Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
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Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
Every single film I can recall of Peter Hyams has struck me as unexceptional and mediocre (though I haven't seen A Sound of Thunder, which I hear is truly terrible). Capricorn One, 2010, End of Days, Outland... Does this guy have any fans or detractors, or is his work too unremarkable to even inspire debate?
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Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
Don't forget his utter pedestrian work on:
The Star Chamber
Running Scared
The Presidio
Narrow Margin
Time Cop
Sudden Death
The Relic
The Star Chamber
Running Scared
The Presidio
Narrow Margin
Time Cop
Sudden Death
The Relic
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I think his early output was definitely better than mediocre but around The Presidio did things start to fall.
Outland, 2010, The Star Chamber, Running Scared are better-than-average to good films.
Outland, 2010, The Star Chamber, Running Scared are better-than-average to good films.
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Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
Outland is worth your time, a cool moody space western. The set design feels like the sets from Alien, and there are some cool decompression deaths
Otherwise, yeah I can agree that he's mediocre. A lot of people like The Relic as a B monster flick, but I only thought it was soso. I have good memoires of Timecop but haven't seen it since high school. End of Days was terrible.
Otherwise, yeah I can agree that he's mediocre. A lot of people like The Relic as a B monster flick, but I only thought it was soso. I have good memoires of Timecop but haven't seen it since high school. End of Days was terrible.
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Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
I always thought of Peter Hyams and John Badham in a similar vein. While also not stellar, Badham probably has a more notable filmography -- especially in the early years (Saturday Night Fever, Blue Thunder, WarGames).
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While I can argue that Peter Hyams is FAR from being the most mediocre filmmaker on the planet -
Brett Ratner, anyone -
He doesn't have a style that separates himself from the rest of the pack.
William Friedkin has a style.
Spielberg has a style.
Scorcese has a style.
Wes Anderson has a style.
Tony Scott had a style.
Even Michael Bay has a definable style.
But - this doesn't detract his talents as a very proven director.
Brett Ratner, anyone -
He doesn't have a style that separates himself from the rest of the pack.
William Friedkin has a style.
Spielberg has a style.
Scorcese has a style.
Wes Anderson has a style.
Tony Scott had a style.
Even Michael Bay has a definable style.
But - this doesn't detract his talents as a very proven director.
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Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
Hyams to me, is just talented only enough to rise above the consistently terrible feature filmmakers (Ratner, Wiseman, MCG, Gosnell, etc.) which, yeah, makes him pretty mediocre. Although I do like OUTLAND and 2010, even though the former makes little sense if you think about it too much, and the latter was in a no-win situation of being the sequel to perhaps the greatest film ever made, and settling with being "just OK".
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Sudden Death is alright in it's sheer campiness. The Vice President hockey game plot complete falls apart if you watch it over the age of 12.
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Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
The Rat is an actively bad director, and seems like a piece of shit in real life, too.
A wholly detestable filmmaker.
Yeah, I have no strong opinions about Hyams, except for Hanover Street which was aggressively boring.
A wholly detestable filmmaker.
Yeah, I have no strong opinions about Hyams, except for Hanover Street which was aggressively boring.
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Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?
He is a bit of a dick. They filmed Red Dragon at work way back when and he comes in to the place talking all loud and shit on his cell phone - our security guard threw him out.
I told our guy "hey, you know you just threw the director out of the building, right?"
His response was: "I don't give a fuck!"
Good times.
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This is my sentiment. And I liked 2010, it's not like I was expecting another 2001 classic. It told the continuing story well. And Sudden Death was alright in my book. Ratner, and Megaton (who's movies I have yet to like at all) have a much worse record IMO. Others that come to mind are McG (every movie he's directed I've hated, Terminator Salvation included), and Paul WS Anderson. And even Anderson has a few okay movies.
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I watched CAPRICORN ONE with a packed house at the old Rivoli Theater on Broadway in Times Square and had such a great time that I'll always hold Hyams in some regard for that alone.
I was with a fellow film school graduate who kept turning to me in disbelief, asking, "Are you actually taking this shit seriously?!" Well, no, but it was enormous fun and boasted a once-in-a-lifetime cast: James Brolin, Elliott Gould, Sam Shepard, Hal Holbrook, O.J. Simpson, Telly Savalas, Brenda Vaccaro and Karen Black, plus a bunch of great character actors.
I'd forgotten that he also directed one of my favorite police thrillers of the 1970s, BUSTING, with the unforgettable star duo of Robert Blake and Elliott Gould.
(That's two celebrity murderers whose careers he's nurtured.)
I was with a fellow film school graduate who kept turning to me in disbelief, asking, "Are you actually taking this shit seriously?!" Well, no, but it was enormous fun and boasted a once-in-a-lifetime cast: James Brolin, Elliott Gould, Sam Shepard, Hal Holbrook, O.J. Simpson, Telly Savalas, Brenda Vaccaro and Karen Black, plus a bunch of great character actors.
I'd forgotten that he also directed one of my favorite police thrillers of the 1970s, BUSTING, with the unforgettable star duo of Robert Blake and Elliott Gould.
(That's two celebrity murderers whose careers he's nurtured.)