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Old 02-06-15, 06:55 PM
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I'm not clicking spoilers ... Please tell me it isn't all about water rights on Tatooine.
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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
Lucas got burned out during the production of Empire -- it went over budget, Kershner wouldn't listen to him and made the film far darker than Lucas wanted, and if it had been merely as successful as Jaws 2, Lucas would've lost his entire fortune
I didn't know that. Secret History of Star Wars? If anything, it seems to have far less chaos of production on the screen than ROTJ. ESB really looks cohesive. ROTJ looks more like a film pieces. Oh, and it also turned out to be far and away the best one. There may be a moral to this story.

-- and when it came time to do Jedi, he scaled everything back, hired a journeyman director he could control, and wrapped up the entire story in a single film. After that Lucas was content to sit back and produce disposable schlock like the Ewok films.
I have always heard Lucas basically ghost-directed ROTJ. Nearly everything outside of his two big franchises which Lucas has put his name on has tanked financially too, which can't be encouraging to him.

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You can't really compare movie ticket sales to book sales.

500 billion trillion zillion people will go watch a Batman movie. Yet the Batman comics barely sell 100,000 copies per month.
Reading comics, especially superhero comics sold direct market, is a bit different from regular books, especially when it's specifically catering the same 100,000 people over and over and over again.

The simple fact is that everyone loves movies, but yet few people actually like reading for fun. Reading for fun? is that nonsense. Who reads for fun?
I try to. Sometimes I think living in this hyper-visual age has dulled my ability to. Then I think that's just a dumb excuse I made up for myself.

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refresh me on the snow fight leak: was
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driver fighting both ridley and boyega? all three had lightsabers?
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^
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The person who posted about the scene on TheForce.net boards back in September mentioned Boyega had a blue saber and was dueling with Driver. This was also the first description I'd read of the "cross light" handle on the red saber, so it sounds legit. They also claimed that Ridley is on the ground during the duel, having been severely injured by Driver. The concept art of the scene shows Rey (presumably) holding a blue saber, so maybe she and Finn use the same one at different points.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
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I would rather think of Luke as one of the Jedi that never marries or has a kid at all I guess.
I feel the same. I seem to remember Gleeson saying that he hoped he wasn't cut out of the movie. If those spoilers are legit, his role sounds pretty vital to the overall plot.


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Though a third Death Star would feel stale, I like the idea of an internal power struggle within the Republic -- i.e. certain parties building a super weapon in secret and Leia only discovering its existence when the need to use it arises. Those opposing ideologies might make for interesting drama if Leia refuses to go along with the plan. I really hope they bring her relation to Vader out in the open. I don't know how that could be uncovered (maybe a private conversation is overheard), but it would make for some good drama if Leia's colleagues cause her to be shunned by the very Republic she spent her life trying to rebuild by revealing her birth father was one of the galaxy's greatest monsters. It's too interesting an angle not to explore, imo.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
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It isn't necessarily him finding love and getting married after Return of the Jedi that bothers me. I said that it could have happened in my post as well, I just don't necessarily want the Sequel Trilogy to focus on the offspring of the main cast from the Original Trilogy. I would rather think of Luke as one of the Jedi that never marries or has a kid at all I guess.
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So does Luke just rub one out from time to time? I'd think all that back pressure would turn him to the Dark Side after a few weeks
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So does Luke just rub one out from time to time? I'd think all that back pressure would turn him to the Dark Side after a few weeks
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I wonder if a Jedi has ever used the Force to make an "invisible hand" to jerk it? Great. Now I can't get the image out of my head of Yoda jerking it with the Force for 20 years on Dagobah.
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So the rumor of the day is that JJ wants to push the release date up to the summer to beat the inevitable leaks.

There's so much at stake that I can't see it happening. Every licensee would be rushing to get their merch out in time and it's naive to pretend that isn't the most important thing.

I also can't imagine that anyone involved is legitimately concerned that spoilers would have any commercial affect on the movie.
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^ Yeah, that ain't happening. The site that first ran the story (ikwiz) said Abrams announced this at a Hollywood event -- which has already been debunked.
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Originally Posted by Guru Askew
So the rumor of the day is that JJ wants to push the release date up to the summer to beat the inevitable leaks.

There's so much at stake that I can't see it happening. Every licensee would be rushing to get their merch out in time and it's naive to pretend that isn't the most important thing.

I also can't imagine that anyone involved is legitimately concerned that spoilers would have any commercial affect on the movie.
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^ Yeah, that ain't happening. The site that first ran the story (ikwiz) said Abrams announced this at a Hollywood event -- which has already been debunked.
It's near impossible to move an event movie like this around at all. Aside from whether or not they'll have post-production and all of the special effects work done on time, you're still looking at dozens of licensees who are already working with the old schedule and probably couldn't meet a release date that was pushed up to the summer if they wanted to.
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Originally Posted by Guru Askew
So the rumor of the day is that JJ wants to push the release date up to the summer to beat the inevitable leaks.

There's so much at stake that I can't see it happening. Every licensee would be rushing to get their merch out in time and it's naive to pretend that isn't the most important thing.

I also can't imagine that anyone involved is legitimately concerned that spoilers would have any commercial affect on the movie.
Will never happen... for so many logistical reasons. The least of which is rumors leaking.
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MAJOR spoiler posted by MakingStarWars involving the fate of one of the big three... though not one we haven't expected. Still, AVOID at all costs if you want to stay in the dark.


Spoiler:
Han is killed by Kylo Ren outside the "evil castle" while attempting to confront him. The report says they know for certain this was shot at Pinewood -- though that doesn't mean much, as Abrams could have shot it simply to throw people off. Still, it makes sense given Ford's indifference to the character over the years. An earlier report from an unproven source implied Kylo is actually Han's son and Rey's brother -- which might explain why Han would try to reason with him. So Ren could just be a bad seed obsessed with becoming more powerful than granddaddy Vader.

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/st...r-death-great/

The parallels to A New Hope keep revealing themselves with each new report:

- Rey keeps a vital item (the lightsaber with the crystal) hidden inside a droid.
- The new crew hook up with Han to get off Tatooine.
- They do a raid on a heavily guarded compound to rescue someone.
- An elder gets struck down by a Sith(ish) while the young'uns look on.
- They escaping on the Falcon before hooking up with the Rebellion for a final battle.

Despite the rewrites, it sounds like George's "poetry" structure with these trilogies is alive and well.
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Originally Posted by joe_b
MAJOR spoiler posted by MakingStarWars involving the fate of one of the big three... though not one we haven't expected. Still, AVOID at all costs if you want to stay in the dark.


Spoiler:
Han is killed by Kylo Ren outside the "evil castle" while attempting to confront him. The report says they know for certain this was shot at Pinewood -- though that doesn't mean much, as Abrams could have shot it simply to throw people off. Still, it makes sense given Ford's indifference to the character over the years. An earlier report from an unproven source implied Kylo is actually Han's son and Rey's brother -- which might explain why Han would try to reason with him. So Ren could just be a bad seed obsessed with becoming more powerful than granddaddy Vader.

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/st...r-death-great/

The parallels to A New Hope keep revealing themselves with each new report:

- Rey keeps a vital item (the lightsaber with the crystal) hidden inside a droid.
- The new crew hook up with Han to get off Tatooine.
- They do a raid on a heavily guarded compound to rescue someone.
- An elder gets struck down by a Sith(ish) while the young'uns look on.
- They escaping on the Falcon before hooking up with the Rebellion for a final battle.

Despite the rewrites, it sounds like George's "poetry" structure with these trilogies is alive and well.
Spoiler:
Kylo Ren is the cross-hilt lightsaber guy, right? I'm still not familiar with all the new names, but I think that's right.

I hope Han says his thing about ancient weapons being no match for a good blaster, and then Kylo instantly cuts him down. Kinda like the inverse of the gun/sword "duel" from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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This is what happens when Han doesn't shoot first.


That cross saber is still one of the dumbest fucking things I have seen.
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That cross saber is still one of the dumbest fucking things I have seen.

Here we go again...
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Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
That cross saber is still one of the dumbest fucking things I have seen.
Beat that dead horse! It ain't dead enough so beat it some more!
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Horse ain't dead yet. Fuckin' stupid design.
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Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
Horse ain't dead yet.
That horse is dead and turned into Alpo. The dogs that ate the Alpo are all dead of old age. That's how dead the horse is.
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Horse still eating from my hands.
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Originally Posted by joe_b
MAJOR spoiler posted by MakingStarWars involving the fate of one of the big three... though not one we haven't expected. Still, AVOID at all costs if you want to stay in the dark.


Spoiler:
Han is killed by Kylo Ren outside the "evil castle" while attempting to confront him. The report says they know for certain this was shot at Pinewood -- though that doesn't mean much, as Abrams could have shot it simply to throw people off. Still, it makes sense given Ford's indifference to the character over the years. An earlier report from an unproven source implied Kylo is actually Han's son and Rey's brother -- which might explain why Han would try to reason with him. So Ren could just be a bad seed obsessed with becoming more powerful than granddaddy Vader.

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/st...r-death-great/

The parallels to A New Hope keep revealing themselves with each new report:

- Rey keeps a vital item (the lightsaber with the crystal) hidden inside a droid.
- The new crew hook up with Han to get off Tatooine.
- They do a raid on a heavily guarded compound to rescue someone.
- An elder gets struck down by a Sith(ish) while the young'uns look on.
- They escaping on the Falcon before hooking up with the Rebellion for a final battle.

Despite the rewrites, it sounds like George's "poetry" structure with these trilogies is alive and well.
Maybe, maybe not. There are lots of spoilers floating around, most of them contradictory. So either people are just making shit up, or JJA and Lucasfilm are releasing foilers.

Pretty impressive that we don't yet have any 'definitive' plot synopsis yet.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
There are lots of spoilers floating around, most of them contradictory.
Very true. They're fun to read/speculate about, but these "spoiler" reports are getting more conflicting by the day. Case in point:

Spoiler:
MSW is now saying Gleeson's character is "probably not" Luke's son and that he personally fires the Empire's super weapon in the movie. Certainly not the actions of a good guy. They also mention that Rey doesn't appear to be a Skywalker or a Solo because she has never seen or heard of the Falcon when she and Finn first happen upon it. Considering Daisy Ridley looks like an attractive brunette in the Portman/Knightley mold, I'll be surprised (or at least a little disappointed) if she's not playing Han and Leia's kid.


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