X-Men: Apocalypse (D: Singer; May 27th, 2016)
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Yeah, I rewatched all the movies prior to seeing DoFP. X-Men: Origins: Wolverine is bad, but it at least has its moments, Last Stand however is nearly unwatchable. Shit from start to finish.
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I'm the juggernaut, bitch!
Not quite the Shakespearean "know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning?"
(Note - that toad line could have been pretty good/funny, but berry's delivery on it was abysmal)
Not quite the Shakespearean "know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning?"
(Note - that toad line could have been pretty good/funny, but berry's delivery on it was abysmal)
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On the other hand, "you're a dick" was a great line by Whedon.
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To be fair, the Juggernaut bitch line wasn't made up for the movie. It actually originated as a parody video based on the 90s animated series. Then they decided to reference it in X3 for whatever reason.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/im-the-juggernaut-bitch
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/im-the-juggernaut-bitch
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yep, I know the juggernaut meme, just stuck out like a sore thumb in the movie. Horrible decision to include it.
I actually do agree with whedon on the toad line (and i am far from a whedon apologist). Would it have been the line of the movie? Of course not. But it would have gotten a good chuckle and would not be looked back on as horrible. I always envisioned it improving with better timing as well:
"you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning?" THEN hit him with lightning, then storm dies down, look over the side of the building and say "Hmm, the same thing that happens to everything else." So if the timing is on whedon, then he gets some blame, too.
I actually do agree with whedon on the toad line (and i am far from a whedon apologist). Would it have been the line of the movie? Of course not. But it would have gotten a good chuckle and would not be looked back on as horrible. I always envisioned it improving with better timing as well:
"you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning?" THEN hit him with lightning, then storm dies down, look over the side of the building and say "Hmm, the same thing that happens to everything else." So if the timing is on whedon, then he gets some blame, too.
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (D: Singer; May 27th, 2016)
X2
X1
The Wolverine
First Class
The cartoon from the 1990s
Origins
Slamming your hand in the car door
X3
Agreed. X3 is so terrible by itself, but when you take into account just how good the previous two films had been, that it was the finale, and all of the potential it squandered, it's even worse.
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While X3 and Origins were the worst of the series, I still don't find them absolutely terrible or unwatchable and both have some good that come out of both of them. Of course i'm also on board the First Class is overrated train, so hanshotfirst's rankings are closer to mine with the exception of The Wolverine ahead of X1.
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Oh, what the hell.
The Wolverine
DoFP
X2
X1
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X3
First Class
I'm not saying X3 is a better film, but in terms of personal preference I would watch it over First Class. I just think FC is incredibly overrated.
The Wolverine
DoFP
X2
X1
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X3
First Class
I'm not saying X3 is a better film, but in terms of personal preference I would watch it over First Class. I just think FC is incredibly overrated.
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And don't forget, Alien: Resurrection sucked because of everyone involved except for Whedon.
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the Charles/Erik scenes in first class are some of the best scenes in any x-men movie. The Beast/Mystique stuff is decent.
But the rest of it - the other students, and especially anything involving Kevin Bacon and January Jones - is pretty damn bad.
I'd say:
X2
X1
DOFP
The Wolverine / First Class (couldn't decide)
Origins
X3
But the rest of it - the other students, and especially anything involving Kevin Bacon and January Jones - is pretty damn bad.
I'd say:
X2
X1
DOFP
The Wolverine / First Class (couldn't decide)
Origins
X3
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FC is a film of extremes. Great A+ moments to only be followed w/ crap moments. Erik and Charles alone make it so much better than X3. X3 was just crap drama.
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the Charles/Erik scenes in first class are some of the best scenes in any x-men movie. The Beast/Mystique stuff is decent.
But the rest of it - the other students, and especially anything involving Kevin Bacon and January Jones - is pretty damn bad.
I'd say:
X2
X1
DOFP
The Wolverine / First Class (couldn't decide)
Origins
X3
But the rest of it - the other students, and especially anything involving Kevin Bacon and January Jones - is pretty damn bad.
I'd say:
X2
X1
DOFP
The Wolverine / First Class (couldn't decide)
Origins
X3
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I wish the "Angel trying to cut out his wings" scene didn't happen in X3. That is an incredibly poignant and moving scene. Followed by his escape from the lab, which is just awesome. Too bad the rest of the movie is garbage.
My ranking:
DOFP
X2
First Class
The Wolverine
X1
X3
Origins
There's a pretty wide gap between X1 and X3.
My ranking:
DOFP
X2
First Class
The Wolverine
X1
X3
Origins
There's a pretty wide gap between X1 and X3.
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Re: X-Men: Apocalypse (D: Singer; May 27th, 2016)
X-Men First Class, a movie celebrated simply for not being directed by Brett Ratner.
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Not to mention his existence in X3 means we probably don't get angel in any movie involving apocalypse. angel/archangel was always one of my favorite arcs from the comics.
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I KNOW! It was so awesome. Fuck. Even if Angel wasn't with them at the time, it was still awesome to see him become Archangel in the animated series. I fucking loved it when he'd come back for an episode in that show. He was just really cool looking.
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'X-Men: Apocalypse': Rose Byrne returning as Moira MacTaggert -- Exclusive
Last week, Bryan Singer announced that 2016’s X-Men: Apocalypse will reintroduce Jean Grey, Cyclops, and Storm to the mutant superteam franchise. Now, EW can exclusively reveal that Apocalypse will feature the return trip for another franchise player: Rose Byrne’s Moira MacTaggert, the CIA agent and Professor X love interest introduced in 2011’s First Class.
“She’s a significant character in the movie,” says Apocalypse writer Simon Kinberg, returning to the franchise after Days of Future Past. “We ended First Class with Charles having wiped portions of her memory of her experience with the X-Men. They are, essentially, strangers to her when she meets them.” Apocalypse is set in the early ’80s, roughly 20 years after First Class, and Kinberg is mum about how she ties into the film. But expect to see further developments in her interaction with Professor Xavier. “It’s certainly a rich relationship that we started to dig into in First Class, and would like to mine more in this one,” teases Kinberg.
When he spoke to EW on Friday afternoon, Kinberg was preparing to hop a plane back from Montreal, where pre-production has begin in earnest for Apocalypse. Although details of the film remain tightly sealed, Kinberg does allow that it’s intended as an endpoint for certain First Class-era character arcs. “This movie is the completion of the first arcs of Charles, Eric, Raven, and Hank, who are essentially our main characters,” he explains. “They’re such young actors and young characters, so there’s a lot more story to tell. But as a first phase of their lives, there is this feeling of closure by the end of the movie.”
And also a feeling of nostalgia: Kinberg sounds rhapsodic talking about the 1980s setting of Apocalypse. “That’s the era that I grew up in,” he says. “The music, the fashion, the videogames: We really want to integrate all of that in the movie, and have it infuse the movie with a different vibe.” Does this mean they’ll finally find some room for disco clubkid Dazzler? “Could happen,” laughs Kinberg. “We’re certainly looking at mutants that would fit into the period.”
Kinberg is keeping busy with mutant superteams: He also wrote the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot. The film’s mysterious first teaser arrived early this week, breaking records as the most-watched trailer in 20th Century Fox’s history, beating out the previous record-holder: Days of Future Past. Kinberg is quick to stress how FF is different from the typical superhero movie.
“Part of what’s cool about the Fantastic Four comics is that there’s an emphasis on the science of science fiction,” says Kinberg. “And we treat what would normally be considered a superpower as a trauma. They don’t just go up a roof, jump off, and start swinging through the city. It’s the opposite. What would happen if your body transformed, and you didn’t have control over it?”
Rumors persist that the Fantastic Four franchise will ultimately intersect with X-Men—both franchises come from 20th Century Fox. But that wasn’t the concept of this first film. “The reboot of FanFour really needed to work in and of itself,” he says. “We were doing something pretty radical with the tone of the movie.” Still, the opportunity for a crossover is there. “If we wanted to find a way to connect them to the X-Men, we could,” says the writer. “There’s a lot of precedent from the comics.”
And although the trailer only hinted at the presence of iconic baddie Doctor Doom, Kinberg makes it clear that he’s as central to the film as the titular heroes. “He has aspirations and struggles that are a little bit more classically tragic than the other characters,” he explains. “As much as it’s an origin story of our heroes, it also tracks how someone can become a villain.”
Last week, Bryan Singer announced that 2016’s X-Men: Apocalypse will reintroduce Jean Grey, Cyclops, and Storm to the mutant superteam franchise. Now, EW can exclusively reveal that Apocalypse will feature the return trip for another franchise player: Rose Byrne’s Moira MacTaggert, the CIA agent and Professor X love interest introduced in 2011’s First Class.
“She’s a significant character in the movie,” says Apocalypse writer Simon Kinberg, returning to the franchise after Days of Future Past. “We ended First Class with Charles having wiped portions of her memory of her experience with the X-Men. They are, essentially, strangers to her when she meets them.” Apocalypse is set in the early ’80s, roughly 20 years after First Class, and Kinberg is mum about how she ties into the film. But expect to see further developments in her interaction with Professor Xavier. “It’s certainly a rich relationship that we started to dig into in First Class, and would like to mine more in this one,” teases Kinberg.
When he spoke to EW on Friday afternoon, Kinberg was preparing to hop a plane back from Montreal, where pre-production has begin in earnest for Apocalypse. Although details of the film remain tightly sealed, Kinberg does allow that it’s intended as an endpoint for certain First Class-era character arcs. “This movie is the completion of the first arcs of Charles, Eric, Raven, and Hank, who are essentially our main characters,” he explains. “They’re such young actors and young characters, so there’s a lot more story to tell. But as a first phase of their lives, there is this feeling of closure by the end of the movie.”
And also a feeling of nostalgia: Kinberg sounds rhapsodic talking about the 1980s setting of Apocalypse. “That’s the era that I grew up in,” he says. “The music, the fashion, the videogames: We really want to integrate all of that in the movie, and have it infuse the movie with a different vibe.” Does this mean they’ll finally find some room for disco clubkid Dazzler? “Could happen,” laughs Kinberg. “We’re certainly looking at mutants that would fit into the period.”
Kinberg is keeping busy with mutant superteams: He also wrote the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot. The film’s mysterious first teaser arrived early this week, breaking records as the most-watched trailer in 20th Century Fox’s history, beating out the previous record-holder: Days of Future Past. Kinberg is quick to stress how FF is different from the typical superhero movie.
“Part of what’s cool about the Fantastic Four comics is that there’s an emphasis on the science of science fiction,” says Kinberg. “And we treat what would normally be considered a superpower as a trauma. They don’t just go up a roof, jump off, and start swinging through the city. It’s the opposite. What would happen if your body transformed, and you didn’t have control over it?”
Rumors persist that the Fantastic Four franchise will ultimately intersect with X-Men—both franchises come from 20th Century Fox. But that wasn’t the concept of this first film. “The reboot of FanFour really needed to work in and of itself,” he says. “We were doing something pretty radical with the tone of the movie.” Still, the opportunity for a crossover is there. “If we wanted to find a way to connect them to the X-Men, we could,” says the writer. “There’s a lot of precedent from the comics.”
And although the trailer only hinted at the presence of iconic baddie Doctor Doom, Kinberg makes it clear that he’s as central to the film as the titular heroes. “He has aspirations and struggles that are a little bit more classically tragic than the other characters,” he explains. “As much as it’s an origin story of our heroes, it also tracks how someone can become a villain.”