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12-15-14, 04:26 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Lol yeah they did but........I don't remember the Hank abuse in there. Mybe my mind just wouldn't except it.

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12-15-14, 04:27 PM

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Mark Waid killed off Ice in the 90s, then admitted it was "a mistake".

I expected better of Waid. The JLI got pooped on by later writers. Leave it to the creators of JLI to make good use of Waid's mistake and write a heartfelt scene. I just remembered they killed off Crimson Fox. Both of them. I liked them.

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The JLI concept encompasses the JL, JLI, JLA, and JLE titles when they was under creative control of Giffen, DeMatteis, etc. And then there was that abysmal period when DC gave Gerard Jones keys to the kingdom to almost every major title he wanted. Eesh.

Oh yeah, I forgot that JLE was written by the same team as JLI. Was Gerard Jones right after them? I think I read some of the issues from that era. Very, very average.

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Unbelievable right? Hey but if it makes the male protagonist that much of a stronger character, butcher his woman!

It would have been bad enough had it been his wife, but Katma Tui was a hero and her own character before she even got with Stewart. Some BS. I do like her replacement though.

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Supergirl's death wasn't WiR-symptomatic (although I still think it was a bad idea, as well as getting rid of the Superboy history and wrecking the Legion, but that's neither here nor there) but it sent the wrong message to editorial. First Supergirl, then Batgirl, then Black Canary, Power Girl, Katma Tui, etc.

Good point. I suppose if you were fan of superheroines at the time, DC was not the place to go. Even Wonder Woman as written by Perez makes women look weak. Wonder Woman is supposed to be like a female He-Man but in her own book Zeus says he wants to give her the honor of sleeping with him and she responds with some like, "but...but...I've been to America and I've learned that these things need to be consensual. I can't." smh

Zeus makes her go to Hell to fight a horde of monsters as punishment, and she's so weak, she needs to get armored up. Then there's the whole Amazon retcon that's also ridiculous.

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12-15-14, 04:30 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

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In the 80s, Marvel did the whole thing with Karen Page (Daredevil's girl) getting addicted to drugs. She started making porno too. She ended up selling Daredevil's secret identity just to get her drug fix. Then she was killed by Bullseye. (Bullseye also killed Elektra too so that's two female characters he has killed.)

I always thought that was stupid for Bullseye to kill Karen Page as well. I guess since Elektra got resurrected they wanted Bullseye to remain the murderer of one of Matt's loves.

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12-15-14, 04:57 PM

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Lol yeah they did but........I don't remember the Hank abuse in there. Mybe my mind just wouldn't except it.

The Hank abuse wasn't in Ultimatum. It happened in the first Ultimate series.

Here are some scans I found. Spoiler for size.

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Basically, Janet was insulting him, calling him useless, and stuff. Then Hank beats the crap out of her for it. She turns into Wasp form, and he sprays her with bug spray.

Then he gets his Ant-Man helmet and summons some ants to bite her while she is in Wasp form.

I hope this scene makes it into the MCU movie.

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Wonder Woman is supposed to be like a female He-Man but in her own book Zeus says he wants to give her the honor of sleeping with him

That's especially creepy because in the New 52, Wonder Woman is a daughter of Zeus.

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12-15-14, 05:00 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

If Zeus gives you the honor of sleeping with him you take off your knickers and commence to jam.

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12-15-14, 05:31 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

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That's especially creepy because in the New 52, Wonder Woman is a daughter of Zeus.

Zeus' wife, Hera, is his sister. So that's par for the course with that family.

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12-15-14, 06:30 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

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I hope this scene makes it into the MCU movie.

I'm hoping THIS scene makes it into one of the movies:

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12-15-14, 06:38 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

I've always wonder as to what the fuck Janet was going to do to Hank. I can imagine what Hank was doing to Janet but I can't imagine wtf Janet was going to do.

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12-15-14, 06:45 PM

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This scene needs to be in the next Spider-Man movie.

Spoiler:

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12-16-14, 07:33 AM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

My major concern there is why didn't his Spidey sense go off?

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12-16-14, 08:00 AM

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My major concern there is why didn't his Spidey sense go off?

Why would it? Spider-sense only warns him of danger, and that situation may be embarrassing but it's not dangerous.

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12-16-14, 08:04 AM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

With Spidey it's all subjective...

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12-16-14, 01:49 PM

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Why would it? Spider-sense only warns him of danger, and that situation may be embarrassing but it's not dangerous.

This answer says more about you than about Spider-man.

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12-16-14, 02:11 PM

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With Spidey it's all subjective...

Is that Misty Knight?

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12-16-14, 03:18 PM

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This answer says more about you than about Spider-man.

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12-16-14, 09:54 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Hoping for this one ...

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01-09-15, 01:00 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

There's now a rumor that Batman v Superman is going to be broken into TWO parts, with PART I coming out THIS October, and PART II coming in March of 2016.

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01-09-15, 01:02 PM

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There's now a rumor that Batman v Superman is going to be broken into TWO parts, with PART I coming out THIS October, and PART II coming in March of 2016.

"Enter the Knight" sounds like a solo Batman movie with a new origin or something. Then "Dawn of Justice" would be the Bats/Supes meeting.

October of this year sounds too close though with this being the first we are hearing of this. I wonder if maybe "Enter the Knight" is an animated movie or something and not live-action.

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01-09-15, 01:09 PM

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

im kind of digging that approach... its better because that would be good for a story that big

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01-09-15, 01:09 PM

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Well, except that home video releases come on Tuesday, and those are both Friday dates. Plus, from the graphic above, it's definitely "Batman v Superman Part I" and "Batman v. Superman Part II".

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01-09-15, 01:15 PM

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Well, except that home video releases come on Tuesday, and those are both Friday dates. Plus, from the graphic above, it's definitely "Batman v Superman Part I" and "Batman v. Superman Part II".

Animated movies get theatrical releases too.

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01-09-15, 01:44 PM

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October isn't too soon. March of 2016 was too far away to begin with. We've been talking about this so long and there's STILL OVER A YEAR left before it comes out. They'd be smart to get this out somehow this year. As for the quality... well...