Very pervy mother.

Apparently Snyder cut like an hour from the movie, so maybe a DC could rectify what a few people don't like about it.

Okay, I liked the vast majority of this movie. Really liked the cast and performances, LOVED the added Kryptonian/sci-fi elements, action scenes looked great, and I liked the storyline and pacing.

I was missing Williams' score---to me that's as iconic as the music for James Bond or Star Wars, and should have been in there.

My other gripe, as has been mentioned, is that...

Good to know.

I was all in on all that stuff so I assume everything that was cut is what I wanted and was deemed unnecessary.

The EW article is pathetic. Superman made the only choice he could to save the people of Earth. The phantom drive was gone, so there was no returning him to the Zone. They were on equal footing, with Kal trying desperately just to hold him still. Putting his hand in front of Zod's eyes would've incinerated it, and he begged him to stop his rampage. He didn't want to do it, and he hated himself afterwards...which shows how deep his moral character really goes. By contrast, Batman left Ghul on that train to die without a second thought, not even trying to get him jailed outside Gotham.

Suck a dick, Avengers.

I didn't realize the June openings were traditionally smaller than May/July. It'll be hard pressed to match TS3's road to 400m+, but hopefully it can hold on for 350 / 800 worldwide... great for a relaunch!

That was my initial reaction as well... "oh look, flying dildoes!"


The death of Zod, in and of itself, didn't trouble me as much as the ridiculous set up for it. Supes could snap Zod's neck, but couldn't simply turn Zod's head away from the people he was about to fry? Also, it bothered my that Superman didn't seem to give a shit about destroying half of Metropolis - and potentially killing innocents - by fighting with Zod while smashing through buildings. Not that he was in complete control, but couldn't he have lured Zod away from a major population center?

Damnit!!! I wish Kal-El (who originally created this thread) would have made the poll visible to who voted. I want to know who voted where.

I voted good, not great.

I saw it as Supes still trying to control his powers, so he wouldn't have to kill Zod. He had him in a very tight grip, and one small move could've given Zod his chance at escape. It was almost like Kal was begging Zod not to put him in this situation, but the general wouldn't listen. So, to save everyone else, he made a tough and very painful choice.

Most of the people in the city fled when the energy beam got activated, so collateral damage would've been minimal.

No, Zod was determined to hurt Superman by making people suffer, so there was no way he was going to let him lure him outside the city. This wasn't a case like SUPERMAN II where Zod wanted to rule Earthlings...Zod wanted them all dead.

Superman snapping Zod's neck was him taking his strength up a level. Seeing the people threatened like that angered him to the point where he knew he had to kill in order to save them. It's essentially the moment where Superman becomes Superman. Before that, he's just kind of Superboy.

The Avengers did $207,438,708 in its opening weekend, far more than MoS' take. Not sure how that box office take translates to "Suck a dick, Avengers".

I knew you would reply to that.

I agree with the phallic images being pretty noticeable During the Phantom Zone sentencing, one of my kids giggled because the enclosures resembled penises. Doc Johnson products handled by Jenna Haze look less anatomically correct than those devices. (And the Phantom Zone is basically a space ship, right? Even the fifties Superman comics were more imaginative.)


What really gets to me is that I could live with all the problems and what we got if only the film lived up to what it promised...a realistic Superman in a real world. Screenwriter Goyer snubs what came before and boasts about how they were exploring realism, realism, realism...when in fact, nothing seems realistic because the human element and human reaction are lost. Did Goyer mean just mean realistic as in Superman creating a sonic boom when he flies super-fast? Or did he mean realistic as in how people would react to a super-powered alien being? Again, nobody on earth and especially the main characters seem to react as to what's happening around them outside of one or two Smallville citizens. Looks like Jonathan Kent was wrong: the world doesn't care less if an alien walks among them.

Lois is dragged onto an alien ship, given a weapon, meets a ghost/spirit/hologram/whatever, gets blasted off in a pod back to earth, and she accepts it as routine. A quick, "Ohmigod, what did I just go through?" would have been simple. (Even the Sandra Bullock character is allowed to fall silent and cry after getting off the bus in SPEED...Hell, even Kirk dramatically pauses [as always] and reflects on his decision for destroying the Enterprise in STAR TREK III.) At the very least, the military personnel should express more of a "no frikken way!!!!" reaction to meeting Faora for the first time, but they are as emotion-less as Will Smith and his stripper girlfriend having a domestic spat while GIANT SPACE SHIPS ARE HOVERING OUTSIDE in that God-awful movie INDEPENDENCE DAY.

Similarly, an alien ship is shaking up Metropolis' geography like Lego pieces and people for blocks around are still going about their business. We should have had at least one shot of massive evacuations.

I didn't expect this movie to be another Donner flick. I don't care if Superman kills or not if it fits the story and the charcter. But there was some awfully poor pacing and some goofy concepts (MATRIX-tentacles coming from nowhere, Jor-El guiding Lois to shoot Kryptonians, the whatever-the-hell genetic coding of all of Krypton's population implanted in Kal-El's cells (?!?!?!?) and much, much worse...the death of Jonathan Kent by...TORNADO!!!! I was in disbelief when I saw that. If a dog can run from the car to an underpass that fast, why can't Clark simply jog like a human to his dad and carry him to safety?) that really made a potentially good movie worse.

If these filmmakers weren't so damn pretentious in what they were trying to achieve, I would attribute the faults to just being run-of-the-mill for any superhero movie. But here, there is such an attitude of being as serious-as-cancer which demands higher standards in the execution.

Maybe it's better on a second viewing.

What the fuck are you talking about? People were losing their minds and running, screaming, from buildings.

I have a lot of the same sentiments. Overall though, I didn't care for this at all. I had to wait years to see Superman fly again on the big screen, and this is what I got. Very bummed. I thought about giving all of my thoughts, but honestly, I no longer care for this reboot. No hurry to see this headache again.

He does have a point. Financially The Avengers ain't sucking MoS's dick. Your comment doesn't make sense to the financial.

Of course it doesn't make sense. Trolling never does.

Ignoring the obvious troll, that is a great take for MoS.

Worldwide gross is now $196.6 million.

Words can't describe how disappointed I was with this movie. It is cold, soulless, and tedious to sit through. 3/4 of the way through you just want it to end because of the non-stop and monotonous assault on your senses. Batman is a dark character, Superman is not. He's a boy scout. Everything about Batman Begins worked, everything about this does not. And the ending is a joke!



Every fear I had when I heard Zack Snyder was directing this came through. The DGA needs to pull his union card.

To the financial what?

I meant in surrounding blocks. (I suppose it might explain why Grand Central Station was partly deserted at the end.)

Also: language, language...