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The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
#78
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
Eh.
Let's see in the last 10 years:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
Once Upon a Time in Mexico (2003)
...And They Lived Happily Ever After (2004)
Secret Window (2004)
The Libertine (2004)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
Corpse Bride (2005)
Pirates of the Caribbean: DMC
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
Public Enemies (2009)
Alice in Wonderland (2010)
The Tourist (2010)
The Rum Diary (2011)
Rango (2011)
The Rum Diary (2011)
21 Jump Street (2012)
Dark Shadows (2012)
He was awesome in Pirates of the Caribbean and Once Upon a Time in Mexico - solid in Public Enemies, Libertine, Finding Neverland, Secret Window, Sweeney Todd and Rum Diary - and worthless in Charlie and Alice.
That really isn't all that bad. He was well suited to the role in Dark Shadows and played it fine, the movie just sucked ass. Never actually saw The Tourist.
The dude has always played off-beat quirky characters, Pirates was huge so they're milking that. Alice was an all around, billion dollar grossing miscalculation. The rest seems negligible.
His reign as the Disney/Burton money maker will come to an end after this does poorly and Pirates 5 is "soft". He should be back to making internet geekdom fan movies by the time he's 52. Unless Transcendence turns out really well, then 50.
Let's see in the last 10 years:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
Once Upon a Time in Mexico (2003)
...And They Lived Happily Ever After (2004)
Secret Window (2004)
The Libertine (2004)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
Corpse Bride (2005)
Pirates of the Caribbean: DMC
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
Public Enemies (2009)
Alice in Wonderland (2010)
The Tourist (2010)
The Rum Diary (2011)
Rango (2011)
The Rum Diary (2011)
21 Jump Street (2012)
Dark Shadows (2012)
He was awesome in Pirates of the Caribbean and Once Upon a Time in Mexico - solid in Public Enemies, Libertine, Finding Neverland, Secret Window, Sweeney Todd and Rum Diary - and worthless in Charlie and Alice.
That really isn't all that bad. He was well suited to the role in Dark Shadows and played it fine, the movie just sucked ass. Never actually saw The Tourist.
The dude has always played off-beat quirky characters, Pirates was huge so they're milking that. Alice was an all around, billion dollar grossing miscalculation. The rest seems negligible.
His reign as the Disney/Burton money maker will come to an end after this does poorly and Pirates 5 is "soft". He should be back to making internet geekdom fan movies by the time he's 52. Unless Transcendence turns out really well, then 50.
#79
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
Didn't say there was, but he isn't completely slumming it either.
#81
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
#82
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
Why did Disney even bother calling this "the Lone Ranger" when it's painfully obvious from the marketing that it's all about Tonto? Might as well have called it "Johnny Depp plays the same damn quirky character for the 275th Time".
I like Armie Hammer but it just seems like he got the short end of the stick here next to Tim Burton's real wife.
I like Armie Hammer but it just seems like he got the short end of the stick here next to Tim Burton's real wife.
#83
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
When I first heard about this coming out I figured Depp was the title character.
Either way, it'll most likely make big money, crap or not. I asked my wife if she wanted to see it and mentioned it was getting bad reviews. Her response? "Yeah but it's Johnny Depp."
Women.
Either way, it'll most likely make big money, crap or not. I asked my wife if she wanted to see it and mentioned it was getting bad reviews. Her response? "Yeah but it's Johnny Depp."
Women.
#84
DVD Talk Legend
#86
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
#87
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
Currently at 26% on RT, but even some of the fresh reviews don't inspire much excitement in seeing it:
- ... not so bad a companion piece to the better-and-better Rango as initially feared.
- In the end, The Lone Ranger is one hot mess -- an entertaining one, to be sure, but still a mess.
- There's an "everything and the kitchen sink" overkill in the story. ... Verbinski manages to keep it all reined in, barely.
- Somewhere in there is an entertaining film, but The Lone Ranger stretches your patience mightily.
- ... not so bad a companion piece to the better-and-better Rango as initially feared.
- In the end, The Lone Ranger is one hot mess -- an entertaining one, to be sure, but still a mess.
- There's an "everything and the kitchen sink" overkill in the story. ... Verbinski manages to keep it all reined in, barely.
- Somewhere in there is an entertaining film, but The Lone Ranger stretches your patience mightily.
#88
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
I actually liked Public Enemies and did not find it boring at all. But that was not because of Depp, more because of Mann. I thought it was a very well crafted film, like a 1930's version of Heat. Instead of focusing on the domestic lives of the cop & the criminal like Heat, it instead focuses on the celebrity status of these 2 individuals given to them by the media and the public at large. The #1 problem with the film is that Depp & Bale are very one-dimensional so the film relies more on style than substance.
#89
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
Transformers 3 is also right up there, especially that incredibly slow and dull first 70-80 minutes.
#90
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
I am quite amazed at how they could let another Lone Ranger movie suck after the debacle of the early 80s. I thought that would serve as a good warning.
#91
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
I wonder how long it'll take to forget the current flop and make yet another one.
#93
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They had shows starting last evening and it took in about $2 million. The numbers I'm reading are around a 5-day estimate of $50 million. The production + marketing budget is probably at least $300 million.
#94
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http://deadspin.com/you-should-absol...nger-635037780
...............I think The Lone Ranger is gonna be compared to Wild Wild West a lot because they're both Westerns, both action-comedies, and both wretched. (Also, they may both be commercial disappointments.) But what they most have is common is that they follow the same, overconfident formula, which leads to total disaster. WWW was made by the team that had such big success with Men in Blackstar Will Smith and director Barry Sonnenfeldand they assumed that if a sci-fi mismatched-buddy-comedy worked, you could do the exact same thing in the Old West. Except Men in Black was really funny, and WWW really wasn't.
That's The Lone Ranger's problem, too. Star Johnny Depp, director Gore Verbinski, and producer Jerry Bruckheimer all teamed up for the first three Pirates of the Caribbean movies. They've essentially made another Pirates but as a Western: Depp once again dresses up in makeup and plays a "kooky" character, and there are lots of extravagant set pieces, broad humor, and an ungodly running time. (The movie is 150 minutes long, which is still shorter than two of the three Pirates films they did together.) It's not so much that Depp and Hammer are Smith and Kline, but Lone Ranger sure is pleased with itself for the cleverness of its construction, which also sunk WWW. There are few things sadder than watching a bad, long, unfunny movie that seems to be high-fiving itself constantly because it thinks it's really fun and great.
Depp's performance as Tonto is more of the same shtick he's been doing for most of this century. He's not mimicking the flamboyant Jack Sparrow routine as much as he's going for the "I sure am quietly odd, aren't I?" bit that he used for Dark Shadows. I honestly don't know if Native American groups will get that annoyed by the portrayal: It's not that the performance is culturally insensitive so much as it's just a big, vague cartoon of a human being. What is pretty frightening is that this portrayal is Depp's idea of restoring honor to Tonto. I suppose it's good that Tonto doesn't run around scalping people and doing rain dances all the time, but Depp instead turns him into an "adorable" Charlie Chaplin-like figure whose straight-faced response to all the nuttiness around him is meant to suggest a heightened intelligence. It's condescending in its own way....................
...............I think The Lone Ranger is gonna be compared to Wild Wild West a lot because they're both Westerns, both action-comedies, and both wretched. (Also, they may both be commercial disappointments.) But what they most have is common is that they follow the same, overconfident formula, which leads to total disaster. WWW was made by the team that had such big success with Men in Blackstar Will Smith and director Barry Sonnenfeldand they assumed that if a sci-fi mismatched-buddy-comedy worked, you could do the exact same thing in the Old West. Except Men in Black was really funny, and WWW really wasn't.
That's The Lone Ranger's problem, too. Star Johnny Depp, director Gore Verbinski, and producer Jerry Bruckheimer all teamed up for the first three Pirates of the Caribbean movies. They've essentially made another Pirates but as a Western: Depp once again dresses up in makeup and plays a "kooky" character, and there are lots of extravagant set pieces, broad humor, and an ungodly running time. (The movie is 150 minutes long, which is still shorter than two of the three Pirates films they did together.) It's not so much that Depp and Hammer are Smith and Kline, but Lone Ranger sure is pleased with itself for the cleverness of its construction, which also sunk WWW. There are few things sadder than watching a bad, long, unfunny movie that seems to be high-fiving itself constantly because it thinks it's really fun and great.
Depp's performance as Tonto is more of the same shtick he's been doing for most of this century. He's not mimicking the flamboyant Jack Sparrow routine as much as he's going for the "I sure am quietly odd, aren't I?" bit that he used for Dark Shadows. I honestly don't know if Native American groups will get that annoyed by the portrayal: It's not that the performance is culturally insensitive so much as it's just a big, vague cartoon of a human being. What is pretty frightening is that this portrayal is Depp's idea of restoring honor to Tonto. I suppose it's good that Tonto doesn't run around scalping people and doing rain dances all the time, but Depp instead turns him into an "adorable" Charlie Chaplin-like figure whose straight-faced response to all the nuttiness around him is meant to suggest a heightened intelligence. It's condescending in its own way....................
#95
#96
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
Heh, true. Well, I thought it wasn't bad. But don't people on the Movie forum suck William Fichtner's dick? As such, I'm surprised there's no support for him.
#97
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The Lone Ranger (Verbinski, 2013) The Reviews Thread
This will probably bomb the way John Carter did, except that when folks actually saw John Carter, came back and reported that the film was actually pretty good. It was a film that was done in by atrocious marketing. The Lone Ranger seems to be getting done in, because it's a bad film, with stellar marketing.
Looks like Disney will be 2 for 2.
Looks like Disney will be 2 for 2.
#98
DVD Talk Hero
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John Carter didn't get a 51% (61% audience) rating and wind up on numerous worst-of-the-year lists from faulty advertising.
But it's good you enjoyed it.
Lone Ranger is a bad movie advertised accurately.
But it's good you enjoyed it.
Lone Ranger is a bad movie advertised accurately.
#100
Senior Member