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JumpCutz 08-26-12 12:19 AM

Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Two acting heavyweights. Who's work do you prefer?

Solid Snake 08-26-12 12:39 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
De Niro. He had fucking fantastic work w/ Scorsese. Did a fucking great job w/ Coppola as Vito. And it was in fucking Italian (for the most part). Nicholson had great shit..but...just w/ the work he had w/ Marty alone trumps Nicholson, especially in those early prime years.

FRwL 08-26-12 12:42 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Who writes w/ all the time?

But yeah i'm going w/ DeNiro. Even Nicholson wishes he could get the roles that DeNiro had.

musick 08-26-12 01:36 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
I find both to be overrated
but if I had to choose ....

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Sonic 08-26-12 01:40 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
I enjoy more the screen presence of DeNiro. :)

JumpCutz 08-26-12 01:44 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Damn, Nicholson did some fine work in some great films. And even in his not so great films he was stellar.

Easy Rider
Five Easy Pieces
Carnal Knowledge
Drive, He Said
The King of Marvin Gardens
The Last Detail
Chinatown
The Passenger
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Tommy
The Missouri Breaks
Goin' South
The Shining
The Postman Always Rings Twice
Reds
The Border
Terms of Endearment
Prizzi's Honor
The Witches of Eastwick
Broadcast News
Ironweed
Batman
A Few Good Men
The Crossing Guard
As Good As It Gets
The Pledge
About Schmidt
The Departed

CloverClover 08-26-12 04:39 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Nicholson is better at owning the screen and carrying a film based on his acting/presence alone. DeNiro is better at the craft, meshing with his character and living in the reality of the film.

banthafett 08-26-12 07:45 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Nicholson all the way. Hes a nut on and off the screen.

Was never a fan of DeNiro, same can be said for Pacino. I always lump those two together. Dislike both of them. Seems everything I have seen them in, they play the same roll and yell. Sam Jackson must look up to both of them. Also hate that everyone thinks they are such badasses of screen.

Charlie Goose 08-26-12 08:02 AM

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DeNiro, by a slight margin. Both were better in the 70s and 80s, but now Nicholson is almost a parody of himself. Every character is that smugly confident rake with a toothy grin. I do think that DeNiro has chosen some really lousy projects in the past 10-15 years, but he is the better actor.

MoviePage 08-26-12 08:18 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Nicholson, probably for the fact that's he given more performances I like in far more movies I like than De Niro.

Rival11 08-26-12 11:36 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by banthafett (Post 11360266)
Nicholson all the way. Hes a nut on and off the screen.

Was never a fan of DeNiro, same can be said for Pacino. I always lump those two together. Dislike both of them. Seems everything I have seen them in, they play the same roll and yell. Sam Jackson must look up to both of them. Also hate that everyone thinks they are such badasses of screen.

I can see you saying this about Pacino...but De Niro? No way. Two different acting styles altogether.

Have you seen Awakenings? Cape Fear? Even if you don't like the movies as a whole the job done by De Niro is exceptional. Not that it matters but I just recently found he filed his teeth for real for the Cape Fear role.

I remember all the scarface hype before I watched it....after I watched it I had no idea why everyone liked that flick so much.

As for this thread...I pick De Niro although I think these guys are really in leagues of their own.

Jules Winfield 08-26-12 12:12 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
I really like Nicholson but find that he's almost always Jack Nicholson. DeNiro has disappeared into his characters on more occasions. So, I pick DeNiro. But this is like asking me if I would like a blowjob from this girl or that girl. Either way, I'm a winner.

TomOpus 08-26-12 12:38 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11360445)
I really like Nicholson but find that he's almost always Jack Nicholson. DeNiro has disappeared into his characters on more occasions. So, I pick DeNiro.

My exact same thought.

RagingBull80 08-26-12 01:07 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Which one was in Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellas?

inri222 08-26-12 02:39 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
2 greats but I gotta go with Bobby D.

Sonic 08-26-12 02:57 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by RagingBull80 (Post 11360486)
Which one was in Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellas?

Taylor Kitsch

costanza 08-26-12 03:46 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Old man fight!

wm lopez 08-26-12 05:23 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by CloverClover (Post 11360222)
Nicholson is better at owning the screen and carrying a film based on his acting/presence alone. DeNiro is better at the craft, meshing with his character and living in the reality of the film.

DeNiro and Nicholson both played the devil so I judge my pick on that part.
DeNiro played him very mysterious. While Jack played him for laughs.

conscience 08-26-12 06:13 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by wm lopez (Post 11360722)
DeNiro and Nicholson both played the devil so I judge my pick on that part.
DeNiro played him very mysterious. While Jack played him for laughs.

So? One was a drama the other a comedy.

Jack all the way. Again with the "always playing himself" comments?

wm lopez 08-27-12 10:07 AM

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What we need to do is add up all the Jack didn't play Jack movies and see what we can come up with.
I can only think of HOFFA.

Troy Stiffler 08-27-12 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by conscience (Post 11360780)
So? One was a drama the other a comedy.

Yea. But they were both non-fiction movies.

Supermallet 08-27-12 11:28 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Really tough decision. Both have become parodies of themselves, but Jack can still pull a great performance out of his hat every once in a while. Also he was in Chinatown, The Passenger, and The Shining. gotta give it to Jack.

Ash Ketchum 08-27-12 11:31 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 
Nicholson's legacy: FIVE EASY PIECES, THE LAST DETAIL, CHINATOWN, ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST

DeNiro's legacy: MEAN STREETS, TAXI DRIVER, RAGING BULL, GOODFELLAS

So they're tied.

Throw in Nicholson's "early funny" movies for Corman (LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS and THE RAVEN) and DeNiro's "early funny" movies for Brian De Palma (GREETINGS, HI MOM) and...

...they're still tied.

Mr. Flix 08-27-12 11:40 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11360445)
I really like Nicholson but find that he's almost always Jack Nicholson. DeNiro has disappeared into his characters on more occasions. So, I pick DeNiro.

This is exactly what I was going to write.


Originally Posted by conscience
Jack all the way. Again with the "always playing himself" comments?

But he does. While I can't deny Nicholson has screen presence and is the very definition of a movie star, I've NEVER seen him play a role where he disappeared and I forgot that I was watching Jack Nicholson. DeNiro, on the other hand, becomes invisible in his best performances.

chris_santucci 08-27-12 11:47 AM

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I would argue that Nicholson played various versions of the Nicholson archetype save for one: About Schmidt. That was truly that film where Jack was able to undo his persona--confident, charming, eccentric--and imbue a sad, pathetic, timid old man.

DeNiro has Max Cady, Jake LaMotta and Travis Bickle: all various incarnations of personalities--each in which he disappears into the character.

They're both amazing actors--icons even. Do I think both have gone well beyond their prime and are coasting their way towards retirement? Yes. But they are titans, whereas Jack will be more of the "star" whereas DeNiro will be ingrained as more of the "actor"

dvdjunkie32 08-27-12 11:48 AM

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I think the mark of a great actor is their ability to completely transform themselves into different characters. I have to say Nicholson beats De Niro on this level. De Niro's characters are always either grouchy or outright rage. But Nicholson can be a terrifying gangster or that goofy next door neighbor.

I really gained a lot of respect for Nicholson when he did About Schmidt. He became a realistic old man who many people could relate to. Amazing film and performance.

Jaymole 08-27-12 12:50 PM

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If you would have asked me this 15 years ago I would have said DeNiro.

But after 15 years of DeNiro just going through the motions, I give a slight edge to Nicholson.

wm lopez 08-27-12 05:02 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 11361588)
Nicholson's legacy: FIVE EASY PIECES, THE LAST DETAIL, CHINATOWN, ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST

DeNiro's legacy: MEAN STREETS, TAXI DRIVER, RAGING BULL, GOODFELLAS

So they're tied.

Throw in Nicholson's "early funny" movies for Corman (LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS and THE RAVEN) and DeNiro's "early funny" movies for Brian De Palma (GREETINGS, HI MOM) and...

...they're still tied.

DeNiro: THE DEER HUNTER
Tie is broken DeNiro wins!

Arpeggi 08-27-12 05:15 PM

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Jack

inri222 08-27-12 05:34 PM

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wm lopez 08-28-12 04:30 PM

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DeNiro did a movie with Jack and had a scene together and DeNiro gave the better performance.
DeNiro also gave the better performance over Brando( THE SCORE),Pacino(HEAT).

inri222 08-28-12 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wm lopez (Post 11363223)
DeNiro did a movie with Jack and had a scene together and DeNiro gave the better performance

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FRwL 08-28-12 07:54 PM

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^Yep pretty much.

Fuck Nicholson.

wm lopez 08-29-12 04:48 PM

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Like 70's Jack is like 80's which is also like 90's Jack.
70's Pacino is no more.
DeNiro gave different fine performances in 70's, 80's and 90's.

lamphorn 08-30-12 10:50 AM

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DeNiro is the better actor, but the question is who do you prefer. I prefer Nicholson, hands down. Now, we're talking about two brilliant, brilliant performers, so this is no diss on DeNiro. But any guy who can capture Kubrick's imagination gets an edge with me. Also, I'll take Chinatown any day over Taxi Driver(which is a classic), Raging Bull (so Euro-artsy and bleak that aside from a couple of great scenes and a pretty opening, it's barely watchable... be honest), or Goodfellas (very good, but I'm never in the mood to rewatch it). Call me fuckin' nuts, but I think Scorsese (with the exception of Taxi Driver) has made better movies with DiCaprio (give me the Aviator ANY fucking time over Raging Bull). DeNiro's crowning achievment in my opinion is his performance in Godfather 2 (the whole movie should've been about him instead of that boring and incomprehensible stuff about Michael, Fredo, and Lee Strasberg).

Currently if Nicholson appears in a movie, I know it has a good chance of being interesting. Currently if DeNiro appears in a movie, I know it's another Fockers sequel. I can't think of anything good he's done since Jackie Brown.

Nicholson can turn in a fantastic comedic performance. The closest DeNiro has gotten to actually being funny is the scene in Jackie Brown in the parking lot between him and Bridget Fonda. DeNiro is not funny but has been doing nothing but bad comedies for years now, which tells me he has no idea what the hell he's doing these days.

Anyway, love DeNiro and have no problem conceding he's a more talented actor if your standard is the ability to transform into various dramatic characters. But as a performer on screen, I prefer Nicholson's style and movies.

Larry C. 08-30-12 10:54 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by CloverClover (Post 11360222)
Nicholson is better at owning the screen and carrying a film based on his acting/presence alone. DeNiro is better at the craft, meshing with his character and living in the reality of the film.

:thumbsup:

inri222 08-30-12 11:28 AM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by lamphorn (Post 11365274)
Call me fuckin' nuts, but I think Scorsese (with the exception of Taxi Driver) has made better movies with DiCaprio (give me the Aviator ANY fucking time over Raging Bull).

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Ash Ketchum 08-30-12 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wm lopez (Post 11362030)
DeNiro: THE DEER HUNTER
Tie is broken DeNiro wins!

You won me over. I just voted for DeNiro. Thanks!

wm lopez 08-30-12 03:15 PM

Re: Nicholson VS DeNiro
 

Originally Posted by lamphorn (Post 11365274)
DeNiro is the better actor, but the question is who do you prefer. I prefer Nicholson, hands down. Now, we're talking about two brilliant, brilliant performers, so this is no diss on DeNiro. But any guy who can capture Kubrick's imagination gets an edge with me. Also, I'll take Chinatown any day over Taxi Driver(which is a classic), Raging Bull (so Euro-artsy and bleak that aside from a couple of great scenes and a pretty opening, it's barely watchable... be honest), or Goodfellas (very good, but I'm never in the mood to rewatch it). Call me fuckin' nuts, but I think Scorsese (with the exception of Taxi Driver) has made better movies with DiCaprio (give me the Aviator ANY fucking time over Raging Bull). DeNiro's crowning achievment in my opinion is his performance in Godfather 2 (the whole movie should've been about him instead of that boring and incomprehensible stuff about Michael, Fredo, and Lee Strasberg).

Currently if Nicholson appears in a movie, I know it has a good chance of being interesting. Currently if DeNiro appears in a movie, I know it's another Fockers sequel. I can't think of anything good he's done since Jackie Brown.

Nicholson can turn in a fantastic comedic performance. The closest DeNiro has gotten to actually being funny is the scene in Jackie Brown in the parking lot between him and Bridget Fonda. DeNiro is not funny but has been doing nothing but bad comedies for years now, which tells me he has no idea what the hell he's doing these days.

Anyway, love DeNiro and have no problem conceding he's a more talented actor if your standard is the ability to transform into various dramatic characters. But as a performer on screen, I prefer Nicholson's style and movies.

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Meglos 08-30-12 03:42 PM

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say buh wah?


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