a fan I am of the "open-ended" Best Picture nominee number. Yes, there were deserving films that didn't make the final five with the previous system on occasions, but so what? It used to be that getting a Best Picture nod was a really big deal. Now it feels more like a Top 10 list, which isn't such a big deal. I remember when Beauty & the Beast got the first Best Picture nomination for an animated film -- that was huge. Having Up and then Toy Story 3 get one felt much less important because the number of nominees had doubled.
I've been watching the Oscars religiously and closely since 1979. While there have been plenty of surprises in other categories, and while there have been upsets in the Best Picture category, there hasn't been a single time in that stretch where the Best Picture winner wasn't one of the three most likely winners (and with the exception of Chariots of Fire in 1981, I'd say it was actually the #1 or #2 most likely winner). So if the #5 most likely winner isn't ever going to win, why do we need nine choices? If Philomena isn't going to win (spoiler : it won't), why does it even need a nomination? Something to put on the DVD box? More tickets to the Dolby Theater for their producers? I could live without that. Would movies like 127 Hours, Winter's Bone, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, A Serious Man or Midnight in Paris be thought of differently if they hadn't been Best Picture nominees? I don't think so. I just think it make the nod a little less special.
I've been watching the Oscars religiously and closely since 1979. While there have been plenty of surprises in other categories, and while there have been upsets in the Best Picture category, there hasn't been a single time in that stretch where the Best Picture winner wasn't one of the three most likely winners (and with the exception of Chariots of Fire in 1981, I'd say it was actually the #1 or #2 most likely winner). So if the #5 most likely winner isn't ever going to win, why do we need nine choices? If Philomena isn't going to win (spoiler : it won't), why does it even need a nomination? Something to put on the DVD box? More tickets to the Dolby Theater for their producers? I could live without that. Would movies like 127 Hours, Winter's Bone, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, A Serious Man or Midnight in Paris be thought of differently if they hadn't been Best Picture nominees? I don't think so. I just think it make the nod a little less special.
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The longer it goes on, the less a fan I am of the "open-ended" Best Picture nominee number. Yes, there were deserving films that didn't make the final five with the previous system on occasions, but so what? It used to be that getting a Best Picture nod was a really big deal. Now it feels more like a Top 10 list, which isn't such a big deal. I remember when Beauty & the Beast got the first Best Picture nomination for an animated film -- that was huge. Having Up and then Toy Story 3 get one felt much less important because the number of nominees had doubled.
I've been watching the Oscars religiously and closely since 1979. While there have been plenty of surprises in other categories, and while there have been upsets in the Best Picture category, there hasn't been a single time in that stretch where the Best Picture winner wasn't one of the three most likely winners (and with the exception of Chariots of Fire in 1981, I'd say it was actually the #1 or #2 most likely winner). So if the #5 most likely winner isn't ever going to win, why do we need nine choices? If Philomena isn't going to win (spoiler : it won't), why does it even need a nomination? Something to put on the DVD box? More tickets to the Dolby Theater for their producers? I could live without that. Would movies like 127 Hours, Winter's Bone, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, A Serious Man or Midnight in Paris be thought of differently if they hadn't been Best Picture nominees? I don't think so. I just think it make the nod a little less special.
I've been watching the Oscars religiously and closely since 1979. While there have been plenty of surprises in other categories, and while there have been upsets in the Best Picture category, there hasn't been a single time in that stretch where the Best Picture winner wasn't one of the three most likely winners (and with the exception of Chariots of Fire in 1981, I'd say it was actually the #1 or #2 most likely winner). So if the #5 most likely winner isn't ever going to win, why do we need nine choices? If Philomena isn't going to win (spoiler : it won't), why does it even need a nomination? Something to put on the DVD box? More tickets to the Dolby Theater for their producers? I could live without that. Would movies like 127 Hours, Winter's Bone, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, A Serious Man or Midnight in Paris be thought of differently if they hadn't been Best Picture nominees? I don't think so. I just think it make the nod a little less special.
It's to bring attention to the movies. That's all. Considering how self congratulatory the ceremonies already are, it's probably the least they could do.
But yeah, expanding it definitely hurts it a bit. I would have never watched Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close if it hadn't be nominated, and I wish I hadn't so there's that. It definitely raises the profile of a small movie like Winter's Bone.
In this case, it just helps out Dallas Buyers Club, Her, Nebraska, and Philomena which likely would not have been in that top 5.
#88
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Looks like Nebraska stole all the Llewyn Davis love. Shame, since Nebraska was shit and Davis was excellent.
#89
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I was curious about that, Nebraska had a much better trailer than Davis, critically Davis is slightly more revered... but I haven't seen either one.
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the baffling love for either movie is usually how it goes...
hell The Artist, imo, is a stupid movie and shouldnt have won but again, this is how things work
hell The Artist, imo, is a stupid movie and shouldnt have won but again, this is how things work
#94
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Four of the nominees for Best Pic have one-word titles: GRAVITY, HER, NEBRASKA and PHILOMENA. And one of the Best Animated film nominees: FROZEN.
How often has a film with a one-word title won Best Picture? Let's see if I can recall them off the top of my head:
WINGS
CIMARRON
REBECCA
CASABLANCA
HAMLET
GIGI
OLIVER!
PATTON
ROCKY
AMADEUS
PLATOON
UNFORGIVEN
ARGO
I'm sure I've forgotten a few, so there must be more.
How often has a film with a one-word title won Best Picture? Let's see if I can recall them off the top of my head:
WINGS
CIMARRON
REBECCA
CASABLANCA
HAMLET
GIGI
OLIVER!
PATTON
ROCKY
AMADEUS
PLATOON
UNFORGIVEN
ARGO
I'm sure I've forgotten a few, so there must be more.
#97
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You forgot the very mediocre "Crash."
#98
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Not to pile on Johan Hill -both performances were deserving - but that's just stunning. More so when you see that Redford's sole acting nod was for The Sting which, while a very good movie, wasn't nearly as good acting work as a large number of his 70s work like The Candidate, The Way We Were or Three Days of the Condor. Heck, I love The Sting, but think his work in it isn't as deserving of a nomination as Newman's or even Shaw's.