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dvdjunkie32 08-27-12 11:48 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
I think the mark of a great actor is their ability to completely transform themselves into different characters. I have to say Nicholson beats De Niro on this level. De Niro's characters are always either grouchy or outright rage. But Nicholson can be a terrifying gangster or that goofy next door neighbor.

I really gained a lot of respect for Nicholson when he did About Schmidt. He became a realistic old man who many people could relate to. Amazing film and performance.

Jaymole 08-27-12 12:50 PM

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If you would have asked me this 15 years ago I would have said DeNiro.

But after 15 years of DeNiro just going through the motions, I give a slight edge to Nicholson.

wm lopez 08-27-12 05:02 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 11361588)
Nicholson's legacy: FIVE EASY PIECES, THE LAST DETAIL, CHINATOWN, ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST

DeNiro's legacy: MEAN STREETS, TAXI DRIVER, RAGING BULL, GOODFELLAS

So they're tied.

Throw in Nicholson's "early funny" movies for Corman (LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS and THE RAVEN) and DeNiro's "early funny" movies for Brian De Palma (GREETINGS, HI MOM) and...

...they're still tied.

DeNiro: THE DEER HUNTER
Tie is broken DeNiro wins!

Arpeggi 08-27-12 05:15 PM

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Jack

inri222 08-27-12 05:34 PM

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wm lopez 08-28-12 04:30 PM

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DeNiro did a movie with Jack and had a scene together and DeNiro gave the better performance.
DeNiro also gave the better performance over Brando( THE SCORE),Pacino(HEAT).

inri222 08-28-12 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wm lopez (Post 11363223)
DeNiro did a movie with Jack and had a scene together and DeNiro gave the better performance

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FRwL 08-28-12 07:54 PM

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^Yep pretty much.

Fuck Nicholson.

wm lopez 08-29-12 04:48 PM

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Like 70's Jack is like 80's which is also like 90's Jack.
70's Pacino is no more.
DeNiro gave different fine performances in 70's, 80's and 90's.

lamphorn 08-30-12 10:50 AM

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DeNiro is the better actor, but the question is who do you prefer. I prefer Nicholson, hands down. Now, we're talking about two brilliant, brilliant performers, so this is no diss on DeNiro. But any guy who can capture Kubrick's imagination gets an edge with me. Also, I'll take Chinatown any day over Taxi Driver(which is a classic), Raging Bull (so Euro-artsy and bleak that aside from a couple of great scenes and a pretty opening, it's barely watchable... be honest), or Goodfellas (very good, but I'm never in the mood to rewatch it). Call me fuckin' nuts, but I think Scorsese (with the exception of Taxi Driver) has made better movies with DiCaprio (give me the Aviator ANY fucking time over Raging Bull). DeNiro's crowning achievment in my opinion is his performance in Godfather 2 (the whole movie should've been about him instead of that boring and incomprehensible stuff about Michael, Fredo, and Lee Strasberg).

Currently if Nicholson appears in a movie, I know it has a good chance of being interesting. Currently if DeNiro appears in a movie, I know it's another Fockers sequel. I can't think of anything good he's done since Jackie Brown.

Nicholson can turn in a fantastic comedic performance. The closest DeNiro has gotten to actually being funny is the scene in Jackie Brown in the parking lot between him and Bridget Fonda. DeNiro is not funny but has been doing nothing but bad comedies for years now, which tells me he has no idea what the hell he's doing these days.

Anyway, love DeNiro and have no problem conceding he's a more talented actor if your standard is the ability to transform into various dramatic characters. But as a performer on screen, I prefer Nicholson's style and movies.

Larry C. 08-30-12 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CloverClover (Post 11360222)
Nicholson is better at owning the screen and carrying a film based on his acting/presence alone. DeNiro is better at the craft, meshing with his character and living in the reality of the film.

:thumbsup:

inri222 08-30-12 11:28 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by lamphorn (Post 11365274)
Call me fuckin' nuts, but I think Scorsese (with the exception of Taxi Driver) has made better movies with DiCaprio (give me the Aviator ANY fucking time over Raging Bull).

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Ash Ketchum 08-30-12 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wm lopez (Post 11362030)
DeNiro: THE DEER HUNTER
Tie is broken DeNiro wins!

You won me over. I just voted for DeNiro. Thanks!

wm lopez 08-30-12 03:15 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by lamphorn (Post 11365274)
DeNiro is the better actor, but the question is who do you prefer. I prefer Nicholson, hands down. Now, we're talking about two brilliant, brilliant performers, so this is no diss on DeNiro. But any guy who can capture Kubrick's imagination gets an edge with me. Also, I'll take Chinatown any day over Taxi Driver(which is a classic), Raging Bull (so Euro-artsy and bleak that aside from a couple of great scenes and a pretty opening, it's barely watchable... be honest), or Goodfellas (very good, but I'm never in the mood to rewatch it). Call me fuckin' nuts, but I think Scorsese (with the exception of Taxi Driver) has made better movies with DiCaprio (give me the Aviator ANY fucking time over Raging Bull). DeNiro's crowning achievment in my opinion is his performance in Godfather 2 (the whole movie should've been about him instead of that boring and incomprehensible stuff about Michael, Fredo, and Lee Strasberg).

Currently if Nicholson appears in a movie, I know it has a good chance of being interesting. Currently if DeNiro appears in a movie, I know it's another Fockers sequel. I can't think of anything good he's done since Jackie Brown.

Nicholson can turn in a fantastic comedic performance. The closest DeNiro has gotten to actually being funny is the scene in Jackie Brown in the parking lot between him and Bridget Fonda. DeNiro is not funny but has been doing nothing but bad comedies for years now, which tells me he has no idea what the hell he's doing these days.

Anyway, love DeNiro and have no problem conceding he's a more talented actor if your standard is the ability to transform into various dramatic characters. But as a performer on screen, I prefer Nicholson's style and movies.

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Meglos 08-30-12 03:42 PM

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say buh wah?

Sweet Baby James 08-30-12 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11360445)
But this is like asking me if I would like a blowjob from this girl or that girl. Either way, I'm a winner.

But one would spit and the other would swallow.


I'm going to go with Jack.

cdollaz 08-30-12 04:33 PM

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Or, one would stop at the balls, but the other would go all the way to the taint.

DeNiro.

FRwL 08-30-12 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 11365336)

lol

But seriously fuck that overhyped piece of shit. Raging Bull is an asshole acting assholish for 2 hours and then the end "woops sorry bout that folks." But because it was in b&w with archival color film it won best oscarzzzzzz.

Solid Snake 08-30-12 07:20 PM

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You take that back!

Jules Winfield 08-30-12 07:31 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by Sweet Baby James (Post 11365734)
But one would spit and the other would swallow.

I like to think Nicholson is the swallower. "Wait'll they get a load IN me."

Sweet Baby James 08-30-12 07:34 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11365945)
I like to think Nicholson is the swallower. "Wait'll they get a load IN me."

That's why I chose Jack. Nobody likes a spitter.

PenguinJoe 08-30-12 07:38 PM

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I hated Terms of Endearment. I don't know why Nicholson won an Oscar for it.

JumpCutz 08-30-12 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe (Post 11365955)
I hated Terms of Endearment. I don't know why Nicholson won an Oscar for it.


He was phenomenal in Terms of Endearment. One of his finest performances.

inri222 08-30-12 07:59 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by FRwL (Post 11365903)
lol

But seriously fuck that overhyped piece of shit. Raging Bull is an asshole acting assholish for 2 hours and then the end "woops sorry bout that folks." But because it was in b&w with archival color film it won best oscarzzzzzz.

Sorry but I can't agree. IMO Raging Bull is a masterpiece and is tied with Taxi Driver as Scorsese's best.
Everything about it is excellent, from the acting to the B&W cinematography to the editing to Scorsese's direction (lots of French new wave & Cassevetes influence).
It is a continuation of the themes of Scorsese's other films of male violence & insecurity.

Jules Winfield 08-30-12 08:05 PM

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Disheartening to hear Raging Bull get such a trash talking. It's a great flick.


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