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Old 03-02-10 | 02:45 PM
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Old 03-02-10 | 03:06 PM
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Re: Oscar snubbs

The only obvious ones I can think of are Sharlto Copley (Leading Actor) for District 9, Watchmen for Visual Effects & Editing and Drag Me to Hell for Sound Design.
Old 03-02-10 | 03:07 PM
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totally agree on Copley. That was some damn fine acting.
Old 03-02-10 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jmu878
Yeah no shit...two of the best performances in history there outdone by something I've never even heard of.
Probably a case of the Pacino and Nicholson canceling each other out.
Old 03-02-10 | 04:21 PM
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Probably a case of the Pacino and Nicholson canceling each other out.
If that's how it worked, then hopefully Avatar & The Hurt Locker wash each other out for Inglourious Basterds this year.
Old 03-03-10 | 12:52 AM
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Re: Oscar snubbs

Originally Posted by hapgilmore
Feel free to leave this thread hater, Watchmen is a masterpiece.
No, it wasn't a masterpiece.

The sex scene stopped the movie dead, and was totally gratuitous and unnecessary. A better title would have been Attack of the 50-Foot Penis.

I agree with an earlier poster in calling Watchmen 'pretentious horseshit'.
Old 03-03-10 | 02:49 AM
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Re: Oscar snubbs

Well to be honest...that sex scene was in the graphic novel/comic. So....it seemed to be necessary overall to the character of Dan anyway.
Old 03-03-10 | 08:00 AM
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The problem wasn't the sex scene so much as the direction in those scenes, and the movie in general. Snyder did a pretty lousy job turning the pages into cinema.
Old 03-03-10 | 08:57 AM
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The problem wasn't the sex scene so much as the direction in those scenes, and the movie in general. Snyder did a pretty lousy job turning the pages into cinema.
See...I've heard this same opinion a bunch of times and I don't agree.

I never read the graphic novel but I saw the movie and liked it. Not a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination, but I liked it well enough. I'm now reading the graphic novel and SO FAR I like the movie way better. I'm only a little more than halfway through the graphic novel and I from what I've heard the ending is different and there are other differences too, but so far from what I've read, I like the movie better. There are things in the graphic novel that seem totally unnecessary and I think that the cool parts of the novel that the movie more or less emulated are fine in the movie and some of the things that were changed are better in the movie than in the novel.

Maybe I'll change my mind once I'm actually done reading it...if I ever get done as it's kind of a chore to get through. Every time anything about "Tales of the Black Freighter" show up I completely zone out. So far I fail to see how that has anything to do with anything. Again, I'm only halfway through so I might change my mind.

I guess my main point is that from what I've read in the novel (halfway though) I truly think the movie did a fine job and in some instances improved on the novel.
Old 03-03-10 | 08:58 AM
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Re: Oscar snubbs

Originally Posted by jmu878
If that's how it worked, then hopefully Avatar & The Hurt Locker wash each other out for Inglourious Basterds this year.
Won't happen due to the new "ranking" system.
Old 03-03-10 | 09:27 AM
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Re: Oscar snubbs

Only two glaring omissions in my book and both are for the actor category:

Sharlto Copely - District 9
Sam Rockwell - Moon
Old 03-03-10 | 09:50 AM
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See...I've heard this same opinion a bunch of times and I don't agree.

I never read the graphic novel but I saw the movie and liked it. Not a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination, but I liked it well enough. I'm now reading the graphic novel and SO FAR I like the movie way better. I'm only a little more than halfway through the graphic novel and I from what I've heard the ending is different and there are other differences too, but so far from what I've read, I like the movie better. There are things in the graphic novel that seem totally unnecessary and I think that the cool parts of the novel that the movie more or less emulated are fine in the movie and some of the things that were changed are better in the movie than in the novel.

Maybe I'll change my mind once I'm actually done reading it...if I ever get done as it's kind of a chore to get through. Every time anything about "Tales of the Black Freighter" show up I completely zone out. So far I fail to see how that has anything to do with anything. Again, I'm only halfway through so I might change my mind.

I guess my main point is that from what I've read in the novel (halfway though) I truly think the movie did a fine job and in some instances improved on the novel.
I wasn't the biggest fan of the GN but it wasn't bad, the movie told the key story points decently but it didn't succeed as an actual cohesive movie, imo, and was never particularly involving. It felt like a re-enactment of the GN panels, despite the differences, instead of an actual movie adaptation, and it ultimately came off as a somewhat fragmented, failed experiment.

Imo, Snyder didn't really know how to adapt it for the screen, comics and movies are two substantially different mediums. The movie gets a few points for attempting to break the mold of traditional cinematic storytelling, but it didn't succeed and he was more successful with 300 (which I also wasn't a big fan of). In comics the reader can compensate for the breaks between panels and ensure there is a good flow between them. Movies need a little more finesse and structure while moving from scene to scene - more to keep things involving than anything. Plus the characters were flatout bland in the movie, save for Rorschach.

It isn't a bad movie, I just think a certain group of people overpraise it to compensate for its average critical response and disappointing box office. Trying to make it into an overlooked classic that it isn't while ignoring the more obvious of its flaws. Of course, this is just like, my opinion, man.

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Old 03-03-10 | 12:29 PM
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Re: Oscar snubbs

Wait ... are we saying that nominations and wins are about quality and not pure Hollywood masturbatory sentiment? I'm confused.

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