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PopcornTreeCt 12-30-11 12:07 AM

Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
I recently watched Cowboys & Aliens and the aliens were terrible looking. Big hulking beasts, yet at the same time could command a spaceship... won't get into the movie but the design was uninspired and lame. As were the aliens in Cloverfield and Super 8. District 9 was a little better but still not that great.

What's the deal?

The Antipodean 12-30-11 12:45 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
Mmm, the whole "insectoid thing with body parts that open up on each other with random teeth inside" is pretty overdone, isn't it? Alien/predator great movies but a lot to answer for!

SuckaMC 12-30-11 01:08 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
Battle Los Angeles has some cool bio-mechanical aliens.

Shut up. I liked that movie.

Josh-da-man 12-30-11 01:35 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by popcorntreect (Post 11058999)

what's the deal?

cgi.

RocShemp 12-30-11 01:40 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by SuckaMC (Post 11059027)
Battle Los Angeles has some cool bio-mechanical aliens.

Shut up. I liked that movie.

I liked that movie and how the aliens behaved. However the concept of the aliens was far better than their execution. They looked like stick figures with footballs for heads.

I much prefered the look of the aliens in Cowboys and Aliens.

PhantomStranger 12-30-11 01:40 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 11058999)
What's the deal?

Modern videogame design has made the audiences that Hollywood goes after (the under-25 crowd) expect only a few standard alien templates in their entertainment. It's all Halo's and Resistance's fault.

Artman 12-30-11 03:05 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
I believe it's the same concept artist that works on the Abrams projects (Cloverfield, Star Trek, Super 8) so that would account for the similarities there. Not sure who worked on Cowboys v Aliens. Personally I like the style, to me it's interesting and worked for those projects. But going forward, I think something different would be better, rather than repeating the same design too much.

riotinmyskull 12-30-11 03:09 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
because stan winston is dead

OldBoy 12-30-11 04:34 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 11059059)
because stan winston is dead

good answer.

Supermallet 12-30-11 04:39 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
I definitely blame whoever Abrams is using. Cloverfield, Super 8, and Star Trek all had these terrible, ill-formed aliens where you couldn't make out what part of it you were meant to be looking at.

TGM 12-30-11 06:35 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
yeah, they used to be wayyy better

http://i.imgur.com/mzhTZ.jpg

Ash Ketchum 12-30-11 06:40 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
The best alien design...
http://factoidz.com/images/user/dayt...obbyrennie.jpg
...and the cheapest, too!

Navinabob 12-30-11 06:41 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
I dug Cloverfield's design as seen in the film, once you pulled it away and looked at the model it didn't look so great. But in those far away shots with rockets and tanks it looked pretty epic. As much as I like the design of Predators and Aliens, they can be shitty if filmed poorly (like in the Aliens vs. Predator movies). Design is only one part of the puzzle.

TGM 12-30-11 07:00 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
ahhh, the golden age

http://i.imgur.com/kaxfs.jpg

Obey The D 12-30-11 09:32 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by TallGuyMe (Post 11059091)
yeah, they used to be wayyy better

http://i.imgur.com/mzhTZ.jpg

What does a picture of Christina Hendricks husband have to do with this thread?

islandclaws 12-30-11 10:10 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11059076)
I definitely blame whoever Abrams is using. Cloverfield, Super 8, and Star Trek all had these terrible, ill-formed aliens where you couldn't make out what part of it you were meant to be looking at.

This is what I was going to say. I read an interview with that guy once where he talked about how he tries to make all of his creatures "unique", and all I could think was "are you fucking kidding me?". Super 8 needed an alien design that would blow everyone out of the water. Instead, we got the smaller cousin of Cloverfield.

PenguinJoe 12-30-11 10:27 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
I really liked the District 9 prawns. I like it when aliens look humanoid none of this Transformers robot shit.

davidh777 12-30-11 10:57 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by TallGuyMe (Post 11059091)
yeah, they used to be wayyy better

http://www.backtotheeighties.net/images/alf11.jpg

Roybq 12-30-11 11:19 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
I'll see your Alf and give you...Mork!

http://www.google.com/url?source=img...mZ3AdDn4s54rbA

Roybq 12-30-11 11:22 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
Oh, wait...you're talking movie aliens. Here you go:
http://www.google.com/url?source=img...JqgUQef9iBZUlQ

For every really cool alien, there's things like this. Some have more imagination than others, I guess.

PopcornTreeCt 12-30-11 11:59 AM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
For the low budget I think it looks pretty well. It's when these movies spend upwards of $150 million I expect to be blown away.

For the record, my favorites are the Xenomorph in Alien and E.T. The original Star Wars aliens are also some of my favorites.

Dr. DVD 12-30-11 01:18 PM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
I agree with the statement regarding Stan Winston being dead. Also, H.R. Giger is not consulted anywhere near the amount he should be for creature design.

Guru Askew 12-30-11 03:01 PM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 
Everything old is awesome and everything new is stupid.

The Antipodean 12-30-11 03:28 PM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11059391)
I agree with the statement regarding Stan Winston being dead. Also, H.R. Giger is not consulted anywhere near the amount he should be for creature design.

See I would argue that Giger is consulted - or rather, ripped off -- too much! While his original designs were fantastic, too many movies these days take the template used in Alien and just offer half-assed copies of it.

Supermallet 12-30-11 03:58 PM

Re: Why do alien creature designs suck so much lately?
 

Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 11059443)
Everything old is awesome and everything new is stupid.

Yep, that's the argument we've been making in this thread.


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