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Old 01-01-12 | 12:38 PM
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I don't mind religious allegory in stories but, even on it's own terms, it's insulting to watch a story unfold where God allows millions worldwide to die just to renew the faith of one man.
Sounds about right to me, given the current religious discussion in Other right now.
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Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but I thought the aliens in Attack the Block were pretty good for a low-budget horror flick. They are basically guys in gorilla suits, but the way the filmmakers developed the film to "crush the contrast" and make the aliens appear completely dark (except for the mouth) worked really well to make them seem otherworldly. It was effective in the "less is more" kind of way.
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Well, yes and no. The Predators are only a little more badass than us.
Really???

Take the most bad ass human warrior ,and put him or her into an arena with just an average strength predator. No weapons.

I would always put my money on the predator.

But the odds would be so high for the predator to win, that I would be risking a grand to only make a hundo.... or maybe only 10 dollars.

So maybe I would bet on a human, if the odds warranted such a scenario where the payout on 10 dollars made me win something like 5 grand. But then it would be like me playing keno, in regards to my expectations of winning anything at all......
Old 01-01-12 | 03:01 PM
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I guess my main gripe with the predators, is that they don’t look like they are an extremely smart species.

Yes they look scary as shit

Yes they look much stronger and more agile than us

Yes we are definitely PREY, in association towards them

BUT NO GOD DAMMIT, they do not look like the type of species that is capable of understanding the concept of the Pythagorean theorem.

That thing would be too busy at kicking ass in its own wild habitat, and enjoying awesome fresh food, that it would never want to slow down, to think about science related shit. They are like great white sharks, that are on land, and have arms and legs instead of fins, and chase humans around effortlessly……….basically we would be fucked.

The great whites of the ocean are quite bad-ass in their water habitat, in terms of being a predator, but I do not see their brains ever reaching the level to be capable of understanding the concepts of gravity.

Besides, leaning about science is much more productive on land, as opposed to sea. Lighting a Bunsen burner in 7th grade science class for a great white shark is a very difficult task. This is why the dropout rate for great whites in school is so high. Most great white students are quoted as saying:

“Fuck it, I can’t light this fucking Bunsen burner thing underwater…… I am just going to do a shark dive straight out of the water, and then catch a seal in the process, before I land back in the ocean.

And I can do that for the rest of my life, WITHOUT the need of passing science class……”

The great white dropouts do have a good point…….And when the dropouts come home, to tell their parents that they have indeed dropped out, the parents think back to when they dropped out as well when they were younger, so the great white parents do not have much to go on, in regards to trying to change their child’s decision about dropping out.

The Predators would have this same mentality, they would give up on learning science, since it is such a waste of time, when they could be better spending their time, doing equally bad-ass things as doing a shark dive out of the ocean, in order to catch and eat their prey.
The Predator society on homeworld could be a class society. Warrior class, science class, religious class, etc.
Old 01-01-12 | 03:05 PM
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Let's say someone proposes the following "trip" for you: You are going to visit a planet that has more than 70% of its surface covered by sulfuric acid. Sulfuric acid regularly falls from the sky. Every morning every plant and surface (especially corn fields) is coated with a sulfuric acid "dew". And you're going to make this trip NAKED.
Why would anyone go to Pittsburg?
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Originally Posted by Cellar Door
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but I thought the aliens in Attack the Block were pretty good for a low-budget horror flick. They are basically guys in gorilla suits, but the way the filmmakers developed the film to "crush the contrast" and make the aliens appear completely dark (except for the mouth) worked really well to make them seem otherworldly. It was effective in the "less is more" kind of way.
I liked the look, but science nerd that I am, can't figure out why a creature that's designed to melt into shadows would have bioluminescent teeth. Defeats the purpose.
Old 01-01-12 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
I liked the look, but science nerd that I am, can't figure out why a creature that's designed to melt into shadows would have bioluminescent teeth. Defeats the purpose.
True, although the aliens themselves apparently don't have eyes and use some kind of pheremone sensors to track things, so it's possible that their darkness isn't actually a camouflage adaptation in their native environment.
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Possible, but they're clearly carnivores. Also, if they don't have eyes, they have no need of bioluminescent teeth.
Old 01-01-12 | 03:43 PM
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Characteristics that aren't "needed" can develop in an organism, as long as there is no selective pressure against it. And sometimes adaptations can remain that were once beneficial but aren't anymore. Without knowing a lot more about the background of the creatures, we can't really criticize their biology as flawed.

Of course the real reason for the glowing teeth is that it's a horror movie and they look scary.
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Of course. I was just being extra nerdy today.
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Old 01-03-12 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rw2516
Why would anyone go to Pittsburg?
Old 01-03-12 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Danger
Maybe those Predator guys are just on a big-game safari, and have to be back at work by the end of the month.
That's a Predator movie I'd love to see... coming back to the wife and kids, the crappy job.
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The Predator society on homeworld could be a class society. Warrior class, science class, religious class, etc.
I don't know.......with the ability to travel at an interstellar level, the likelihood of a religious class AND a science class seems unlikely.
Old 01-03-12 | 06:34 PM
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Well, think about it this way, we have creatures on our planet that look dumb but are very intelligent like crows and raccoons. They don't look like they'd be smart but they can outsmart us humans on a daily basis. I understand the complaint of the Cowboys and Aliens movie where they look like Hellboy combined with a blue Gollum. Problem here as big as the alien issue is that the "demons" are no better as well in Hollywood, anyone watch the Don't Be Afraid of the Dark remake? Take a look at bats from the latest King Kong movie, look at Gollum from Lord of the Rings, look at the fucking little "fairies" from the "Don't Be Afraid of the Dark" remake and see the pattern there as well. That's one plus coming out of Paranormal Activity trilogy is that we don't see the demon, but we can tell he has a human shadow and dinosaur foot prints, perhaps he's Reptile from Mortal Kombat... Now enough with that before I stray too far, lol.

We can't seem to get any innovative designs these days, why must we turn to video games for more appealing aliens and monsters?

Originally Posted by andy434343
I hope to see a more realistic expectation of what an alien would actually look like.

If aliens ever come and publicly let themselves be known to all of mankind, then I can only assume that they are somewhat humanoid in appearance.

I feel this because I could only assume that this alien is in someway related to the creation of us (even if only remotely).

The space jockey in the Prometheus trailer looks like a super-tall, humanoid resembling...... alien. I like Ridley Scott's interpretation of an alien......

I am hoping that this interpretation of an realistic alien, will be an alien creature design that does not suck so much.......lately.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
Possible, but they're clearly carnivores. Also, if they don't have eyes, they have no need of bioluminescent teeth.
Actually this could make perfect sense - the bioluminescence could attract its native prey just like deep-sea anglerfish. It would make perfect sense for their teeth to glow to draw prey close to their mouths. Bioluminescence is rarely about creating light to see by.
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Originally Posted by andy434343
I don't know.......with the ability to travel at an interstellar level, the likelihood of a religious class AND a science class seems unlikely.
Science and religion have often co-existed in societies. Generally one fills the void left by a lack of understanding of the other. (Whichever way you want to accept that.)
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That's a Predator movie I'd love to see... coming back to the wife and kids, the crappy job.
Cityslickers ... but with Predators. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I just might pay to see that.
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The creatures in "Cowboys and Aliens" looked like something straight out of Ben-10.
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Cityslickers ... but with Predators. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I just might pay to see that.
So would I. Sans the shame.
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Damnit...I'd actually would want to see that too.
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Science and religion have often co-existed in societies. Generally one fills the void left by a lack of understanding of the other. (Whichever way you want to accept that.)
True......but the only proof that you have to show for this is the history of human civilization.

If we ever got to the point of being in a civilization which also contained interstellar travel, religion would merge into a theory subject....... WITHIN science.
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True......but the only proof that you have to show for this is the history of human civilization.

If we ever got to the point of being in a civilization which also contained interstellar travel, religion would merge into a theory subject....... WITHIN science.
The Covenant begs to differ.
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True......but the only proof that you have to show for this is the history of human civilization.

If we ever got to the point of being in a civilization which also contained interstellar travel, religion would merge into a theory subject....... WITHIN science.
We're talking about movie aliens. The Minbari on Babylon 5 had a religious class. The Force has been called a religion. Don't the Vulcans have logic as a type of religion.

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