GoldenJCJ

I always thought Williams did the same thing with the original ending to Return of the Jedi. The characters are all celebrating on Endor, the music builds to a final crescendo and then leads directly to the Star Wars theme as the credits roll. That was totally ruined when they added the new music to the end of Jedi for the special editions.

Obi-Wanma

Yeah, it will be weird though, whenever I see a movie that opens with the Fox fanfare, always lean over to my buddy and jokingly say "Is this Star Wars?"

Joe Schmoe

Don't like/understand the title. Has the force been asleep since Episode VI? Doesn't the title Return of the Jedi imply a re-awakening of the Force with Luke Skywalker becoming a Jedi Knight?

Timber

Obi, Yoda, Vader and Palps were all using the Force in the OT. It didn't need to be re-awakened.

Josh-da-man

The Rebel Academy is just a couple of sets of monkey bars on Tattooine.

Dr. DVD

True, but given as how this is a whole new set of adventures(and more or less a reboot), I think it will be kind of appropriate if we hear Disney's "When You Wish Upon a Star" with the LucasFilm logo lighting up as the "Your dreams come true" part of the tune finishes . I think it will all be appropriate for a new generation.

Obi-Wanma

Here's a fan's concept of the 3 logo's together, with some SW related tweaks:

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E Unit

Would have been a lot better with music only and without those silly sound effects.

TomOpus

I bet the title will make more sense ONCE WE SEE THE DAMN MOVIE. Geeeze give it a rest for a year

Sean O'Hara

Considering the OT soundtracks begin with the fanfare, no, you are not.

Artman

Pretty cool, I'd be surprised if Bad Robot is included in the opening though.... What would be perfect is if they have John Williams do the new music for the Disney/Lucasfilm opening.

GoldenJCJ

We've got almost 5000 posts in a 123 page thread for a movie that didn't even have a title until today. I don't think that's going to happen.

JumpCutz

196 pages.

story

Never tell him the page count.

GuessWho

You're assuming the word "Jedi" is plural there, the return of the Jedi Order.

Used as a singular word, one Jedi, Return of the Jedi is the return (redemption) of Anakin.

islandclaws

Change your settings, noob.

Anubis2005X

Nah, the original title was Revenge of the Jedi. It's just Luke returning to lay down the smack and rescue Han...

mcnabb

The title refers to the galaxy in a more macro-sense. I don't think there has been a threat for the past 30 years, so the Force Awakening just means that Luke Skywalker & Leia will have to come out of retirement along with their possible offspring and save the galaxy again against some evil Sith or multiple Sith.

So Luke could have been training jedi for the past 30 years (along with Leia and their possible offpring), but the Force Awakening means more about a legitimate threat for the first time since Return of the Jedi.

Remember 'A New Hope' (even though it wasn't called it in 1977) refers to Luke being the hope that Kenobi/Yoda have been waiting for to defeat The Emperor. This time, they aren't waiting for anyone to grow up like Luke, because this time the threat is now.

Josh-da-man

As a kid, I took "the Jedi" in the title to be Luke Skywalker, though it did cross my mind that "the Jedi" might also be plural, as in the return of the Jedi as an institution, which Luke would presumably restart after the movie. Never once crossed my mind that the title referred to Anakin until now. Though with Lucas claiming that the six movies of the PT and OT was meant to be Anakin's "saga" it's certainly a possibility.

milo bloom

Return of the Jedi is supposed to be a multi=faceted title - it refers to Luke, Anakin and the Jedi as a whole returning to the galaxy.

I'd wager The Force Awakens was chosen for the same reason.

story

"The last of the Jedi will you be... pass on what you have learned..." Wow, mixed messages in the same patch of dialogue, Yoda!

EctoCooler

Just because there will be no more Jedi doesn't mean people won't be able to learn from them.

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EctoCooler

Just because there will be no more Jedi doesn't mean people can't learn from them.

taffer

Not really. I never understood that as Yoda wanting Luke to forever be the last Jedi. I understood it as Luke temporarily being the last Jedi, and he is supposed to teach others to become Jedi. Basically it is Yoda telling Luke that it is up to him alone to avoid extinction.

TGM

^ this