Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters

Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Old 02-28-13, 12:48 AM
  #1  
DVD Talk Special Edition
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,298
Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Every single film I can recall of Peter Hyams has struck me as unexceptional and mediocre (though I haven't seen A Sound of Thunder, which I hear is truly terrible). Capricorn One, 2010, End of Days, Outland... Does this guy have any fans or detractors, or is his work too unremarkable to even inspire debate?
Living Deadpan is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 12:50 AM
  #2  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 17,006
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

2010 was pretty good for an unnecessary sequel to one of the greatest movies of all time.
Rockmjd23 is online now  
Old 02-28-13, 01:07 AM
  #3  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Why So Blu?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 29,198
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

2010 and Outland are far from mediocre. Time Cop, Sudden Death and The Relic are lots of fun.
Why So Blu? is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 01:11 AM
  #4  
DVD Talk Legend
 
JumpCutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: south of heaven
Posts: 13,540
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Don't forget his utter pedestrian work on:

The Star Chamber
Running Scared
The Presidio
Narrow Margin
Time Cop
Sudden Death
The Relic
JumpCutz is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 02:04 AM
  #5  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
Posts: 3,323
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Len Wiseman
McG
Paul W.S. Anderson


are also very mediocre directors as well.
PenguinJoe is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 02:29 AM
  #6  
DVD Talk Reviewer
 
Boba Fett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,045
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Brett Ratner
Boba Fett is online now  
Old 02-28-13, 03:43 AM
  #7  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,940
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

I think his early output was definitely better than mediocre but around The Presidio did things start to fall.

Outland, 2010, The Star Chamber, Running Scared are better-than-average to good films.
gmanca is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 08:14 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Mattflix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northern New Jersey
Posts: 359
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Outland is worth your time, a cool moody space western. The set design feels like the sets from Alien, and there are some cool decompression deaths

Otherwise, yeah I can agree that he's mediocre. A lot of people like The Relic as a B monster flick, but I only thought it was soso. I have good memoires of Timecop but haven't seen it since high school. End of Days was terrible.
Mattflix is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 09:39 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 688
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

He's notable for great-looking anamorphic cinematography and usually entertaining films. I'm a moderate fan of his pre-90's work.
Strevlac is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 09:45 AM
  #10  
DVD Talk Hero
 
PopcornTreeCt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 25,916
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Peter Berg
PopcornTreeCt is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 10:48 AM
  #11  
Moderator
 
Geofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Village Green
Posts: 39,098
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

I always thought of Peter Hyams and John Badham in a similar vein. While also not stellar, Badham probably has a more notable filmography -- especially in the early years (Saturday Night Fever, Blue Thunder, WarGames).
Geofferson is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 11:15 AM
  #12  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,829
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

I really like Narrow Margin. Also Sudden Death

Last edited by SuckaMC; 02-28-13 at 11:23 AM.
SuckaMC is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 11:17 AM
  #13  
DVD Talk Legend
 
islandclaws's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain
Posts: 19,970
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Running Scared alone gives him a pass for life. He's far from the most mediocre living filmmaker.
islandclaws is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 11:22 AM
  #14  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 3,279
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

While I can argue that Peter Hyams is FAR from being the most mediocre filmmaker on the planet -

Brett Ratner, anyone -

He doesn't have a style that separates himself from the rest of the pack.

William Friedkin has a style.
Spielberg has a style.
Scorcese has a style.
Wes Anderson has a style.
Tony Scott had a style.
Even Michael Bay has a definable style.

But - this doesn't detract his talents as a very proven director.
jeffkjoe is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 12:49 PM
  #15  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Hokeyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 18,850
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Hyams to me, is just talented only enough to rise above the consistently terrible feature filmmakers (Ratner, Wiseman, MCG, Gosnell, etc.) which, yeah, makes him pretty mediocre. Although I do like OUTLAND and 2010, even though the former makes little sense if you think about it too much, and the latter was in a no-win situation of being the sequel to perhaps the greatest film ever made, and settling with being "just OK".
Hokeyboy is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 12:51 PM
  #16  
DVD Talk Legend
 
mattysemo247's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 11,958
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Sudden Death kicks ass. I also like The Relic from what I remember of it, but I'm not sure how it holds up today.
mattysemo247 is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 01:18 PM
  #17  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
MrSmearkase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ayer, MA
Posts: 5,251
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

I have a soft spot for Stay Tuned.
MrSmearkase is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 01:31 PM
  #18  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
Posts: 3,323
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Sudden Death is alright in it's sheer campiness. The Vice President hockey game plot complete falls apart if you watch it over the age of 12.
PenguinJoe is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 01:56 PM
  #19  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
hasslein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sunny CA
Posts: 2,600
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

I like him. Plus he shoots his films.

Last edited by hasslein; 09-14-13 at 06:40 PM.
hasslein is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 02:54 PM
  #20  
Banned by request
 
Supermallet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Termite Terrace
Posts: 54,156
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Originally Posted by Boba Fett View Post
Brett Ratner
The Rat is an actively bad director, and seems like a piece of shit in real life, too.

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt View Post
Peter Berg
A wholly detestable filmmaker.

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy View Post
Hyams to me, is just talented only enough to rise above the consistently terrible feature filmmakers (Ratner, Wiseman, MCG, Gosnell, etc.) which, yeah, makes him pretty mediocre.
Yeah, I have no strong opinions about Hyams, except for Hanover Street which was aggressively boring.
Supermallet is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 03:14 PM
  #21  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Why So Blu?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 29,198
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Originally Posted by Supermallet View Post
The Rat is an actively bad director, and seems like a piece of shit in real life, too.



A wholly detestable filmmaker.



Yeah, I have no strong opinions about Hyams, except for Hanover Street which was aggressively boring.

He is a bit of a dick. They filmed Red Dragon at work way back when and he comes in to the place talking all loud and shit on his cell phone - our security guard threw him out.

I told our guy "hey, you know you just threw the director out of the building, right?"

His response was: "I don't give a fuck!"

Good times.
Why So Blu? is offline  
Old 02-28-13, 04:03 PM
  #22  
Banned by request
 
Supermallet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Termite Terrace
Posts: 54,156
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Nice.
Supermallet is offline  
Old 03-01-13, 06:26 AM
  #23  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 14,802
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Brett Ratner and Olivier Megaton were the first directors that popped into my head.
Tarantino is offline  
Old 03-01-13, 08:25 AM
  #24  
DVD Talk Legend
 
E Unit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Behind Wolf in the Situation Room
Posts: 12,243
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal View Post
Running Scared alone gives him a pass for life. He's far from the most mediocre living filmmaker.
This is my sentiment. And I liked 2010, it's not like I was expecting another 2001 classic. It told the continuing story well. And Sudden Death was alright in my book. Ratner, and Megaton (who's movies I have yet to like at all) have a much worse record IMO. Others that come to mind are McG (every movie he's directed I've hated, Terminator Salvation included), and Paul WS Anderson. And even Anderson has a few okay movies.
E Unit is offline  
Old 03-01-13, 09:46 AM
  #25  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Ash Ketchum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 11,448
Re: Peter Hyams - Most Mediocre Filmmaker Alive?

I watched CAPRICORN ONE with a packed house at the old Rivoli Theater on Broadway in Times Square and had such a great time that I'll always hold Hyams in some regard for that alone.

I was with a fellow film school graduate who kept turning to me in disbelief, asking, "Are you actually taking this shit seriously?!" Well, no, but it was enormous fun and boasted a once-in-a-lifetime cast: James Brolin, Elliott Gould, Sam Shepard, Hal Holbrook, O.J. Simpson, Telly Savalas, Brenda Vaccaro and Karen Black, plus a bunch of great character actors.

I'd forgotten that he also directed one of my favorite police thrillers of the 1970s, BUSTING, with the unforgettable star duo of Robert Blake and Elliott Gould.

(That's two celebrity murderers whose careers he's nurtured.)
Ash Ketchum is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.