Solid Snake

I think the marketing would've favored better if they better showed him that he was a man of Earth transported to Mars. To show what little there is of him in earth, and from a 10 min clip I posted they could've done well w/ it, and to show the amaze and wonderment of being all of a sudden transported to Mars. Make Mars an exotic and completely foreign world to the viewer. That would've been more epic. But like someone said..they just went w/ the whole Bruckheimer marketing mostly. One of the earlier trailers showed a bit of what I mentioned but still didn't sell it right.

Patman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BxeHQY1NuM

Solid Snake

let me embed that for ya:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-BxeHQY1NuM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

a bit choppy..but pretty much along the lines I mentioned. Better than the Disney guys' shit.

Ky-Fi

That's hilarious---a fan-made trailer that's VASTLY superior to what the Disney marketing crew could do, with all their resources.

edit: Wait, why am I laughing--I own 5 shares of Disney stock!

TimeandTide

Dude, just go see the fucking movie.

Solid Snake

I will. I'm just saying...marketing sucks when you read up on all that John Carter is.

Why So Blu?

See, now that's a bloody well made trailer!

Strevlac

I dunno. To me that looks just as dumb as the other trailers I've seen. It seems like you guys are just looking for something to blame the movies dissapointing box-office on.

Why So Blu?

Disney should hire the person who cut that trailer.

Xiroteus

That is a large budget for a film that they may not be sure about. (Not that you can ever be sure aside from some sequels and huge movies) Avatar cost a lot and was a risk because there was no way to know how well it would do.

Dr. DVD

That's 100x better than what they made, actually makes it look intriguing. Now if they could go and cut about half an hour from the movie, it would be perfect!

Why So Blu?

Well, John Carter came in #2 with 30 million and The Lorax came in #1 with with 39 million. I would not want to be a marketing Disney employee in the morning.

bluetoast

Does marketing also decide release dates and stuff like that? Because if so, that's one more thing to get fired for. We don't know what would happen if they released in the summer, but if you're Disney, losing to the Lorax is a big blow.

Edit: The intended release date was June 8, so they'd be coming the week after Men in Black, and directly competing with Snow White, Madagascar and Prometheus. They'd be far enough away from Batman and Spider-Man. I wonder what scared them off? Prometheus?

Brave would be coming up a few weeks later, maybe they didn't want to cannibalize that, especially with the Pixar connection, no matter how different the movies are.

Even so like I said before, this extra time could have helped to fine tune whatever issues they had.

mdc3000

The Disney marketing did suck pretty bad, but at least it wasn't like this:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nsawq3PBMms" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hokeyboy

FYI: John Carter has made $100 million worldwide in its opening weekend. How well it holds is another story, but let's not write it off as the biggest disaster since Disney's last biggest disaster quite yet.

Solid Snake

Aside from Spidey and Bats in release date time frame...my main fear would be Prometheus w/ MIB3 being 2nd. Prometheus being this big unknown threat at being an "original" epic film of sorts...or whatever you get my fucking point

PopcornTreeCt

Isn't Hunger Games coming out next week? Goodbye John Carter.

Pizza the Hutt

21 Jump Street, Casa de mi Padre and Jeff Who Lives at Home are next week. Hunger Games is opening the week after with absolutely no other new competition that weekend. It's gonna make more in its first three days then Carter will make in its entire domestic run.

dhmac

Why does the music in it sound like Led Zeppelin's Kashmir?

Hokeyboy

Fixed.

PenguinJoe

This is a better trailer but it reminds me too much of the Cowboys & Aliens trailer.

man*machine

I don't really recall how Disney cut together their official trailer to JOHN CARTER (I watched it once on-line a month or so ago), but I do remember thinking the movie looked very bland and generic. Just a lot of CGI creatures battling it out in the dusty brown desert. This fan trailer may be better made, but even so, the footage just looks generic and bland. When I picture Mars or some foreign planet, I'd prefer some color besides brown and some foreign looking terrain - or just something that doesn't look like it's all shot on location in Arizona. All you see is desert and more desert, and lots of CGI creatures. It simply looks BAD, and you can recut it in all different ways, and it will still look bad.

Now, I haven't seen the film, so I have no clue if there's some cool visuals besides CGI creatures fighting in the desert, and I may end up liking the film, but I am not paying theater rates to see this thing, strictly based on the footage I've seen. The title of the film is also seriously generic and I laugh every time I pass one of the million billboards for it across L.A.

By the way, I read these books when I was a kid and loved them so I am aware of this property. And I recall wishing for a movie version back in those days way before CGI made it possible. And when I heard they were making this film, I was excited. But once I saw footage, it just killed all my interest. I'm sure I'm not the only person out there that was simply turned off by what they saw. I think this would have even bombed harder if it opened in the summer, where it would even look more generic in comparison to all the usual summer generic action-dreck.

PenguinJoe

I can read the headlines for Kitsch's next movie as well "Battleship Sinks".

Dr. DVD

^ I wonder if Savages will get "savaged" by critics?

Hokeyboy

^^ I wonder if the reek of Hunger Games will be quite gamey?