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Old 05-03-13 | 01:41 PM
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Re: Summer 2013 Box Office Predictions Thread

Mega Hits - self explanatory

Iron Man 3 will take in 425 million domestic and It'll break a billion worldwide.
Monsters University will bring in 375 million and it will have legs. another over a billion worldwide

Big Hits - movies that made a good profit

Man of Steel - Could surprise and break 275 million and 900 million World wide
Pacific Rim - will break 300 million and have a huge world wide take 950 million. beginning of a trend?
Fast and the Furious 6 - 250 million domestic
This Is The End - 180 million domestic - probably the adult comedy of the summer.
Elysium - 170 million domestic will have legs into the fall and kick ass overseas

Not Too Shabby - Films that perform well but not as well as hoped - probably move alot of Blurays/DVDs/Rentals

Star Trek into Darkness - 200 Million and a healthy overseas tally but it may not perform as the studio hopes
The Heat - 140 million - 2nd place in the date night sweepstakes
RIPD - 160 million and a decent overseas take.
Old 05-03-13 | 02:35 PM
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Obviously, I think we're all in agreement that IRON MAN 3 is going to be the winner this summer. However, I think MAN OF STEEL is going to overperform and STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS is going to underperform, given early word about both films. Granted, they'll both open huge, but I think MAN OF STEEL is going to have some legs, while STAR TREK isn't going to get the repeat business of the fanboys.

IRON MAN 3 - $400 million
MAN OF STEEL - $325 million
STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - $275 million

I think both AFTER EARTH and WORLD WAR Z are going to tank, although they'll both have respectable openings.
Old 05-03-13 | 03:11 PM
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After Earth, The Lone Ranger, R.I.P.D., and World War Z are among the “most notable candidates” to join the ranks of “several high profile failures” from the major studios that Cowen and Co’s Doug Creutz predicts this morning. He worries Summer 2013 has “the most crowded release slate in recent memory” and could produce at least 8 underperformers. Creutz has been making these domestic predictions for 5 of the last seven years. Here is his latest studio-by-studio prognostications:

Disney is at risk, Creutz says. Although he agrees Iron Man 3 will be a hit and projects domestic box office of $350M, and Pixar’s Monsters University should do well to the tune of $250M. If Lone Ranger bombs it could “sustain the perception that Disney’s film studio has some serious problems away from the Marvel-Pixar axis.” He expects Lone Ranger to generate $120M domestically but says it’s “a strong contender for an early write-down.” Westerns typically don’t play well overseas, he notes, recalling how even Will Smith’s star power couldn’t save 1999′s Wild, Wild West.

The analyst also forecasts Paramount is “likely to have a one-up-one-down summer” with Star Trek Into The Darkness probably making $250M and World War Z nowhere near that. He predicts just $85M for World War Z, which “had a troubled production” forcing a delay from the original December 2012 release date. It’s also up against Man Of Steel, and he says ”buzz has been elusive for the film, as we think audience attention has been drawn to more well-known properties”. The analyst thinks this makes the zombie thriller “another likely candidate for a big write-down”.

Sony “has a lot riding on this summer’s results” but could be disappointed, Creutz says. After Earth ($80M) has the benefit of starring Will Smith, but the analyst notes director M. Knight Shyamalan “has had a string of box office misfires and outright disasters” including The Last Airbender. Meanwhile This Is The End ($75M) is one of the four adult comedies that has a shot at breaking out, but Creutz says ”the trailers are more odd than funny.” White House Down ($90M) may suffer because the premise — described as Die Hard at the White House — “feels a bit stale” after following several similar films. He says Grown Ups 2 ($125M) has some of comedy’s “most dependable box office stars” — Adam Sandler, Kevin James, David Spade, and Chris Rock — so the analyst gives it an edge vs the other adult comedies. And he warns that Smurfs 2 ($80M) “is coming at the tail end of a summer season that will likely already have seen four other higher quality animated films.”

Universal has “sure fire hits” with Fast & Furious 6 ($200M), and Despicable Me 2 ($250M), but Creutz is worried about R.I.P.D. ($50M). Although “anything can happen,” it has had “significant problems in production” and “appears to be an attempt to mimic the action-comedy success of Men In Black” and looks like “an enormous long shot.”

Fox is “in OK shape,” Creutz says. He believes toon Epic could see $100M domestically, but could miss the top 12 due to competition from Iron Man and Star Trek 2. Laugher The Internship ($70M) has a shot but the analyst says only one adult comedy is likely to be in the top dozen. The Heat ($70M) is one of the others, and has “a bit less star power.” And The Wolverine ($190M) is “likely to make the winner’s circle” if there isn’t “serious audience fatigue around auction films” in late July.

Creutz says Warner Bros is “best positioned of all the major studios” to have a strong summer and predicts $220M for successful Superman reboot Man Of Steel. He predicts The Great Gatsby could generate $150M domestically and “might” make the Top 12 as “one of the few films this summer not directed at kids or young men.” He thinks The Hangover Part III will gross $225M. He expects Pacific Rim to hit $150M, although he warned that audiences “might be relatively tired of action fare” by mid-July.

Creutz says Lionsgate is making “a bit of a strategic mistake” with Red 2 ($75M). Although the original movie in 2010 was a surprise hit, the sequel is “up against much higher-budget summer action fare” and will “probably mark the end of the franchise.” No matter: he says the film should do “tolerably well,” and points out Lionsgate has Catching Fire and Ender’s Game this fall.

He notes how DreamWorks Animation’s one entry, Turbo ($171M), is an event film and characterizes the studio as “regaining momentum” with the success of The Croods. But he worries the new toon also faces too much competition and will be sandwiched between Epic and Sony’s Smurfs 2.

Looking at data going back to 2001, the analyst notes that 12 films released from May through July typically account for 75% of the summer box office — which he expects will hit $3.65B, “essentially flat with 2012.” And the breakdown by genre has been consistent: Action/adventure films haven’t accounted for more than seven of the top 12, and no more than three animated films joined the group. That’s a problem. Studios have spent $100M+ apiece on 12 action/adventure spectacles (he includes Lionsgate’s Red 2 although it’s “arguably on the border” of qualifying) and five animated films for this summer. If history is a guide, ”at most nine of these are likely to achieve a level of box office success justifying their cost.”
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While some of the comments are genuine comments a lot of us had made in this thread, I don't see The Hangover Part III out grossing Fast & Furious 6. Fast & Furious 6 is coming off some of the best buzz the franchise has ever had whereas The Hangover Part II left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
Old 05-03-13 | 03:19 PM
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Except me. While nowhere near as funny as Hangover, I enjoyed Hangover 2 as a 1-time view. I also found Fast Five to be laughably bad.

I don't doubt what you're saying though, Hangover III will be lucky to crack $200m and Fast & Furious 6 will make serious bank.

After Earth will make around $76m, World War Z will probably crack $100m.

I'm adjusting my prediction of Pacific Rim up from $65m to $140m.

Lone Ranger will be the surprise of the summer and draw $225m.

R.I.P.D. will tank, and on opening weekend come in behind The Conjuring, Red 2, Turbo and hold overs Pacific Rim, The Lone Ranger and Despicable Me 2.

300: Rise of an Empire will tank, grossing a tiny fraction of 300s $200m US gross.
The Smurfs 2 will turn a tidy profit
Elysium will gross around $130m US.
Monsters University will pull $250m+
Kick-Ass 2 will do business on par with Kick-Ass
Man of Steel I'm upgrading to $250m
This is the End will pull about $80m
Planes will inexplicably make it to $200m+

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Old 05-03-13 | 03:30 PM
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Re: Summer 2013 Box Office Predictions Thread

Now that Iron Man 3 has bombed, I'm going to guess that Monsters University will be the biggest hit of the summer.
Old 05-03-13 | 03:32 PM
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Agreed.

(oh and I forgot it in my last post, Iron Man 3 wins the summer.)
Old 07-21-13 | 09:21 PM
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Re: Summer 2013 Box Office Predictions Thread

Interesting to see where we're at toward the end of July -- some big bombs this summer and not a lot of surprise hits. FF6 and Despicable Me 2 have to be pretty surprising so far...

1 Iron Man 3 $406,989,864
2 Man of Steel $285,021,000
3 Despicable Me 2 $276,159,000
4 Monsters University $248,998,000
5 Fast & Furious 6 Uni. $237,111,000
6 Star Trek Into Darkness $225,122,000
7 World War Z $186,941,000
8 The Great Gatsby $143,329,954
9 The Heat Fox $129,292,000
10 Now You See Me $114,440,000
Old 07-21-13 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Summer 2013 Box Office Predictions Thread

BoxOfficeMojo seems to have a different 2013 ranking to yours (unless you had just limited yours to summer releases).

1 Iron Man 3 $406,989,864
2 Man of Steel $285,021,000
3 Despicable Me 2 $276,159,000
4 Monsters University $248,998,000
5 Fast & Furious 6 $237,111,000
6 Oz The Great and Powerful $234,911,825
7 Star Trek Into Darkness $225,122,000
8 World War Z $186,941,000
9 The Croods $186,032,000
10 The Great Gatsby (2013) $143,329,954
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22 Grown Ups 2 $79,500,000

Really hoping Grown Ups 2 can crack the top 10 as it was easily my most enjoyable film experience(s) this year.
Old 07-21-13 | 09:40 PM
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Re: Summer 2013 Box Office Predictions Thread

Originally Posted by RichC2

Lone Ranger will be the surprise of the summer and draw $225m.
Sorry to single you out RichC2, but it had to be done.
Old 07-21-13 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cruzness
Pacific Rim - will break 300 million and have a huge world wide take 950 million. beginning of a trend?


Okay, this is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Old 07-21-13 | 09:52 PM
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Re: Summer 2013 Box Office Predictions Thread

Originally Posted by dan30oly
BoxOfficeMojo seems to have a different 2013 ranking to yours (unless you had just limited yours to summer releases).
Yes, I used BOM's Summer list only as that's what this thread is titled about, not the year overall...
Old 07-21-13 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Antipodean
Yes, I used BOM's Summer list only as that's what this thread is titled about, not the year overall...
fair enough

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Old 07-22-13 | 12:58 PM
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Wow. I was the only asshole who tagged Despicable Me 2 at over $300M.

Then again, I also said The Great Gatsby and World War Z would flop whereas The Lone Ranger and Pacific Rim would make $200M.

At least I got 13 films right and missed the mark on 7 films.
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Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Sorry to single you out RichC2, but it had to be done.
I was uh just guessing the budget?
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So now that the box office season is wrapping up, here's how I think everything came out.

Mega Hit (400+ mil)
Iron Man 3 - $407 mm

Genuine Hit
Despicable Me 2 - $340 mm
Man of Steel - $288 mm
Monsters University - $260 mm
Fast & Furious 6 - $238 mm
World War Z - $197 mm
The Heat - $153 mm
The Great Gatsby - $144 mm
Grown Ups 2 - $124 mm
Now You See Me - $115
This is the End - $96 mm

Should’ve Done Better
Star Trek Into Darkness - $226 mm
The Wolverine - $113 mm
Pacific Rim - $97 mm
Elysium

Break Even
The Hangover III - $112 mm
Epic - $107 mm

The little Indie That Could
The Conjuring - $121 mm
The Way, Way Back - $16 mm

Bomb
The Lone Ranger - $87 mm
Turbo - $75 mm
White House Down - $71 mm
After Earth - $60 mm
Red 2 - $49 mm
Smurfs 2 - $48 mm
The Internship - $44 mm
R.I.P.D. - $32 mm

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Re: Summer 2013 Box Office Predictions Thread

Originally Posted by richc2
lone ranger will be the surprise of the summer and draw $225m.

lolzerz
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To be fair, a few of those movies are still in the theater.
Old 08-14-13 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by resinrats
To be fair, a few of those movies are still in the theater.
Yes, but I think we know where they will end up. The Wolverine is Underperforming, Smurfs 2 is bombing and Elysium should've done better.
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Originally Posted by sauce07
So now that the box office season is wrapping up, here's how I think everything came out.

Mega Hit (400+ mil)
Iron Man 3 - $407 mm $1.2 billion

Genuine Hit
Despicable Me 2 - $340 mm $750 mm
Man of Steel - $288 mm $648 mm
Monsters University - $260 mm $637 mm
Fast & Furious 6 - $238 mm $782 mm
World War Z - $197 mm $502 mm
The Heat - $153 mm $198 mm
The Great Gatsby - $144 mm $330 mm
Grown Ups 2 - $124 mm $154 mm
Now You See Me - $115 $255 mm
This is the End - $96 mm $111 mm

Should’ve Done Better
Star Trek Into Darkness - $226 mm $452 mm
The Wolverine - $113 mm $307 mm
Pacific Rim - $97 mm $344 mm

Break Even
The Hangover III - $112 mm $350 mm
Epic - $107 mm $249 mm

The little Indie That Could
The Conjuring - $121 mm $168 mm
The Way, Way Back - $16 mm n/a

Bomb
The Lone Ranger - $87 mm $196 mm
Turbo - $75 mm $136 mm
White House Down - $71 mm $125 mm
After Earth - $60 mm $244 mm
Red 2 - $49 mm $93 mm
Smurfs 2 - $48 mm $157 mm
The Internship - $44 mm $75 mm
R.I.P.D. - $32 mm $56 mm
I always like to look at worldwide box office to give a more accurate take on how well a movie has done. As one can see, overseas box office really really adds to the overall tally for a movie.
Old 08-14-13 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
I always like to look at worldwide box office to give a more accurate take on how well a movie has done. As one can see, overseas box office really really adds to the overall tally for a movie.
This is true, but it's also true that when it comes to sequels, studios still - for the most part - pay much more attention to the domestic draw (for whatever reason).
Old 08-14-13 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Barth
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say World War Z is going to be a hit. It won't make back its budget but will be popular at the box office. Fast and Furious will do well also.
Man of Steel, After Earth, White House Down, Lone Ranger, and Grown Ups2 will dissapoint.
Hangover 3 is a wild card. Might do well but it all depends on the timing of release.
Just like any of these, release timing is critical, to many action movies released at the same time is bad, to many R rated movies on the same weekend is bad, and so on.
It's fun to look back on. I will say looking back on my quote it seems I was right for the most part. Everybody said World War Z would bomb but I thought otherwise. Fast and Furious did well too.
My disappoints I basically missed one, didn't think Grown Ups 2 would do that well. Man of Steel did ok I guess but it was still no Dark Knight.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
This is true, but it's also true that when it comes to sequels, studios still - for the most part - pay much more attention to the domestic draw (for whatever reason).
They love to come out with their ads on Monday proclaiming "#1 movie in America!" "#1 Comedy in America!" "#1 action-drama over 2 hours involving a fictional President in America!"
Old 08-14-13 | 10:22 PM
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How dare anyone call Smurfs 2 a bomb!

It was just released in the theater a week ago.

Too early.
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Originally Posted by sauce07
So now that the box office season is wrapping up, here's how I think everything came out.

Mega Hit (400+ mil)
Iron Man 3 - $407 mm

Genuine Hit
Despicable Me 2 - $340 mm
Man of Steel - $288 mm
Monsters University - $260 mm
Fast & Furious 6 - $238 mm
World War Z - $197 mm
The Heat - $153 mm
The Great Gatsby - $144 mm
Grown Ups 2 - $124 mm
Now You See Me - $115
This is the End - $96 mm

Should’ve Done Better
Star Trek Into Darkness - $226 mm
The Wolverine - $113 mm
Pacific Rim - $97 mm
Elysium

Break Even
The Hangover III - $112 mm
Epic - $107 mm

The little Indie That Could
The Conjuring - $121 mm
The Way, Way Back - $16 mm

Bomb
The Lone Ranger - $87 mm
Turbo - $75 mm
White House Down - $71 mm
After Earth - $60 mm
Red 2 - $49 mm
Smurfs 2 - $48 mm
The Internship - $44 mm
R.I.P.D. - $32 mm

granted I added my money into the box office gross of 'The Great Gatsby' - I must say though ultimately I thought - what a waste of 143 minutes of my life, that I'll never get back.


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