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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by Jason
(Post 10021123)
Ever since I've seen it, I've been torn between thinking Watchmen was either an ambitious but flawed masterpiece or pretentious horseshit. I've been leaning more and more towards the latter.
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by RichC2
(Post 10021542)
IMO, could have been a "genre masterpiece" if they made an actual movie out of it instead of making what felt like a read along supplement to better material.
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Heh, the academy loves their underdog movies (Blindside, Precious) and Precious was required to take the requisite "Sundance movie that won everybody's heart." even if it wasn't so great.
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by RichC2
(Post 10020882)
Sam Rockwell (Actor) for Moon
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Re: Oscar snubbs
I'd go with Star Trek for Best Picture. In fact, take all of Avatar's nominations and replace them with Star Trek and that would be much better.
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To be fair, this year looks pretty pathetic. They up it to 10 films for Best Picture, yet include crap like 'The Blind Side', Avafreakinretard, Up, and District 9.
I would have taken these out for sure with the possible removal of The Hurt Locker and Precious. For me the AA's looks very amateurish this year and in no way has distinguished itself from the usually goofy GG's. If 'A Serious Man' happens to pull off the surprise win, I may recant. |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by foofighters7
(Post 10021666)
Avafreakinretard
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by troystiffler
(Post 10021675)
You are very clever.
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Sam Rockwell should have
Spoiler:
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by foofighters7
(Post 10021666)
To be fair, this year looks pretty pathetic. They up it to 10 films for Best Picture, yet include crap like 'The Blind Side', Avafreakinretard, Up, and District 9.
I would have taken these out for sure with the possible removal of The Hurt Locker and Precious. For me the AA's looks very amateurish this year and in no way has distinguished itself from the usually goofy GG's. If 'A Serious Man' happens to pull off the surprise win, I may recant. |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Snubbs and Crockett - They're cops!
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by whoopdido
(Post 10025223)
Congratulations on not liking all the commercially successful movies of the year.
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by foofighters7
(Post 10025313)
You seem to equate commercial success to quality?
Is this what your point was? I find it strange that some people seem to think of it as a badge of honor to NOT like movies that everybody else does. |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by hapgilmore
(Post 10021369)
Really, The Blind Side was a better film? Really?
Originally Posted by hapgilmore
(Post 10021369)
I didn't threadcrap, groucho did, and I started the thread so i can praise Watchmen as much as I please.
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by foofighters7
(Post 10021685)
Thank you oh so very much. You truly are a king among men.
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Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by whoopdido
(Post 10025667)
No. I was merely pointing out that the movies you slammed were all movies that the general movie going population saw and enjoyed based on the box office performance.
I find it strange that some people seem to think of it as a badge of honor to NOT like movies that everybody else does. No, I like film in general. I just think these particular films were not worthy of being listed among the 10 best films of the year, which the Academy basically says when they nominate a film for Best Picture. I simply do not care how much the film makes. I just go by my thoughts on how the film was done. Could have been made for thousands or millions or hundreds of millions. I like small films, but I also like a few big budget films too. I just do not care what the box office is on a film. If you can make a good/great film while spending a fairly small amount such as what was done with 'A Serious Man', then that is great. If it makes money, thats perfect! Happy for them. But, if you spend the GNI of Yemen to make a film and it turns out like Avatar...well then, I think someone should be shot. If you can spend that much and turn out something great, great! |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by foofighters7
(Post 10025771)
No, I like film in general. I just think these particular films were not worthy of being listed among the 10 best films of the year, which the Academy basically says when they nominate a film for Best Picture.
I simply do not care how much the film makes. I just go by my thoughts on how the film was done. Could have been made for thousands or millions or hundreds of millions. I like small films, but I also like a few big budget films too. I just do not care what the box office is on a film. If you can make a good/great film while spending a fairly small amount such as what was done with 'A Serious Man', then that is great. If it makes money, thats perfect! Happy for them. But, if you spend the GNI of Yemen to make a film and it turns out like Avatar...well then, I think someone should be shot. If you can spend that much and turn out something great, great! And by the way...off topic a bit, but Avatar really didn't cost THAT much. Some sources claimed it cost $500 million, but more accurately it cost closer to $300 million, which is similar to the third Pirates movie. Wikipedia actually lists Avatar as the 4th most expensive movie ever made behind Pirates, Spiderman 3 and Half Blood Prince. I'm sure it did approach $500 million including marketing, but most likely those other movies did too. And this is just my opinion, but I don't feel that the Academy should award Best Picture to a film that "nobody" saw. A Serious Man, An Education and The Hurt Locker made $9 million, $8 million and $12 million respectively. Granted none of those movies were widely released, but no matter how good they might be, I just don't agree with awarding Best Picture to a movie that a very small percentage of the population has even heard of, let alone actually saw. |
Re: Oscar snubbs
I was browsing the Oscar archives and found the 1974 Best Actor category. This has to be one of the worst choices in history. Look at the competition.
Art Carney -- Harry and Tonto {"Harry"} Albert Finney -- Murder on the Orient Express {"Hercule Poirot"} Dustin Hoffman -- Lenny {"Lenny Bruce"} Jack Nicholson -- Chinatown {"J. J. Gittes"} Al Pacino -- The Godfather Part II {"Michael Corleone"} |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
(Post 10026504)
I was browsing the Oscar archives and found the 1974 Best Actor category. This has to be one of the worst choices in history. Look at the competition.
Art Carney -- Harry and Tonto {"Harry"} Albert Finney -- Murder on the Orient Express {"Hercule Poirot"} Dustin Hoffman -- Lenny {"Lenny Bruce"} Jack Nicholson -- Chinatown {"J. J. Gittes"} Al Pacino -- The Godfather Part II {"Michael Corleone"} |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Yeah it was a 'lifetime achievement' award for Carney. Similar to 1981 and Henry Fonda for 'On Golden Pond' (although arguably Fonda deserved the statue).
1974: As much as I like Nicholson in Chinatown I would have awarded Hoffman the oscar for his brilliant portrayal of Lenny Bruce. Carney aside you couldn't go wrong with any of those nominees In my book. :shrug: |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
(Post 10026504)
I was browsing the Oscar archives and found the 1974 Best Actor category. This has to be one of the worst choices in history. Look at the competition.
Art Carney -- Harry and Tonto {"Harry"} Albert Finney -- Murder on the Orient Express {"Hercule Poirot"} Dustin Hoffman -- Lenny {"Lenny Bruce"} Jack Nicholson -- Chinatown {"J. J. Gittes"} Al Pacino -- The Godfather Part II {"Michael Corleone"} |
Re: Oscar snubbs
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 10026546)
My guess: the younger voters at the time split their votes between Nicholson and Pacino, both of whom were relative newcomers to movie stardom at the time (despite the fact that it was Nicholson's 15th year in the business), so the old farts in the Academy, many of whom had been in the industry since the 1920s, and who dominated the voting membership, voted for Carney, a relative veteran (who was only 56 at the time).
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Re: Oscar snubbs
If UP is getting so much praise, then so should WATCHMEN.
If UP is getting so much praise only due to the opening 10 minutes, then the same should be for Watchmen's opening credits. THE SECRET OF KELLS is the best animated film of the year, ten times better than UP. On a serious note, THE ROAD got totally dissed. |
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Up had emotional pull in its first 10 minutes and then again sporadically throughout, the first half is actually a very solid movie. Watchmen had a cool intro that had no emotional pull and the rest of the movie still suffered horribly by comparison.
I haven't seen Kells, but I would prefer Fox win over Up. However, considering only one of the Best Animated is also up for Best Picture, that tells you what will win. |
Re: Oscar snubbs
"Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we addressed the changing times for these guys by setting the opening sequence to Dylan's 'The Times They Are A-Changin'?"
**OSCAR NOMINATION** |
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