Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
#676
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#677
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
Yeah, if the next movie were to have Indy be the same age as Ford will be during shooting, it would take place around 1976!
#678
DVD Talk Legend
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
My grandpa at 80 years old was working harder than anyone else I've known who were half his age. He'd get up at 4am to get to work and wouldn't stop until dark every day, 7 days a week. Building fences, repairing the barn, working with the cattle, working with the horses (including breaking them to ride), cutting down trees, bailing hay, and whatever else that needed to be done on both his own ranch and the ranch of the guy he worked for.
#679
DVD Talk Legend
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
I'll lose major respect for Spielberg if he does this. If you think the outrage for Star Wars and Ghostbusters was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet if you think this okay.
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
#680
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
I'll lose major respect for Spielberg if he does this. If you think the outrage for Star Wars and Ghostbusters was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet if you think this okay.
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
Regardless, this originates from The Sun. So take it with a grain of salt.
#681
DVD Talk Hero
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
To be clear I have nothing against women in starring roles (the new Tomb Raider was a film in a similar vein that was quite fun) but I hate anytime that franchises try and shoehorn a change like that in place. I get wanting to continue on the name value but no one knows an Indiana Joan character. Just come up with something original or spin-off a character rather than making it so forced. It just comes off as desperation to appease social groups but piggybacking off of something that’s successful because of a guy. Hopefully it never happens.
#682
DVD Talk Legend
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
I'll lose major respect for Spielberg if he does this. If you think the outrage for Star Wars and Ghostbusters was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet if you think this okay.
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
#683
Moderator
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
I hope he does it! Nothing entertains me more than watching you guys freak out over this shit.
#685
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
I don't mind gender swaps if done right.
Ghostbusters remake sucked ass, but the genderswap wasn't the issue.
Though in Indiana Jones case, swapping to a woman may end up making it feel too much like Tomb Raider.
Ghostbusters remake sucked ass, but the genderswap wasn't the issue.
Though in Indiana Jones case, swapping to a woman may end up making it feel too much like Tomb Raider.
#686
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
To be clear I have nothing against women in starring roles (the new Tomb Raider was a film in a similar vein that was quite fun) but I hate anytime that franchises try and shoehorn a change like that in place. I get wanting to continue on the name value but no one knows an Indiana Joan character. Just come up with something original or spin-off a character rather than making it so forced. It just comes off as desperation to appease social groups but piggybacking off of something that’s successful because of a guy. Hopefully it never happens.
#688
DVD Talk Hero
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
“We’d have to change the name from Jones to Joan. And there would be nothing wrong with that,”
Umm...
Umm...
#689
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
I did always think that Tomb Raider was essentially a female Indiana Jones. I never had a problem with it. In fact, I enjoyed the Jolie Tomb Raider films but have yet to see the new one. The Mummy movies also always gave me an Indy vibe .
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#691
DVD Talk Reviewer
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
A team of female Ghostbusters makes enough sense, in theory. A female Indiana Jones really doesn't.
Just make a new movie featuring a charismatic relic hunter, and maybe give her a whip.
Or ... yeah, hope for a Tomb Raider sequel. Alicia Vikander was actually pretty terrific.
Just make a new movie featuring a charismatic relic hunter, and maybe give her a whip.
Or ... yeah, hope for a Tomb Raider sequel. Alicia Vikander was actually pretty terrific.
#692
DVD Talk Gold Edition
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
I'll lose major respect for Spielberg if he does this. If you think the outrage for Star Wars and Ghostbusters was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet if you think this okay.
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
http://people.com/movies/steven-spie...indiana-jones/
Spielberg is and has been the MOST politically correct film director in Hollywood.
And you're right...fans would go FRICKIN' nuts if he tried to make the character of IJ female (Illinois Jones anyone?).
#693
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
Does Spielberg even have a say? Don't Disney own the film rights?
#694
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
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He's liberal for the most part, but "the MOST politically correct film director" in a town that has given us Michael Moore, Oliver Stone, Sean Penn and Spike Lee (among many others)? I strongly doubt that.
#695
DVD Talk Hero
re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
A team of female Ghostbusters makes enough sense, in theory. A female Indiana Jones really doesn't.
Just make a new movie featuring a charismatic relic hunter, and maybe give her a whip.
Or ... yeah, hope for a Tomb Raider sequel. Alicia Vikander was actually pretty terrific.
Just make a new movie featuring a charismatic relic hunter, and maybe give her a whip.
Or ... yeah, hope for a Tomb Raider sequel. Alicia Vikander was actually pretty terrific.
Also to me it kind of comes off like hurting that cause because it’s like you’re saying those groups can’t make something popular on their own without having to follow in the footsteps of something established by someone who in this case is both male and white.
#696
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To me, politically correct is playing it safe for fear of offending someone.
A female action hero/archaeologist/treasure hunter? Awesome! But...we already have Lara Croft. But yeah, another one in that archetype, cool. But why not just create a whole new franchise then?
A continuation of the Indiana Jones saga featuring the daughter or granddaughter of Indiana Jones? Cool. Just don't try to shoe horn her name as being Indiana Jones too.
Simply changing the gender of the character...that's stupid. But then again, I think it's dumb to continue the franchise. The swagger that Harrison Ford brought to the role is what made the character work. You swap him out for Magnum P.I. or Alden Ehrenreich and it's not the same character.
Also to me it kind of comes off like hurting that cause because it’s like you’re saying those groups can’t make something popular on their own without having to follow in the footsteps of something established by someone who in this case is both male and white.
It can come off as gimmicky.
I mean, it depends.
If for example, Eon Productions announces the next James Bond will be black, it will come across as a gimmick to me. And if they cast a black Pierce Brosnan type, worse.
But if they simply have a script, and it's business as usual, and Idris Elba ended up auditioning and winning the role, against other white actors, I'll be like yeah! that's something different but it makes sense. Elba does come across as very 007-ish. I can see it.
Last edited by brayzie; 04-06-18 at 05:14 PM.
#697
DVD Talk Gold Edition
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No one in Hollywood tells SS "No."
You have that backwards.
That's EXACTLY what it means:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness
#699
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
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Okay, so if Politically Correct means playing it safe, he's pretty safe these days with Lincoln, Bridge of Spies and The Post. But it wasn't that long ago he made Amistad, Munich, Minority Report and War of the Worlds and those didn't play it nearly as safe (excluding the ending of War of the Worlds, of course).
I think a lot of filmmakers mellow as they enter their Seventies and become less confrontational and controversial. I wouldn't hold that too much against him. Now Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, on the other hand....
I think a lot of filmmakers mellow as they enter their Seventies and become less confrontational and controversial. I wouldn't hold that too much against him. Now Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, on the other hand....
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re: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023, D: Mangold) S: Ford - News, rumors, etc.
Fuck this. Fuck you Spielberg. There is no way in hell you would do this, but the mere fact that you are willing and able to toss that out in a conversation ... I don't know if you think you are being cute or funny, but fuck you. The last bit of good will was used up on the fucking abomination you delivered the last time. You have no respect left for the property, so just fuck off and let somebody who cares step in.
You can try to claim this is a sexist rant, but it is not. It is about disrespect for the property. If he wants to make Tomb Raider, go make Tomb Raider. He wiped his ass once on the series, this is just uncalled for.
(Sorry, somebody pissed in my Wheaties today.)
You can try to claim this is a sexist rant, but it is not. It is about disrespect for the property. If he wants to make Tomb Raider, go make Tomb Raider. He wiped his ass once on the series, this is just uncalled for.
(Sorry, somebody pissed in my Wheaties today.)





