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Solid Snake 01-20-10 04:17 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Totally get what you're saying. Little phrases that would hint that he's not alone in the world of superpowers. Say a golden avenger, wingtips, that thunder god, or the mutants...stuff like that but said much better like in the comics when the characters references somebody else.

Sonic 01-20-10 04:38 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 9953883)
Dammit, Marc Webb seemed to be doing a new version of Jesus Christ Superstar, which would be awesome. Now that's going to be put on hold probably due to Spiderman.

Who wants to bet that Marc Webb is going to cast Matthew Gray Gubler as Peter Parker? He's the friend in 500 Days of Summer and he's the voice of Simon (nerd chipmunk) in Alvin and the Chipmunks. He's an unknown, he can be geeky, he can be studly, he's likable (unlike Tobey Maguire or Joseph Levitt Hewitt), and he has presence. He's 6 feet 1, but Hugh Jackman is tall too. The height thing didn't stop him from being Wolverine.
http://i48.tinypic.com/oat3bd.jpg

I just cannot picture his tall lanky ass swinging from building to building lol

Superboy 01-21-10 03:56 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Lemmy (Post 9953261)
The third film was SO far removed from the comic version of Spider-Man, as well as the other characters (Venom, anyone? Gwen? MJ? Harry? Uncle Ben's death ret-con?). THIS was the reason for the (almost universally) bad reviews!

Actually, the third movie was extremely close to the comics. I'm not saying it was a good film though.

Seriously, as a long-time Spider-fan, you wouldn't believe how dumb the comics are. And there hasn't been a good Spider-man story in a verrrrry long time. Take this quiz for example:

1. How did Spider-man get his powers?

A. He got bit by a radioactive spider, thus inheriting the proportionate strength, speed, and agility of a spider.
B. He's a being from another planet.
C. He took on the mantle of the Spider after his parents were tragically killed.
D. A magic spider gave him mystical powers from an ancient spiritual animal totem.

2. What happened to Spider-man's parents?

A. They were killed in the line of duty, working as international spies.
B. They were killed when their homeworld was destroyed.
C. They were shot in an alley by a burglar.
D. They returned later in his life, creating a heartfelt family reunion, but later turned out to be robots.

3. What's the deal with Gwen Stacy?

A. She hated Spider-man with a passion.
B. She had twins with the Green Goblin.
C. She has a clone that is alive and well, and living her own separate life.
D. All of the above.

4. Peter Parker's child...

A. Was killed by the Green Goblin.
B. Inherited his powers.
C. Only exists in an alternate universe.
D. Was unraveled from reality because of a magic wish made by Peter and MJ.

islandclaws 01-21-10 04:46 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
JGL = fail. He's a flamboyant, singing jackass and I think he's all kinds of bad for a superhero flick.

So, they'll probably cast him.

JasonF 01-21-10 05:14 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Superboy (Post 9955957)
Actually, the third movie was extremely close to the comics. I'm not saying it was a good film though.

In terms of plot points and character relationships, the third movie was the furthest from the comics of any of them.


Seriously, as a long-time Spider-fan, you wouldn't believe how dumb the comics are. And there hasn't been a good Spider-man story in a verrrrry long time.
Not to turn this into nerd talk, but I've been enjoying the Spider-Man comics since they went to the 3-times-a-month format. The stories haven't all been good, but more often than not they have been, and even the worst of them are still OK.

Oh, yeah: A and D, A and D, D, B and C and maybe A and maybe D.

fumanstan 01-21-10 05:44 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 9956056)
JGL = fail. He's a flamboyant, singing jackass and I think he's all kinds of bad for a superhero flick.

So, they'll probably cast him.

Seems like you hate the guy. He hasn't really done anything that I thought was particularly bad; all good for me since the 3rd Rock Days, although too old for the direction they're going for here it seems.

Of course, I think people were worried about Tobey too but he ended up getting pretty buff for the role and working out decently.

islandclaws 01-21-10 06:10 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 9956184)
Seems like you hate the guy. He hasn't really done anything that I thought was particularly bad; all good for me since the 3rd Rock Days, although too old for the direction they're going for here it seems.

Of course, I think people were worried about Tobey too but he ended up getting pretty buff for the role and working out decently.

Maybe I was a bit harsh, but I think he's too whimsical and pretentious to work here. We need someone with some real angst. Angst, dammit!

My Other Self 01-21-10 06:34 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 9956219)
Maybe I was a bit harsh, but I think he's too whimsical and pretentious to work here. We need someone with some real angst. Angst, dammit!

Well, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but who would you cast?

devilshalo 01-21-10 06:44 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 9956256)
Well, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but who would you cast?

Well, isn't the point of being unknown... being unknown? :p

It's not like Daniel Radcliffe had never acted in a film prior to Harry Potter, but neither he, nor Emma or Rupert were known either. And I think those films did pretty good, right? ;)

islandclaws 01-21-10 06:52 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 9956256)
Well, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but who would you cast?

Honestly? I have no idea. I'd prefer an unknown, which sounds like the direction they're going.

lamphorn 01-21-10 07:58 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
They should cast Dustin Hoffman and have an older burnt-out Spiderman who's tired of all the shit, and only reluctantly helping people out these days. And then each subsequent film in this franchise should go backwards, younger and younger, with the final (third or 4th) film being about high school and the roots of his despondency/redemption finally being revealed.

If anyone from Sony is reading, yes I'm available to produce or direct (should Webb bail). Thank you.

dsa_shea 01-21-10 08:07 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Or just cast Jack Black and make Spiderman Libre.

Patman 01-21-10 11:14 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Or cast Jon Heder and call it "Spider-Dynamite".

Giantrobo 01-22-10 02:30 AM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Or scrap the whole thing and focus on The Avengers.

joltman 01-22-10 07:09 AM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 9956792)
Or scrap the whole thing and focus on The Avengers.

You do know the Avengers movie is being made, and it's completely unrelated to the Spider-Man movies as the SM movies are by Sony and the Avengers is by Marvel themselves, right?

toddly6666 01-22-10 09:27 AM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Joseph Gordon Leavitt is a good actor, but he just seem unlikable. Peter Parker is supposed to be a likable, relatable guy. Tobey Maguire did pull it off in the first one, but he gradually turned into crazy-eyed psycho boy, trying to show the world that he's not a man-boy and that he can do tough roles. His non-Spiderman roles have progressively gotten crazier and crazier - Seabiscuit (tough), Good German (tough and crazy), Brothers (just scary crazy man-boy).

Patman 01-22-10 09:43 AM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Anyone remember Matt Long, he played young Johnny Blaze in Ghostrider? He was Jack on "Jack and Bobby", a TV show from the mid-2000s. He's also on "The Deep End", which premiered last night on ABC, anyhow, he could easily pull off Peter Parker (even has somewhat the same hairline that Steve Ditko gave Peter Parker all those years ago), but he's also 30 years old nowadays too.

http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/g...ng-picture.jpg

devilshalo 01-22-10 11:45 AM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 9957065)
Peter Parker is supposed to be a likable, relatable guy.

If he were so likeable and relatable, why was Flash Thompson always bullying puny Parker around?

JediMindTricks 01-22-10 02:17 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 9957065)
Joseph Gordon Leavitt is a good actor, but he just seem unlikable. Peter Parker is supposed to be a likable, relatable guy. Tobey Maguire did pull it off in the first one, but he gradually turned into crazy-eyed psycho boy, trying to show the world that he's not a man-boy and that he can do tough roles. His non-Spiderman roles have progressively gotten crazier and crazier - Seabiscuit (tough), Good German (tough and crazy), Brothers (just scary crazy man-boy).

lol...

toddly6666 01-22-10 02:20 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 9957329)
If he were so likeable and relatable, why was Flash Thompson always bullying puny Parker around?

Well, if Peter Parker was likable or relatable to Flash Thompson, then we would have to cast Channing Tatum as Peter Parker. Who is this Channing Tatum and why is this goon, tool boy getting so many movies?

devilshalo 01-22-10 02:34 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
If this were 10 years ago... I would have cast Elijah Wood. Yeah, he'd be a bigger name than an unknown, but he proved he can do the stunt work/fight choreography and had the look of a Peter Parker in Sin City as Kevin. But at 29, he's too old to carry a franchise.

Solid Snake 01-22-10 05:15 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
You tell that to Stallone about carrying a franchise.

devilshalo 01-22-10 05:18 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 9957987)
You tell that to Stallone about carrying a franchise.

But Rocky and Rambo have shown their age overtime and it's acceptable. Unfortunately, we never really see Superheroes age in comic books.

movieguru 01-22-10 10:43 PM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 9953985)
More quotes from the press statement:



They all seem high on the guy... maybe Marvel can somehow force the recognition of the rest of the Marvel Universe features so that Spidey isn't so bottled in. I don't think a studio has to include other franchise heroes in a film, but at least acknowledgement that they exist (ie. Iron Man, Thor, Hulk) can alleviate the fact that Spidey isn't the only hero in the world that needs to take on villains.

They did reference Doctor Strange in the first movie.

tylergfoster 01-23-10 12:35 AM

re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 9956219)
Maybe I was a bit harsh, but I think he's too whimsical and pretentious to work here. We need someone with some real angst. Angst, dammit!

I don't know if it's "angst" but I don't think he's either whimsical or pretentious in Brick, which for me is his best performance. I wouldn't call his role in Mysterious Skin either of those things either. Maybe in The Lookout he gets a bit pretentious (it's hard to play a disabled person without hitting some overly actor-y notes), but that isn't whimsical either. Hell, I wouldn't even call his character in 10 Things I Hate About You either of those things either. Comedic, obviously, but not full of whimsy.

What movie are you basing this on that isn't (500) Days of Summer?


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