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Clerks III (D: Kevin Smith)

Old 12-10-12, 10:46 AM
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Clerks II was alright but dammit if my girl Rosario wasn't so damn cute (and bouncy!)in it. If she's brought back, I'm there.
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Clerks II was alright but dammit if my girl Rosario wasn't so damn cute (and bouncy!)in it. If she's brought back, I'm there.
that was another thing I disliked about Clerks 2. On what planet does a girl as beautiful as Rosario Dawson, not only work at a fast food restaurant, but have sex and fall in love with a man as profoundly ugly as Brian O'Halloran.

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that was another thing I disliked about Clerks 2. On what planet does a girl as beautiful as Rosario Dawson, not only work at a fast food restaurant, but have sex and fall in love with a man as profoundly ugly as Brian O'Halloran.
Not in a million years.
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Old 12-11-12, 09:19 AM
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He's never been shy about admitting he has difficulty getting funding for his films. A few of you think you are geniuses for pointing that fact out but he has beaten you to the punch numerous times. As much as I like Smith as a director he's a far better entertainer. He's fought the system and struggled to make films for almost 20 years. He's earned retirement despite the fact that critics see him moving on to other things as him failing and giving up.
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Since when? Red State is the only one I know he had trouble with. Up until then he almost bragged he could pitch any idea to Harvey Weinstein and get it picked up since his flicks always break even in the theater and then go on to do gangbusters on DVD.
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True, I remember him saying over and over how he got Zack and Miri greenlit just on the title.

I don't think Kevin Smith deserves the level of abuse he receives. He is a fine entertainer who has made some good movies and some not so good ones. As a public figure he is funny and entertaining. He hasn't raped anyone, he hasn't married his step-daughter, and no one's lost their head in any of his productions. If it wasn't for Copout, I'd say the man's a Saint.
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Not in a million years.
Wrong. See it all the time.
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Old 12-11-12, 07:41 PM
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Wrong. See it all the time.
Really? ALL the time? Name five instances.
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He's never been shy about admitting he has difficulty getting funding for his films. A few of you think you are geniuses for pointing that fact out but he has beaten you to the punch numerous times. As much as I like Smith as a director he's a far better entertainer. He's fought the system and struggled to make films for almost 20 years. He's earned retirement despite the fact that critics see him moving on to other things as him failing and giving up.
He is failing and giving up, he failed to make it as a mainstream director in spite of trying so hard. He tried it with Jersey Girl and bombed out in spite of casting the big tabloid couple Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, he tried it and bombed out with Cop out which included in vogue comedy stars Sean William Scott, Tracy Morgan and big action star Bruce Willis, and pretty much all of his efforts to develop big films with studios have been rejected or shelved including Superman and Green Hornet.

Then when other comedy directors manage to find mainstream success faster than he does e.g. Judd Apatow, he either blames them for copying him, or tries to mimic their success e.g. Zack and Miri Make a Porno. Casting Elizabeth Banks and Seth Rogen in the key roles? Nah, he's not trying to be Judd Apatow.

The man is only the "indie darling" when he needs a safety net. For an alleged subversive indie artist, he's tried desperately to be mainstream for years. Re-inventing himself as a horror director failed as well, but that's a whole other story.
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that was another thing I disliked about Clerks 2. On what planet does a girl as beautiful as Rosario Dawson, not only work at a fast food restaurant, but have sex and fall in love with a man as profoundly ugly as Brian O'Halloran.
And talks about ass to mouth?
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Old 12-11-12, 10:35 PM
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If Silent Bob appears in the movie, this may be our last chance to see Kevin Smith not wearing a hideous orange and blue hockey jersey.
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If Silent Bob appears in the movie, this may be our last chance to see Kevin Smith not wearing a hideous orange and blue hockey jersey.
Especially one that's 12XL.
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Old 12-12-12, 12:25 AM
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If Silent Bob appears in the movie, this may be our last chance to see Kevin Smith not wearing a hideous orange and blue hockey jersey.
Well, it's better than his "bathrobe phase"
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I enjoy his movies and would happily watch a final chapter of Dante and Randall.
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I wonder how he'll do this third movie.

Apatow already did a movie about being forty.

I'm not a hockey playing pot smoking coke head from Jersey so I won't really connect with Clerks III.

Will this be the start of a spin off of movies called "Baby Clerks" where the babies of Randall and Dante go on adventures? One can only hope.
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He's clever in protecting himself from criticism.
If by "protecting himself from criticism" is the same as "getting into flame wars with AICN threadback posters", sure.
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Old 12-12-12, 10:54 AM
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I'm always back and forth on Smith. But in the end I usually give him the benefit of the doubt because although he's not particularly technically gifted, I walk out of his movies with a smile on my face.

He sort of goes off the rails when he leaves his View Askewniverse. I loved Zack & Miri, but that felt more like a Seth Rogen bromantic comedy (in the vein of Knocked Up) than it did a Smith movie. The Wrong Guys has zero appeal to me and looks like a generic crap comedy.

As for Clerks, it's a stretch to make this a franchise. I mean it's just about two slackers hanging out and shooting the breeze. There is no need to revisit these characters every ten years. Clerks II was a load of fun, but in the end it was just another "will he date the right girl" plot that we've seen a million times.
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Kevin Smith failed to achieve mainstream success. Bad, Kevin, bad!

BTW, here's an example of mainstream success:

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If by "protecting himself from criticism" is the same as "getting into flame wars with AICN threadback posters", sure.
I don't visit AICN. But that sounds like Smith.
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Clerks II was a load of fun, but in the end it was just another "will he date the right girl" plot that we've seen a million times.
Clerks II was just another stale romantic comedy but with Jay and Silent Bob instead of Sarah Jessica Parker and Cameron Diaz.
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I loved Clerks, the animated series, and Chasing Amy, thought Mallrats and Dogma were very good; but don't care much about the rest, with Clerks 2 being one of my least favorite most hated films of all time.

Edit: to add animated series love and clarify bad grammar, thanks Roc

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with Clerks 2 being one of my least favorite films of all time.
But it's still one of your favorites, even if least among them.
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Old 12-12-12, 12:33 PM
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Then when other comedy directors manage to find mainstream success faster than he does e.g. Judd Apatow, he either blames them for copying him, or tries to mimic their success e.g. Zack and Miri Make a Porno. Casting Elizabeth Banks and Seth Rogen in the key roles? Nah, he's not trying to be Judd Apatow.
Kevin Smith has more wit, timing and comic imagination in his chubby pinky than Apatow has in his entire body. Who would pay to see "An Evening with Judd Apatow"?
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1. I have enjoyed all things Clerks. The animated series is very funny. Clerks 2 made me smile from ear to ear. Loved the music, the performances, the nostalgia, the dialogue. Brilliant film.

2. All the Kevin Smith hate on the internet blows my mind. Ten years ago the guy was nearly universally loved. The amount of shit people pile on him is outrageous. He's made some great films.
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The Wrong Guys has zero appeal to me and looks like a generic crap comedy.


It'd rank it as one of the top 100 Scouting comedies, but that's just me.
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