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Old 10-19-12 | 01:13 AM
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Better than I expected, but doesn't tell much of the story. Actually leaves a lot more questions than answering ANY questions =/
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1 > 3 > 4 > 2.

There's a lot of promise with this entry, but I really can't blame Joost and Schulman as they clearly tried their best given the weak material. While there's more unique gimmicks on how to capture the footage a la Kinect and FaceTime, the film lacks payoffs. Instead the audience receives cheap cliches and no real story development.

There are some genuinely creepy moments, however, they're few and far between. When the film finally revs up its engine, it's too little too late as the film cuts to black.

Originally Posted by SuperJim88
Kinda of disappointing that they still used the same formula, tactics and pace for this 4th installment. Nothing was really scary. It actually turned out to be more predictable than scary. The story did progress a little more. I really wished they take a little more time prepping this film. It felt like they were on a deadline to get this one out by Halloween so there is no time to really be innovative.
The second and third entries had similar timeframes. While I think the second film is an absolute piece of shit, I loved the third entry. Joost and Schulman knew they couldn't go back to the well like its predecessor, so they made an absolute carnival ride of a horror film with jumps and scares at every turn. I was hoping this entry would be similar, but I was proved wrong.

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Was there a post credit scene?
I didn't stay as my friends wanted to leave. Instead, I got to see a teenage girl eat shit on her way out and spill popcorn and soda everywhere. However, according to the internet:

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As for the post-credits scene, it bears no immediate relationship to the main story and is no more then a small tease. If you’re curious, here’s a SPOILER breakdown.

An unknown person enters a convenience store on what appears to be a street in Mexico. He calls out in Spanish and is surprised by an old woman who talks quickly and urges him back out the door.

That’s it. The implication is that witches are elsewhere and creepy activity can’t be far behind.
Old 10-19-12 | 02:27 AM
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I haven't seen this one yet, but I'd rank them 2>1>3. I'll try to catch this in the next week or two.
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I thought the movie was ok. I'm not mad that I paid to see it, but this was easily the weakest of the bunch, though I admit that it was weak because the franchise is a known quantity now. If this was the second entry, I would have probably liked it better.

Sadly, this movie wasn't scary at all. Outside of one of the very last shots, there wasn't a single memorable scare in this movie. They relied too much on loud bangs that came from another point of the house for my tastes. The first movie had the girl being pulled from the bed, the second had the exploding kitchen, and the third had the upside down kitchen and floating sheet ghost. Maybe I'm over looking something, but there wasn't anything in 4 that left a similar impression for me. I guess the kinect stuff was supposed to be that for this movie, but I felt that resulting scare from that was lame (though the kinect dot effect looked cool).

Another thing that hurt this movie was the kid actors. I didn't buy into the demon seed so much, which was made especially bad in comparison to the child actor from Looper.

This movie also didn't add much to the lore of the franchise. I know these movies are strung together by paper thing shreads of connectivity, but I do like learning more about what's going on, and how things are connected. This movie didn't do anything with that, save for using recurring characters.

After that, it probably sounds like I hated the movie, but that definitely wasn't the case. It just was a bit lackluster, and I think it felt more like an short that was expanded into a full blown movie.
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
Sadly, this movie wasn't scary at all. Outside of one of the very last shots, there wasn't a single memorable scare in this movie. They relied too much on loud bangs that came from another point of the house for my tastes. The first movie had the girl being pulled from the bed, the second had the exploding kitchen, and the third had the upside down kitchen and floating sheet ghost. Maybe I'm over looking something, but there wasn't anything in 4 that left a similar impression for me. I guess the kinect stuff was supposed to be that for this movie, but I felt that resulting scare from that was lame (though the kinect dot effect looked cool).
There were a few moments I liked:
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  • The gag with Alex getting pulled from her bed as a nod to the first film.
  • Toby appearing through the Kinect sensor. The payoff with the Kinect sensor comes later on when Katie emerges from it.
  • The gag involving the knife in the kitchen. There was a lot of tension during those two moments, but I was disappointed there was not a death to result from it.
When comparing it to PA3, this was a serious let down as not much happened. Joost and Schulman were throwing new things at you every few minutes whereas in this entry, they're more on auto-pilot.

Another thing that hurt this movie was the kid actors. I didn't buy into the demon seed so much, which was made especially bad in comparison to the child actor from Looper.
I thought Robbie was creepy. When Wyatt was "possessed," it was ineffective.

This movie also didn't add much to the lore of the franchise. I know these movies are strung together by paper thing shreads of connectivity, but I do like learning more about what's going on, and how things are connected. This movie didn't do anything with that, save for using recurring characters.
This. I liked how PA3 ended on a big reveal with the hopes that PA4 would reveal even more. In fact, PA4 revealed nothing as there was no progress made.

To use an analogy: Paranormal Activity 4 is like watching a porno that cuts to black right when the money shot is about to happen.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel

To use an analogy: Paranormal Activity 4 is like watching a porno that cuts to black right when the money shot is about to happen.
I'm usually done before then anyway, does the rest of it do its job?
Old 10-19-12 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
There were a few moments I liked:
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  • The gag with Alex getting pulled from her bed as a nod to the first film.
  • Toby appearing through the Kinect sensor. The payoff with the Kinect sensor comes later on when Katie emerges from it.
  • The gag involving the knife in the kitchen. There was a lot of tension during those two moments, but I was disappointed there was not a death to result from it.
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I will give you that the knife scene was tense, but the lack of any payoff hurt that scene's impact for me. And I too liked moments from the movie, I just don't think any were iconic...at least iconic in this franchise. The biggest addition was the kinect sensor, and seing the outline of Tobey just felt a little corny to me. I was just waiting for that outline of the little boy Tobey to grow into something monstrous. That would have left me with a better impression of the kinect stuff.
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I thought the final five minutes or so were extremely intense. My theatre was going ape-shit. No, it didn't really answer the questions posed in PA3 but it sort of expanded the scope of the mythology.

I do wonder how many of these movies Paramount can make. The profits are incredible (PA2-4 all had tiny budgets of $5M). I say do just one more for an even five and hopefully end on a high note.
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I thought the final five minutes or so were extremely intense. My theatre was going ape-shit. No, it didn't really answer the questions posed in PA3 but it sort of expanded the scope of the mythology.

I do wonder how many of these movies Paramount can make. The profits are incredible (PA2-4 all had tiny budgets of $5M). I say do just one more for an even five and hopefully end on a high note.
Even not counting how much money they would lose if they stopped at 5, the answers to the questions we have cannot be fit into one film? I mean, there is still the back story of the boxes left in PA3 (like the 90's tapes), the dozen or so questions left after PA4, and then the end of PA4 with them being in Mexico.
Old 10-19-12 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Defiant1
I thought the final five minutes or so were extremely intense. My theatre was going ape-shit. No, it didn't really answer the questions posed in PA3 but it sort of expanded the scope of the mythology.
Expanded the mythology?

Spoiler:
While the shot of the hundreds of witches coming at the camera was creepy, based upon what we learned in PA3, we know there's a lot more evil out there. PA4 did nothing to expand upon that.

In fact, I'd argue there's no backyard in Henderson, NV that could contain all of those bitches in a backyard.

I do wonder how many of these movies Paramount can make. The profits are incredible (PA2-4 all had tiny budgets of $5M). I say do just one more for an even five and hopefully end on a high note.
PA2 actually had a budget of under $3M. PA3 and PA4 both had $5M budgets, but honestly, PA3 felt much larger in scope and size than PA4.

Originally Posted by jacob_b
Even not counting how much money they would lose if they stopped at 5, the answers to the questions we have cannot be fit into one film? I mean, there is still the back story of the boxes left in PA3 (like the 90's tapes), the dozen or so questions left after PA4, and then the end of PA4 with them being in Mexico.
As the Saw franchise proved, if you need to end the franchise, you can answer all of your unanswered questions (and leave the door open) within 90 minutes. While they might not be the most effective 90 minutes, it's do-able.
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PA is a juggernaut right now - something new needs to come along to take the reigns. PA dethroned Saw.
Old 10-19-12 | 11:28 PM
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Serious let down after part 3, which in my opinion was the best in the series. I think the gimmick is starting to wear itself out, but I wish I could learn more about the story already.
Old 10-20-12 | 02:28 AM
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I'm a huge fan of the franchise but this just felt phoned in. At the very least, a PA movie should be good for some cheap thrills but this one was lacking in even that. A few decent jump scares here and there but overall it was just weak. My recommendation for PA fans is to wait for the DVD. Its not worth the the cost of admission. For non-PA fans, just skip this one altogether.

The easy answer is that the premise is wearing thin but I'm not convinced yet that that is the case. PA3, the best in the series, did an amazing job slowly setting up the climax. This one didn't. I think that is why it failed.

Story (or lack thereof) was weak too. It tried to expand on the mythology but didnt accomplish that. However, I was surprised by the twist. It was well done and caught me off guard.
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http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/58571...al-activity-4/

What a disappointment.
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What a joke. I was seriously dissapointed. I was hoping that maybe it'd at least surpass 2, but I honestly think it was the worst Found Footage film I've ever seen.

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Why did Alex stop looking at the footage? I know she was having troubles but her boyfriend was over often enough. She KNEW she had footage after the whole car garage that she could've used to show her parents she wasn't crazy.
Why did her brother have a bunk-bed anyway?
Why did they take the time to cover her parents marital troubles and never let that come to a head?
The stupid jump-cuts intending to make you jump but instead became annoying very quickly...
Not one iconic haunting scene... Seriously, nothing of the caliber of the bed scene in PA1, the kitchen in PA2 and 3... or the ghost in sheets... or the panning camera... Nothing.
The Kinect was underutilized and could've amounted to so much more...
Who on earth leaves their laptops open and on 24/7 in many rooms of the house?
Who leaves their X-Box on 24/7?
What happened to Robby? Was Robby NOT Hunter? Alex's brother was Hunter? WHAT HAPPENED TO ROBBY? His 'mom' came back and he disappeared except for that quick shot in the treehouse.


Awful... Just awful... It wasn't scary, it was not very funny, and it didn't expand the mythology at all until the the very end, but we know so little already it didn't make much sense.

I will still go see a 5th one if the reviews say it's worth going, if only because I do believe there is still gas left in this vehicle, but you could easily skip this one and not miss a beat. Waste of my time.
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Just noticed this today. The actor who played the father died in September. I didn't see the entire end credits. Was there any acknowledgement of this? I know there wasn't one at the beginning of the credits.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...dra-lee-371290
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I dont know if its bad word of mouth or if people are not interested any longer, i went to a Sat night showing at 7:30 PM and the theater was not even half full.
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Five people, wife and I included, in our 3 PM showing today.

Man, this could've been something great. Lots of nice ideas but no payoff. Very frustrating. Even stayed for the after credit scene.
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I honestly think it was the worst Found Footage film I've ever seen.
Clearly you never saw The Devil Inside.
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Originally Posted by Robert
Just noticed this today. The actor who played the father died in September. I didn't see the entire end credits. Was there any acknowledgement of this? I know there wasn't one at the beginning of the credits.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...dra-lee-371290
Yeah there was.

On the note that the movie lost its novelty and what not, I don't think that's the case. It simply just did nothing at all to explain any answers and left us with more questions. Had the movie answered some questions, the fan based reviews would be better. I'm hoping that in part 5 or whatever it is they do (Mexico?) that they begin to tackle the history more and answer the questions.
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Originally Posted by jacob_b
I'm hoping that in part 5 or whatever it is they do (Mexico?) that they begin to tackle the history more and answer the questions.
The Hispanic/Mexican/whatever they're planning on will be a spin-off of the franchise that's more rooted in Catholicism. I don't know if they'll be exorcisms a la The Devil Inside or it'll retain to witches or what.

However, I assume it won't continue any of the history or story that the franchise has created/established up to now.
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Has anyone seen the Japanese PA spinoff, Tokyo Night?
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
The Hispanic/Mexican/whatever they're planning on will be a spin-off of the franchise that's more rooted in Catholicism. I don't know if they'll be exorcisms a la The Devil Inside or it'll retain to witches or what.

However, I assume it won't continue any of the history or story that the franchise has created/established up to now.
The Mexican portion of it sounds much more fascinating than all FOUR PA films put together. As a Mexican, there's much more scary shit embedded in Mexican folklore and terror than American folklore, imo. Seriously. The scripts would have to be top notch and the directors they decide to get should be competent. They better not cut corners on this spin-off.

It's also a great marketing/business move, because if an outside film came along and dethroned the PA franchise, then it would go the way of Saw. This way, with its own spin-off, they keep it in the family and keep the $$$$$ rolling in for many years to come.
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The scripts would have to be top notch and the directors they decide to get should be competent. They better not cut corners on this spin-off.
Christopher B. Landon, who has written the last three PA films, will write and direct the spin-off. Take that as you will.
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Christopher B. Landon, who has written the last three PA films, will write and direct the spin-off. Take that as you will.
Sad face. He's capable, because I did sort of like Burning Palms, but understand that PA is where the money comes in. I'm conflicted.


He better get a consultant or two.


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