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07-22-12, 08:35 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
She tells Gordon to out the tracker on the wrong truck. So when they try to chase it down later Gordon goes to the wrong one first. Plus, right after they tag the truck they get captured and taken to court. All Talia's doing.
Also it is right after the Special Service men meet with Talia and Fox they get killed.
07-22-12, 08:35 PM
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They've spent literally three movies hammering home the point that Batman is as much a symbol to inspire Gotham as he is a "hero". Setting that symbol up to let everyone know he was back was just as important (if not more so, since the knowledge that he was back inspired the police force to fight back) as him actually being there, especially since he needed to spread the word that he was back quickly, since the bomb would've gone off the very next day.
The complaints about the bat-symbol are the complaints I just do not get. They show a fundamental misunderstanding of what Bruce believes Batman to be, and of the main theme that the movies have consistently pointed out.
It's crystal clear why he had to do something like that.
The complaints about the bat-symbol are the complaints I just do not get. They show a fundamental misunderstanding of what Bruce believes Batman to be, and of the main theme that the movies have consistently pointed out.
It's crystal clear why he had to do something like that.
07-22-12, 08:40 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Although from the situation on screen it did look like a happy coincidence that they were at the same place. Then again, we know what Gordon said about those...
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07-22-12, 08:49 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Well, certainly neck and neck with ROTK for being the best 'part 3' of any series. Just when it looked like things were going to be rather conventional and a bit underwhelming, the twist hits and I loved every minute of it after. Couldn't have been happier with how it ended.
Like others have said, the only real downside is that we're probably not getting more of these. The logistics of productions this big going past three is still pretty unheard of, I think Nolan knew it..and he gave us two epic sequels rather than just 2hr cookie-cutter films with one or two villains.
Like others have said, the only real downside is that we're probably not getting more of these. The logistics of productions this big going past three is still pretty unheard of, I think Nolan knew it..and he gave us two epic sequels rather than just 2hr cookie-cutter films with one or two villains.
07-22-12, 08:54 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
They've spent literally three movies hammering home the point that Batman is as much a symbol to inspire Gotham as he is a "hero". Setting that symbol up to let everyone know he was back was just as important (if not more so, since the knowledge that he was back inspired the police force to fight back) as him actually being there, especially since he needed to spread the word that he was back quickly, since the bomb would've gone off the very next day.
The complaints about the bat-symbol are the complaints I just do not get. They show a fundamental misunderstanding of what Bruce believes Batman to be, and of the main theme that the movies have consistently pointed out.
It's crystal clear why he had to do something like that.
The complaints about the bat-symbol are the complaints I just do not get. They show a fundamental misunderstanding of what Bruce believes Batman to be, and of the main theme that the movies have consistently pointed out.
It's crystal clear why he had to do something like that.
-a stupid Batman
07-22-12, 09:04 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
The complaints about the bat-symbol are the complaints I just do not get. They show a fundamental misunderstanding of what Bruce believes Batman to be, and of the main theme that the movies have consistently pointed out.
It's crystal clear why he had to do something like that.
It's crystal clear why he had to do something like that.
07-22-12, 09:05 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
That one Captain (who ended up dying anyway), and I'm willing to be many of the officers, would never have returned...and certainly wouldn't have fought as hard as they did had they not seen that symbol. Not to mention that the people fighting with him was what even gave Batman time to fight Bane and then deal with the bomb.
I already did, for some reason, in quoting my post you seem to have purposefully deleted that argument.
07-22-12, 09:06 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Pretty much all my criticism of the movie has been said by others and most of it applies to all 3 films in the series anyway. Sloppy writing, inept action sequences, contempt for the source material, Nolan's apparent fear of entertaining his audience, A-list actors phoning it in etc.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
07-22-12, 09:22 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Couple more:
She tells Gordon to out the tracker on the wrong truck. So when they try to chase it down later Gordon goes to the wrong one first. Plus, right after they tag the truck they get captured and taken to court. All Talia's doing.
Also it is right after the Special Service men meet with Talia and Fox they get killed.
She tells Gordon to out the tracker on the wrong truck. So when they try to chase it down later Gordon goes to the wrong one first. Plus, right after they tag the truck they get captured and taken to court. All Talia's doing.
Also it is right after the Special Service men meet with Talia and Fox they get killed.
07-22-12, 09:25 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Yeah, but I meant that Alfred was able to track the necklace (at least I believe that's what he did), finding Bruce and Selina, thus all four people at his funeral were given something to indicate he is alive (or that the legacy will continue).
Although from the situation on screen it did look like a happy coincidence that they were at the same place. Then again, we know what Gordon said about those...
Although from the situation on screen it did look like a happy coincidence that they were at the same place. Then again, we know what Gordon said about those...
07-22-12, 09:31 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Pretty much all my criticism of the movie has been said by others and most of it applies to all 3 films in the series anyway. Sloppy writing, inept action sequences, contempt for the source material, Nolan's apparent fear of entertaining his audience, A-list actors phoning it in etc.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
Say what you want about all 3 Batmans but to imply that at no point were any of the 3 of them entertaining is asinine. I'm the furthest thing from a fanboy but I, and most of the movie going public, was greatly entertained by all 3. Congrats on being part of the 1%.
07-22-12, 09:36 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Pretty much all my criticism of the movie has been said by others and most of it applies to all 3 films in the series anyway. Sloppy writing, inept action sequences, contempt for the source material, Nolan's apparent fear of entertaining his audience, A-list actors phoning it in etc.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
It was subtle in the the other threads (calling BB a "bomb"), but I see you decided to just let loose when people started saying good things about the films again.
07-22-12, 09:37 PM
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I watched The Dark Knight Rises again, and I enjoyed it more the second time around. If I had to vote again, I might bump my rating up to 3.5 (whereas I gave it 3 stars before). I still think this film is the weakest of the trilogy, but it is definitely entertaining and poignant.
07-22-12, 09:55 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
First of all, I clearly said it WASN'T a bomb. I clearly said it was a disappointment without being a bomb. Glitter was a bomb. Gigli was a bomb. Batman Begins wasn't a bomb but it still struggled to do the business TDK and TDKR will do in a couple weeks in its entire theatrical run.
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
07-22-12, 10:03 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
First of all, I clearly said it WASN'T a bomb. I clearly said it was a disappointment without being a bomb. Glitter was a bomb. Gigli was a bomb. Batman Begins wasn't a bomb but it still struggled to do the business TDK and TDKR will do in a couple weeks in its entire theatrical run.
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
07-22-12, 10:06 PM
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07-22-12, 10:09 PM
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why would he need to track it? Alfred told Bruce where he was every year and what he was doing. not that hard for him to show up on the day Alfred was there.
07-22-12, 10:12 PM
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Thank you. And this very site gave the recent Shout Factory complete-series release of The Sarah Silverman Program a glowing review.
So far none of the Nolan fanboys has the guts to watch it and admit that there's a cliche moment of hackery in one of his movies.
So far none of the Nolan fanboys has the guts to watch it and admit that there's a cliche moment of hackery in one of his movies.
07-22-12, 10:13 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
Pretty much all my criticism of the movie has been said by others and most of it applies to all 3 films in the series anyway. Sloppy writing, inept action sequences, contempt for the source material, Nolan's apparent fear of entertaining his audience, A-list actors phoning it in etc.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
The one mind-blowingly-hilarious "I can't believe people think this guy deserves an Oscar!" moment?
The montage where a scene of carnage plays out in silence with a solemn vocal performance serves as the soundtrack. In this case it was The Star Spangled Banner but it's usually Amazing Grace and it's such a tired trope that it's even been parodied, most memorably in "The Sarah Silverman Program."
It's so embarrassing that I think Nolan should be permanently banned from ever receiving a nomination in any category by AMPAS.
And yet you keep watching ALL of Nolan's films. You're a glutton for punishment.
07-22-12, 10:16 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
I will cop to kinda liking "Memento" though but I literally have to wait like 5 years between viewings because it pretty much falls apart when you know all the twists and turns. It's kind ironic that I have to forget the "secrets" to enjoy it.
07-22-12, 10:16 PM
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First of all, I clearly said it WASN'T a bomb. I clearly said it was a disappointment without being a bomb. Glitter was a bomb. Gigli was a bomb. Batman Begins wasn't a bomb but it still struggled to do the business TDK and TDKR will do in a couple weeks in its entire theatrical run.
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
You know why it "struggled?" Two words: Batman and Robin. People weren't sure what to expect. By the time Dark Knight came around, it was on.
07-22-12, 10:17 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
First of all, I clearly said it WASN'T a bomb. I clearly said it was a disappointment without being a bomb. Glitter was a bomb. Gigli was a bomb. Batman Begins wasn't a bomb but it still struggled to do the business TDK and TDKR will do in a couple weeks in its entire theatrical run.
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
Secondly, I think it's hilarious when ignorant fanboys bash Sarah Silverman when she's respected and praised as a comic's comic. I guess the people who don't respect that know comedy better than Louis CK, Conan O'Brien etc. And the parody in question doesn't even feature her, it's from a Brian/Steve B-plot from her brilliant TV show.
The episode is called "Not Without My Daughter" and everyone with NetFlix can watch it for free and see how Nolan is resorting to hackery that was being mocked 5 years ago. Watch that scene and tell me I'm "trolling."
What are you babbling about here?