Predator 2 vs. Predators
 

Let's put an end to this the two sequels of the Predator trilogy, a trilogy more dear to me than Alien AND Terminator and.... Robocop (lol), it all ENDS. Fucking....

P2
Pros:
Upkeeping the Predaverse and expanding it
Cool new Predatoys
The Hooker highrise scene
Similar music
New setting
Bill Paxton/Gary Busey together during their golden age

Cons:
Shit occurs for seemingly no reason
Predator turns into a pussy toward the end
Danny Glover?

Ps
Pros:
Interesting collection of commandos
The Pianist as lead was surprisingly OK as the lead proving you don't have to be a bulky dude to be cool

Cons:
Childish dialogue "you want to see something fucked up?" said by the chick no less.
Jungle retread
Morpheus sucks
No threat feel
Copying P1 too much

I guess whoever made P2 must have not really given a shit about Predator 1 while Robert "I'm going to honor Predator 1" Rodriguez ironically mezzedup.

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There are no pros with Predators.

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Damn, I thought this was going to be some sort of a sequel announcement. :lol:

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Predator 2 is a hot mess. But at least it tried to bring a little something new to the table, unlike Predators which was a damn near shot for shot rehash.

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Really? I enjoyed Predators. Sure, it wasn't as good as 1, but I rewatched Predator 2 recently, and it looks and feels like a made-for-TV movie.

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Predator 2 by a mile.

Not saying 2 was a good movie per say, but Predators was dreadful.

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I wanted to like Predators. But it lacked the sense of wonder. It just felt like another churned out project that someone had to make because some numbers were crunched and it someone wanted to have it made.

Predator 2 works for me because of it was ultra violent, and the urban warfare was cool to watch. A lot of the violence scared me when I was little. The movie was pretty hardcore.

Predator works because it's one of those classically directed action films. It's a tight little script. Arnie is in there. Everyone does what's right. The science fiction is very real and makes sense. And seeing the predator in action, on screen, when I was little, was a first-time experience.

Predators didn't bring anything new and fascinating. I don't know what the franchise could bring. I think it's dead. And was surprised when they started making it. It's only appeal was to see the Predators on the big screen again.

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Yep. Aside from some cool shots, it was a weak effort all around. And Brody is nooooo substitute for Arnie. The shots of him trying so hard to evoke Dutch were laughably bad.

Rodriguez and Nimrod had a great opportunity handed to them and they blew it majorly.

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Predators, but they're both shit. Predator 2 is such insipid, cliche-ridden tripe, I'm surprised people actually defend that thing.

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El Scorpio is ready

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The Predator scares an old couple watching Jeopardy! I don't know how you aren't seeing the value here.

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P2.

King Willie-trophy scene. 'nuff said.

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The sad part is that the original Predator never had a decent sequel made for it.

Both Alien and Terminator had at least one decent sequel each, so why has making a decent Predator sequel been so difficult to do?

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Neither one was very great but I suppose if I had to choose I'd say Predator 2.

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no arnold schwareniga = no sale

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Good point. We need James Cameron's "Predator [cool sounding sequel]"

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Really? What do you expect from a Predator movie? If they had set it in the city again would you have conned it for that?

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Predator 2 for sure. I saw Predators in theaters and liked it at first, but the more I reflected the more I realized it was nothing more than a muddled mess.

The first one still needs a proper BD that isn't DNR'd to shit.

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So you would only want Predator movies set in Jungles.

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Both were bad. Predator 2 was Ghostbusters 2 bad. Predators was Friday the 13th: A New Beginning bad.

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i liked Predators. so sue me!

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Where else do you propose a movie about master hunters to be set?

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I always wanted to see a Colonial Era Predator movie. However, they shouldn't have the stealth camo from the first two movies (or at least one that is nowhere near as effective) and a larger, less portable (no shoulder mounting) version of the plasma cannon.

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Like them both.

"Maybe I'll get lucky and fall."

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I think the idea of the Predator only working in the jungle is weak. It's a hunter. Hunters exist in various locales and adapt into the environments they've some reason to work in.

I might not like P2 but it has some cool ideas and neat moments. My favorite moment that stayed with me since I was a kid was watching the Predator get all medic on itself in that bathroom. That was a good scene. I don't mind Glover being the hero, not what you expected. Either way it horribly dates itself by trying to take place in the future. I'm not a fan of it but it has neat bits.

I like Predators more cuz well it's trying to remake Predator, cuz that dynamic rocked. It's biggest flaw is also that. There is no originality and it hits big cliches. I do like the cast a lot but could have done with less stereotyping of them. Sucks that Trejo went quickly. I like the core idea of a group of our predators getting take to the game world. Detest the Super Predators and Fishburne's character. 5 o'clock, bitch raping time. It's humor is good. I would love to see a sequel to this, it needs more of a budget to breath as well. Too much cgi for when a practical element could suffice. Again this film had cool ideas that were not executed properly. Be it in script or execution.

God, if Cameron was given this franchise? Fuck. That action would rock. Would get a great action script for it as well. Damnit. Now I want that. Get Shane Black to write and Cameron to direct.

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It doesn't ONLY work in the jungle, they obviously did one in the city with part 2. But where else do you set it? If the OP is going to ding a sequel for being set in the jungle a second time, then I have to assume he would be against setting it in the city for a second time. Hence my asking, where he would like it to be set.

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I'd pay good money to see Predator - Jersey Shore or Kardashians v. Predators ;)

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I agree with this. Recently rewatching it, I had better memories of Predator 2 than the movie deserved.

Also, Predators has one of the best "first images" of a movie I've ever seen.

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In the desert.

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Predators was an entire movie that kept saying "wasn't Predator awesome? Just constant references to a much better movie. A nod or too might have been cute, but it completely fails to stand on it's own. It feels like a fan film.

At least Predator 2 tried to do something different.

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Do you mean the intro?

Talking about it. That was a great way to introduce to the film.

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Yep - it starts very strong.

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Things I like about Predator 2: Danny Glover
Things I dislike about Predator 2: Danny Glover

Too much Danny Glover = not good.

Too little Danny Glover = not good.

Adrien Brody = bad.

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I thought Predators had potential and a few cool moments, but it was ultimately undone by it's constant need to reference the first movie.

That said, Predator 2 sucked. I'll never forget the first time I heard someone say they preferred it to the original. I thought my head was going to explode. Most of the time if someone disagrees with me I can usually see where they're coming from and even sympathize with their position, but Predator being better than Predator 2 was one one of those things I considered to be an absolute truth.

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'Predators' was watchable.

Even 'Sharktopus' is better than 'Predator 2'...

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it does if you watch it full screen.

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Predator 2, which is in the running for most underrated sequel ever made. Predators was horrible.

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I would take either one over the AVP movies but Predator 2 has Danny Glover. Danny Glover clearly proves that he is not in fact getting too old for that shit despite him going on and on about getting too old for the shit. Me? I say you're never too old for shit.*Jules hits submit reply as he shits.*

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I'm just going to vote for "Predator 2" because I didn't think "Predators" looked interesting enough (The jungle again? Please.)

I don't like "Predator 2" more than "Predator" (who could), but it brought a lot of interesting ideas to the table.

The ship being here for hundreds of years, the previously mentioned med-kit scene, the different vision modes, showing that Predators will not kill females *at all* (even attacking them).

The biggest thing I took from this movie is that the Predators were of different skill levels. Clearly the one in the original was a far more skilled hunter, as it took Ah-nuld to injure him. The city Predator was taken out by Danny Glover (who was a cop, not a elite military soldier), so his skills were obviously less.

Predator 2 added *something* to the mythos, while it sounds like "Predators" was a modern EFX love letter to the original.