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wearetheborg , 07-27-10 03:36 PM
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With the recently released Batman:Under the Red Hood; I've been wondering on how animated theatrical films for Superman/Xmen/Avengers etc would do, with more sophisticated CGI/animation.
Thoughts?
EDIT: I think I was not clear enough. Yes, Batman: Under the Red Hood would not survive theatrically; but what about a bigger budget, (much) better animated version of Batman: Under the Red Hood ?
Eg., see this movie clip posted by Hokeyboy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43GIgDHOTFY
New URL: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...niverse/702050
Thoughts?
EDIT: I think I was not clear enough. Yes, Batman: Under the Red Hood would not survive theatrically; but what about a bigger budget, (much) better animated version of Batman: Under the Red Hood ?
Eg., see this movie clip posted by Hokeyboy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43GIgDHOTFY
New URL: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...niverse/702050
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Put it this way: an animated Star Wars movie barely broke $30 million. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm also stiffed in 1992, and it was actually *GOOD*.
I think big-budget original properties are the way to go. INCREDIBLES, main example. The upcoming MEGAMIND will also probably make a mint.
I think big-budget original properties are the way to go. INCREDIBLES, main example. The upcoming MEGAMIND will also probably make a mint.
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Then again, if it came out anywhere as remotely cool as this DCU Online trailer? I'm ALL in! 
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Bob_Bobbson , 07-27-10 04:06 PM
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I think that any kind of Superhero movie done by Pixar would do very well commercialy (and probably critically). After the Incredibles, I thought it would be interesting to see what they could do with the Fantastic Four.Originally Posted by wearetheborg
With the recently released Batman:Under the Red Hood; I've been wondering on how animated theatrical films for Superman/Xmen/Avengers etc would do, with more sophisticated animation.Thoughts?
I figure it's possible too, now that Disney owns both Pixar & Marvel.
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notkevinbacon , 07-27-10 04:18 PM
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^ Eh, I'm not sure I'd like to see Pixar get mixed up in anything that isn't an original property or idea. Seems like there would be too many cooks in the kitchen or interference from the other parties.
Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.
Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.
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Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.
+1 Originally Posted by notkevinbacon
^ Eh, I'm not sure I'd like to see Pixar get mixed up in anything that isn't an original property or idea. Seems like there would be too many cooks in the kitchen or interference from the other parties. Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.

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Bob_Bobbson , 07-27-10 04:37 PM
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Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.
I do agree to an extent. The thing is, I thought with the fact that all they have on their plate currently is sequels, it could be a nice change of pace.Originally Posted by notkevinbacon
^ Eh, I'm not sure I'd like to see Pixar get mixed up in anything that isn't an original property or idea. Seems like there would be too many cooks in the kitchen or interference from the other parties. Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.
Granted, if the upcoming sequels maintain the quality of Toy Story 3, I agree they should focus more on what they have going now.
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Check out HIGHLANDER: SEARCH FOR VENGEANCE and BATMAN GOTHAM KNIGHT. I wish they'd been released theatrically. But then, I felt that THE INCREDIBLES should have been done in WATCHMEN-style comic book-resembling 2-D animation. The opening segment of INCREDIBLES was the only part I liked.
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I couldn't help but to stare at Wonder Woman's ass. They made her with a nice 'fatty' I was Superman I be railing that 24/7 Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Then again, if it came out anywhere as remotely cool as this DCU Online trailer? I'm ALL in! 
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I've never been a fan of the DC animation style they've been using for the last decade+. Something like this, on the other hand, would be freakin' awesome!Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Then again, if it came out anywhere as remotely cool as this DCU Online trailer? I'm ALL in! 
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They would most definitely result in box office failures. There's a stigma, at least shared by people I know, that if they are going to pay to see a film in the cinema, on the big screen, they don't want to watch a cartoon. Animated adaptations of Superhero films are essentially only purchased by fans of the comics and/or kids. The films usually find some kind of success on Blu Ray/DVD, but I seriously doubt a movie like Batman: Under the Red Hood would survive theatrically.
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wearetheborg , 07-27-10 06:41 PM
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I think I was not clear enough. Yes, Batman: Under the Red Hood would not survive theatrically; but what about a bigger budget, (much) better animated version of Batman: Under the Red Hood ?Originally Posted by Blu Man
The films usually find some kind of success on Blu Ray/DVD, but I seriously doubt a movie like Batman: Under the Red Hood would survive theatrically.
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wearetheborg , 07-27-10 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Then again, if it came out anywhere as remotely cool as this DCU Online trailer? I'm ALL in! 
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Dam!!
That would be one fine movie!!
I think it should be doable with current animation technology.
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That was actually pretty awesome.
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Solid Snake , 07-27-10 10:10 PM
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If say...Pixar did an obscure Marvel group or character like..Power Pack....it'd get money cuz it's unknown.
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Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.
I agree with this completely. Pixar stands out for going against the grain with their unique and original stories, I would hate to seem them stuck with that type of source material. Not to mention, they already gave us their interpretation of the superhero genre with The Incredibles.Originally Posted by notkevinbacon
^ Eh, I'm not sure I'd like to see Pixar get mixed up in anything that isn't an original property or idea. Seems like there would be too many cooks in the kitchen or interference from the other parties. Pretty much this is based on the fact they are doing PHENOMENAL work right now and it's all very interesting and varied. When/If they start to get stale, I may change my tune.
Not saying they couldn't do it, just they shouldn't. IMHO, of course.
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wearetheborg , 07-28-10 08:25 AM
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OK, maybe not Pixar style, how about "Avatar" style? 

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I think the closest we will get to a CGI Marvel movie would be Tinkerbell style (ie Disney DTV CGI) With Disney owning Marvel it's only a matter of time
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Batman Under the Red Hood was fantastic. Best feature that DC animation has ever produced.
#21
I could see a 3D Animated super hero film being very successful. 3D animated films are still all the rage.
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Are you aware of this threads subject?Originally Posted by Thrush
Batman Under the Red Hood was fantastic. Best feature that DC animation has ever produced.
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I'm back and forth on whether or not this or Wonder Woman is their best release, but both are top notch. Originally Posted by Thrush
Batman Under the Red Hood was fantastic. Best feature that DC animation has ever produced.

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Awesome. I wish I had a PS3 to play it.Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Then again, if it came out anywhere as remotely cool as this DCU Online trailer? I'm ALL in! 
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wearetheborg , 07-28-10 12:20 PM
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