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Old 09-22-12 | 02:58 AM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Wow. Well good for him, at least in the early 70's, hell even up to the Taxi Driver days. Today...not at all. Wait...does that mean he was fucking her during The Last Picture Show?

Anyway, as for this whole live singing thing, how does that translate into coverage, or for potential time shifts during the course of the song? Or does the camera follow the singer around for the duration of the song as well, is this the type of musical where all the songs take place "in one place"?

Also does anybody know what attracted Tom Hooper to this project? It seems highly unusual for someone coming off of a Best Director win.

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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Originally Posted by bluetoast
....is this the type of musical where all the songs take place "in one place"?
Far from it... There are narratively complex songs throughout the show... Montage songs with the leads all in different places, songs that indicate long time passages, and huge choral numbers (with both no-name and lead soloists) that take place *during* battles, to mention a few...

I'm much more interested in this now because of the live singing angle, but I don't have a clue how it will work. Do they have dozens (or hundreds) of people individually mic'd at once for mixing? It seems a very complex task. And the sound designers and music producers are gonna need to be brilliant to take all that live stuff and fashion a good post-production soundtrack. (I should say 2 soundtracks really, one for the movie itself and one for the music album...)

Really nice poster. If you already know the musical, that is--it's a "real person" take on the iconic Les Miz little girl logo...

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Old 10-11-12 | 06:53 PM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Live singing doesn't necessarily mean that all the parts are all being sung at once and everything filmed in real-time. They can still take disparate audio recordings and mix them into one song (for the large ensemble songs, for example). The live singing just means that the audio used will match the video that was filmed, rather than lip-syncing or dubbing.
Old 11-06-12 | 04:10 PM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

has anyone heard or read anything regarding the film's running time? I'm really curious in knowing how faithful it will be to the stage version (and if anything, namely a song will be deleted). I STILL don't understand the 'boat' scene' we've been seeing in the trailer and tv spot.

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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

I'm sure song(s) will be dropped, and at least one will be added for Oscar consideration.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

^ you mean a new song like in the vein of the musical film versions of Evita and Phantom of the Opera? oh please spare us.
Old 11-06-12 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Hopefully any new song will just be something in the end credits. As for cut songs, I at least hope that "One Day More" and "Bring Him Home" stay in.

The Rent movie cut my favorite song ("Christmas Bells").
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

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Hopefully any new song will just be something in the end credits. As for cut songs, I at least hope that "One Day More" and "Bring Him Home" stay in.

The Rent movie cut my favorite song ("Christmas Bells").
Rock of Ages cut my favorite song ('The Search is Over')

as for 'One Day More' and 'Bring Him Home' those are pretty integral songs to get jettisoned for the movie version - fans would crucify the director if those songs were cut.
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What a weird double feature this will be on x-mas day (Les Miserables and Django Unchained)
Old 11-06-12 | 09:25 PM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Originally Posted by Giles
has anyone heard or read anything regarding the film's running time?
2hr 32min, I believe. Before credits.
Old 11-06-12 | 11:14 PM
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I STILL don't understand the 'boat' scene' we've been seeing in the trailer and tv spot.
Saw the "new" version of the stage musical this past August and what you're seeing is the new opening with the chain gang singing "Look Down".

From what I've seen the movie will at least LOOK very similar to the stage version. Prime example is Fantine and the girls' uniform at the factory. I don't believe that was in the old version.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

the international trailer has more songs (Russell sings!) and speaking (!!) huh?

http://screenrant.com/les-miserables...ional-trailer/
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

That international trailer was fucking awesome. Easily my most anticipated movie of the year ever since I saw the teaser with Anne singing I Dreamed a Dream. Too bad so far that's the only song they're utilizing for the US trailers for the uncultured swine.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

I'm not sure what to make of Russell's singing voice. I don't question his acting ability at all but I was hoping his singing would have a bit more... oomph to it I guess. Perhaps I'm just used to hearing Javert sing with a very deep voice from the 10th and 25th anniversary concerts. Everyone else sounds terrific though. Hope a longer US trailer will get released.

Giles: I saw the show on Broadway, and seem to recall some spoken dialogue, just not very much. But it was almost 15 years ago so I guess things are a bit fuzzy.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

that international trailer looked fucking awesome! looking forward to reliving the Broadway experience i had as this was my first Broadway play ever.
Old 11-23-12 | 07:13 PM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

New trailer is good, but like Rent before it this movie seems to be trying to de-emphasize the musical aspect. I can tell they've added more dialogue than was in the stage version.
Old 11-23-12 | 07:57 PM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

That's a good way to get people like me to agree to see it when my gf asks. I'm not a fan of musicals that are contstantly... musical.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

The musical had very few moments (if any) where dialogue was spoken. See the new trailer was jarring, but reading the first unofficial reviews from today's Lincoln Center screening gives me a ton of hope.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rac...reening-393758
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Very promising, but I hope that the writer was a bit off in his "roughly two hours" statement about the length. This is Les Mis, it's supposed to be epic, so I was hoping for something closer to three hours.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

I don't think Samantha Barker will get a nom, the Eponine character is pretty minor aside from one great song. I honestly think that might be why Taylor Swift (or her agents) rejected the role. Hathaway might be shoo-in for a Supporting Actress nom, and the movie perhaps for Best Picture. However, this is a screening done for a bunch of artsy-minded New Yorkers. There is still a VERY strong possibility this will not do that well when it goes to Middle America. Kind of surprised they're doing a wide release.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Wow, this Yahoo Movies article is pretty ecstatic. Anne Hathaway is an Oscar lock and the film has a shot at the record for most nominations ever.

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"Les Miserables' first look: We saw it and Anne Hathaway killed
Hathaway is a slam-dunk for best supporting actress and "Les Miserables" is poised to take the most nominations including best picture.
By Thelma Adams | Yahoo! Movies – 10 hours ago


Anne Hathaway in 'Les Miserables' (Photo: Universal Pictures)

Anne Hathaway: Start writing your acceptance speech. Now that I've seen "Les Miserables," I can confirm that "The Dark Knight Rises" star, who plays the doomed factory-worker-turned-prostitute Fantine -- and sings her tonsils off -- has hit a very high note. In her supporting turn, Hathaway sings the signature song "I Dreamed a Dream" and brings the audience to tears. She's like musical meat tenderizer -- once the tears start flowing, they don't stop for the rest of the movie.

Director Tom Hooper (who won an Oscar for "The King's Speech" two years ago) cast Hathaway perfectly. She has star power to burn, has the bones to look good emaciated in rags -- and vocal talent. This is the kind of strong, critical supporting role that undeniably scores Oscars. (She'll get the Golden Globe, too!)

And here's something that I learned at the post-screening Q&A: Hathaway's mother, who was in the audience, played the role of Fantine in a Philadelphia production when Anne was only seven. Hathaway appeared onstage afterward, her hair having grown to an appealing, but still short, Peter Pan-pixie. In the movie, Fantine sells her locks to pay a debt, and Hathaway gave hers up on camera for the role. "When I eventually looked in the mirror I just thought I looked like my gay brother," she told the by-invitation-only audience.

I saw the movie at the very first public screening Friday at 3 P.M. at Lincoln Center's Alice Tully Hall. Also in attendance were Hathaway, Hooper and co-stars Eddie Redmayne, Amanda Seyfried and Samantha Barks. I brought my team of experts -- my two vocally-trained teenagers and their musician father. I admit it: I don't have a musical ear so I brought in some ringers. As the pumped-up crowd filled all the seats in the theater, I spied a man in the wings of the stage, drinking a bottle of water and pacing. I thought it was a stagehand but, no, when the house lights dimmed it turned out to be Hooper himself, pacing nervously and peeking through the curtains to get a look at the audience.

Oscar-winning Director Tom Hooper Gives Thanks

When the tall, jeans-clad English director -- last seen picking up his Oscar for "The King's Speech" two years ago -- took the stage, he opted for a charming humility. He told the capacity matinee audience: "I'm thankful that I've finished." He confessed that he'd completed the film at two a.m. He also quipped, "I'm grateful to Victor Hugo, who can't be here with us." The classic novel's author died in France in 1885.

The Audience Thanked Hooper with a Standing Ovation

Hooper didn't need to worry about the audience reaction. The crowd was as rapturous as tween girls at a "One Direction" concert. They greeted the conclusion of the many, many musical numbers with applause and clapped for the director and each performer at the end credits. If you tracked the applause, it seemed that Jackman, Crowe, Hathaway, Redmayne and newcomer Barks got a little extra love. Then came the standing ovation. Yes. And it was spontaneous.

But remember, it was spontaneous among a New York crowd of insiders anticipating a big success -- or a big failure.

Hathaway, Hooper, Redmayne, Seyfried and Barks live off screen

Then the stage lights came up on four director's chairs. The stage crew added more, and more, and then Columbia University professor Annette Insdorf introduced the talent: Hooper, Redmayne, Barks, and Hathaway -- but not Seyfried. "What kind of mother would I be if I didn't introduce my daughter, Amanda Seyfried," Hathaway generously corrected the oversight, referring to the actress who plays her child, Cosette, on screen. It turns out that Seyfried had played the role before in an amateur production at fifteen.

The discussion led off with what anybody who has seen the film's featurette at the movies (I saw it at the Poughkeepsie Galleria before "Skyfall" with a skeptical crowd of Bond watchers) already knows: the singing was all performed live so that the actors could both emote and sing. This method, in contrast to the common practice of laying down tracks beforehand and then lip synching on set, allows the actor more freedom and captures the spontaneity of live performance. The result is largely successful although there are times when both Jackman and Crowe seem to be delivering songs in that chat-sing way that recalls Rex Harrison in "My Fair Lady."

Hugh Jackman will be nominated for best actor

As the protagonist Jean Valjean, Jackman goes from rotten-toothed battered convict to natty mayor to fugitive surrogate father, aging a good twenty years along the way. We knew he can sing -- he starred in "The Boy From Oz" on Broadway -- but there are times when he goes for the emotion and talks out the lyrics to the detriment of the melody. And, truth be told, the melodies of the songs become a little monotonous. (My husband claimed Neil Diamond's "I Am, I Said" started playing in his head.) In fact, Jackman may just be better than the material, and it's possible that my expectations were so high that I was a little disappointed. And, in the end, he's up against Daniel Day Lewis in "Lincoln," which is still the performance to beat as far as the Oscars go.

Crowe can sing, but Redmayne can sing better

Oscar-winner Crowe has a band and he can sing in a rich, powerful voice as the relentless antagonist Inspector Javert. We love him as the villain. But sometimes his delivery is a bit "yawning," an issue of diction. The revelation is Redmayne, as Marius the romantic revolutionary that falls in love with Cosette (Seyfried) at first sight. He just pulls out every stop in every scene he's in. His tortured, tearful songs of thwarted love prove that Hooper's commitment to live singing works. We've seen the actor before, most recently in "My Week with Marilyn," and I saw him on Broadway in the drama "Red," but this is the kind of performance that makes him pop. If "Les Miserables" will get one best supporting actor nomination in that race, I'm risking a bet on Redmayne.

'Les Miserables' will be nominated for best picture -- and could earn the most nominations ever

"Les Miserables" will definitely be among the five best picture nominees. As my Gold Derby colleague Tom O'Neil wrote after seeing the movie this weekend: "'Les Miserables' could set two records. One would be for most nominations. Currently, that honor is held by 'Titanic' (1997) and 'All About Eve' (1950), which earned 14... 'Les Miserables' could [also] set a record for most acting bids in one film."

Is 'Les Mis' a slam-dunk for Best Picture?

I wouldn't bet on the musical to win just yet. The field is competitive, with "Lincoln," "Argo," "Silver Linings Playbook" and "Zero Dark Thirty" in the mix. Another critical Oscar-race movie -- "Django Unchained" -- will screen this week in time for the New York Film Critics Circle to vote on the morning of December 3rd. Full disclosure: I'm a member and it's unlikely that "Les Mis" will win our best picture. It's just too mainstream for the group, which may honor "The Master," "Zero Dark Thirty," or "Lincoln." Or the Circle may go in a completely contrary direction and crown Michael Haneke's "Amour."

The takeaway: "Les Miserables" is a major contender, and a landmark movie adaptation of the wildly popular mega-musical that opened on Broadway in 1987 and satisfied a legion of bussed-in tourists. That said, given the huge wealth of talent -- not only in acting, singing, staging, costuming and directing -- I would have been more swept away if it had been channeled into a musical I like more, say, "A Little Night Music," "The Drowsy Chaperone," or "Promises, Promises."

"Les Miserables" won't premiere for the general public until Christmas Day
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BTW : This was mentioned in that Hollywood Reporter article but might not have been mentioned here yet -- there is indeed one new song included in this production. It's called "Suddenly" and is apparently very good. Considering the dearth of quality original movie songs that typically compete for this award, that might mean another Oscar here (but unlike last year when Brett from Flight of the Conchords won for "Man Or Muppet", this year we have some decent movie songs including Taylor Swift for "Safe & Sound" (from The Hunger Games), Adele for "Skyfall" and Florence Welch for "Breath of Life" (from Snow White & The Huntsman).

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Old 11-26-12 | 12:01 AM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Has anybody else been seeing those Regal ads for this nonstop the last couple months?
Old 11-26-12 | 12:04 AM
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

Yes. Non-stop is right. Now every time we go to a movie, my wife does the Hugh Jackman side-of-the-hand-into-the-palm thing as soon as that filmed intro begins.
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Re: Les Misérables (Dir : Tom Hooper) - Dec 7, 2012

It's good to hear early praise for the film ... though I'm still curious what "public" reaction will be. Any ideas when the review embargo ends?


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