What if Episode II Were Good?
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But it was rushed, and the turn scene was horrendous and not believable at all. That scene was the key to the WHOLE trilogy, and it was over within a blink of the eye! I remember my friends said in the theater after the turn scene, "We waited all these year for that?" You essentially had Anakin turn to the darkside in 5 seconds, and then he goes and slaughters all the jedi because Palpatine MIGHT have a way to save Padme from dying, even though he has been deceiving the Jedi for the last 10 years?
The last hour of ROTS is just a checklist of scenes that Lucas had to show to get to Episode IV, but nothing is fleshed out. And then Padme losing the will to live was one of the worst decisions and totally contradicted her character who was supposed to be this strong and resilent female she played in Episode I & II.
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What if grandma had balls? Would she be grandpa?
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10 years later and people still bitching about the movies. Let me guess, he has a video ready to say how Han not shooting first altered the entire story. I heard there is some factual errors in 1933's King Kong. Better get a video ready for that one. I just wonder why Star Wars fans aren't held in high reguards by the rest of the world....oh yeah, they never let shit go. Here's hoping that in 2050 there are still anti-prequel video's being made.
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10 years later and people still bitching about the movies. Let me guess, he has a video ready to say how Han not shooting first altered the entire story. I heard there is some factual errors in 1933's King Kong. Better get a video ready for that one. I just wonder why Star Wars fans aren't held in high reguards by the rest of the world....oh yeah, they never let shit go. Here's hoping that in 2050 there are still anti-prequel video's being made.
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10 years later and people still bitching about the movies. Let me guess, he has a video ready to say how Han not shooting first altered the entire story. I heard there is some factual errors in 1933's King Kong. Better get a video ready for that one. I just wonder why Star Wars fans aren't held in high reguards by the rest of the world....oh yeah, they never let shit go. Here's hoping that in 2050 there are still anti-prequel video's being made.
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For those who missed it, this was the one for Episode I:
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And here's the new one:
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I know we had a thread here before for the first one but I couldn't find it. If mods or anybody else have better luck, feel free to merge.
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And here's the new one:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/JAbug3AhYmw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I know we had a thread here before for the first one but I couldn't find it. If mods or anybody else have better luck, feel free to merge.
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He was 19 at the start of Episode II, which makes him above legal age. He didn't slaughter the Tuskens until about halfway through the film, and even then, he wept over it. Anakin didn't want to be a murderer; he knew it was wrong, but let his grief and rage get the better of him. Palpatine played on Anakin's fears since they met; he was the real devil of the story.
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He was 19 at the start of Episode II, which makes him above legal age. He didn't slaughter the Tuskens until about halfway through the film, and even then, he wept over it. Anakin didn't want to be a murderer; he knew it was wrong, but let his grief and rage get the better of him. Palpatine played on Anakin's fears since they met; he was the real devil of the story.
The best he could realistically hope for is a booty call and nothing more.
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He was well below 19 when they met in Episode I. So even if he "grew up" (which he did), her best memory of him would be as a child and she treats him as such through the bulk of the movie. Second, he's still a mass murderer and he mainly complained about Obi Wan holding him back rather than the murder of an entire tribe. Their romance was laughable at best.
The best he could realistically hope for is a booty call and nothing more.
The best he could realistically hope for is a booty call and nothing more.
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Padme: Annie? My goodness, you've grown.
Anakin: So have you, grown more beautiful, for a senator I mean.
Padme: Annie, you'll always be that little boy I knew on Tatooine.
Yeah, Padme definitely comes across as a pedophile in AOTC.
Emma Watson may have grown up into a good looking woman, but in the back of my mind I still see her as 10 year old Hermoine Granger.
Anakin: So have you, grown more beautiful, for a senator I mean.
Padme: Annie, you'll always be that little boy I knew on Tatooine.
Yeah, Padme definitely comes across as a pedophile in AOTC.
Emma Watson may have grown up into a good looking woman, but in the back of my mind I still see her as 10 year old Hermoine Granger.
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Have you watched it? It's actually a pretty good "what if". It's not your typical fanboy george-raped-my-childhood whinefest. It's also different from redletter media's approach. I personally think his take on it is tons better than what we got. Especially changing Naboo to Alderaan? Makes that first planet destruction in the original movie have a more emotional punch if we had spent time there during the prequels.
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Yes I did. He did have some interesting ideas. I do like the Alderaan instead of Naboo bit. However, it still is a video complaining about movies 10+ years old that has been done to death. Big problem with his idea is that by the end of Episode 2, Anakin & Padme don't really have a relationship going besides being friends so he'd have to have them get married, get Padme pregnant & give birth & have Anakin turn to the dark side all in Ep3. Little too much for one movie.
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The idea of Darth Vader getting some ass always seemed off to me. We really didn't need to see it play out in the suck-quel trilogy.
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Exec-"There's only 2 action sequences in the whole thing?!?"
A bit off-topic, but I've been doing a little catch-up on the Clone Wars (CG) toons. Really liked what they've been doing with young Boba.
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The storyline he had for II was definetly interesting (Really loved how Lars was handled) but no way would that have been made into a film:
Exec-"There's only 2 action sequences in the whole thing?!?"
A bit off-topic, but I've been doing a little catch-up on the Clone Wars (CG) toons. Really liked what they've been doing with young Boba.
Exec-"There's only 2 action sequences in the whole thing?!?"
A bit off-topic, but I've been doing a little catch-up on the Clone Wars (CG) toons. Really liked what they've been doing with young Boba.