And back then they probably had those legendary 1,000 dollar bills (I suppose), which is why Stephen counted out a pretty small wad. No way was that 12k in $100 bills. Musta been thousand dollar denominations.

$12,000

Wonder if this takes place in the realer-than-real universe or the movie-movie universe.

Some of this nit-picking is getting more than a little silly. You may as well be complaining about how people don't actually bleed like they do in the movie when shot with a gun.

Or get knocked ten feet backwards when shot with a pistol.

I am guessing in terms of how this story relates to the German legend:

Also I believe in an alternate plot universe :

Perhaps they could have approached Don Johnson's character with a deal (since he's known for buying/selling women):

"We're sorry for killing those guys on your property earlier, but we were just doing our jobs." Then pay him to negotiate a business deal with Candie, front the money for him to buy Broomhilda and a few other women to make it seem legit. He gets to keep the extra women.

At this point Johnson's character would hold the cards, and maybe he's still pissed at Schultz and Django, or Stephen gets suspicious via some other tell and the plan could go awry. Maybe his women get killed, so he's left with nothing but wasted time. There would have to be something for Schultz and Django to do during this time, otherwise it would be them sitting around waiting.

On top of that, you'd then have Schultz and Django buying slaves for Johnson's character, which would be a dilemma for both of them.

I really liked the movie as is, but if we're suggesting different plans, then there are a lot of fun ways to think about it.

Tarantino explained this in a link posted a page back. I didn't think there was anything missing. It was in Schultz's nature.

Sorry but I am not satisfied with that explanation.

As I mentioned in my first post, I read that link. Just didn't buy it.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Wasn't the point of going through the whole deception was to get her for, say, $300 or something? They put together the mandingo deal, buy Hildy on their way out, say they'll be back in five days, and never return. Why pay $5,000 when $300 will do AND you get the red carpet laid out for you?

I really liked this movie a lot, but totally agree with the critique that Schultz's actions in the handshake scene were completely out-of-character. It just made no sense that such a smart character would all of a sudden do something rash that was virtually guaranteed to be self-destructive. I wish Tarantino could've found a less flawed way to get to the final act that he wanted.


Adding it to my ranking of Tarantino's directing efforts, it would fall thus:

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Inglourious Basterds
3. Kill Bill, Vol. 2
4. Kill Bill, Vol. 1
5. Django Unchained
6. Reservoir Dogs
7. Death Proof (the Extended Cut preferably, but either cut would still rank in this same spot)
8. Jackie Brown

I thought this was a great movie. However, unlike most of QTs other movies I really do not relish seeing this one again. For that reason, a week later I would say that I believe it to be one of his lesser works.

think Schultz was so pissed that Candie got the better of him that he couldn't resist putting a bullet in his heart

right now i'd rank QTs movies

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Django Unchained
3. Kill Bill 1
4. Reservoir Dogs
5. Inglorious Basterds
6. Kill Bill 2
7. Jackie Brown
8. Death Proof

I think it is less that Candie got over on him than it was that Candie was a despicable human being and he deserved to die.

It was Candie being a horrible winner and Schultz being who he is. Candie put the cherry on top of all of what Schultz felt when he would NOT let go that he had to have a handshake. Candie wasn't letting it go.

I like the way you rank boy.

Anyway this is how I would rank his films probably switching around Kill Bill 1 and 2. I don't know how anyone could not have Pulp Fiction as number 1. It isn't even close, Pulp is his clear cut masterpiece, best movie.

ya that didn't help his cause

Okay, that's that then.

You are correct.

It wasn't just Schultz killing Candie, but that afterwards, he did nothing to protect himself from the guy in the other room with the gun aimed at him. I would've liked it better if after shooting Candie, Schultz then turned and at least tried to kill the other guy before getting shot.

More of my favorite scenes in the Kill Bill movies are in Vol. 2 (all of the Pai Mei scenes, the "Texas funeral" scene, the Bride vs. Elle fight), so I prefer it even though Vol. 1 definitely is the faster paced and more action-packed part of Kill Bill.

I will agree with you on that one. Didn't he have two shots in that gun?