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Old 02-27-10 | 08:35 PM
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Michael Bay Testing 3D for Transformers 3

Michael Bay has been vocally against the growing popularity of 3D films, at last year's theatrical exhibitors ShoWest convention making the very unpopular statement that "I think it might be a gimmick." He added that he didn't know for sure, and that he was "looking forward to [James] Cameron's picture." And Avatar came, and became the biggest grossing film of all time. That's what they call a game changer.

We've heard that Paramount is pushing to film Transformers 3 in 3D, but will Bay budge? Bay appeared on Starz' In the House last night, where he talked about many things, including the possibility of seeing big giant robots on the big screen in 3D:

"It's a process we're testing with some Transformers scenes," he said. "How successful it is with my movie in terms of a lot of real stuff coming out of the frame, real dirt, real complicated little particles coming towards the lens, because hopefully that process will work. I've seen some tests that look great on other movies. I just want to see how it looks on my footage."
I find it very interesting that Bay uses the word "process" and not "technology". Also curious is the comment that he's "seen some tests that look great on other movies". Both of these statements lead me to assume that Bay isn't planning to shoot Transformers 3 in 3D after all, but is considering post production 3D processing, a process that even James Cameron has called out as being a gimmick. One of the reasons Bay mentioned last year for not wanting to make a 3D film was that the 3D technology is too fragile for his explosive-level of filmmaking.

"The way I shoot is too aggressive for 3D cameras. It's a time consuming thing," said Bay. "Who knows? It might be a fad. I'm kinda old school. I'm old school because I like to shoot on film. I like anamorphic lenses, and that is old school."
Other bits revealed on the Starz show:

Bay plans to shoot his small movie project, Pain and Gain after Transformers 3

Bay claims that Transformers 3 "can't just rehash the old," so they're "adding a lot of new elements", "new characters," and "a lot of twists." Oh, my.
I may have to go see this in an empty auditorium or wear a raincoat for all the barfing from the audience. Then again, if Bay uses 3D as enthusiastically as he used IMAX, there'll be around 10 minutes of 3D footage spread across a 3 hour movie.

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Old 02-27-10 | 08:46 PM
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Never been a fan of his, but his defense of film and his mockery of 3D has certainly gained him a little of my respect.
Old 02-27-10 | 08:58 PM
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I love film and I'm glad he sticks to it. I just don't get the hate for 3D. If done well it's quite effective. I am against 3D conversion however. If you want your movie in 3D, shoot it in 3D. Don't half-ass it after the fact.
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Megan Fox in 3-D

Old 02-27-10 | 10:32 PM
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Megan Fox in 3-D

Which is an excellent reason to shoot this in 3D rather than add 3D effects in post.
Old 02-27-10 | 11:21 PM
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Why is it interesting that Michael Bay uses the word "process" over "technology"? Talk about over analyzing words.. sheesh.

I'm against 3D... if Avatar is the Citizen Kane of 3D then please let this gimmick die. Cause while it was interesting it didn't add anything to the movie.
Old 02-28-10 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I love film and I'm glad he sticks to it. I just don't get the hate for 3D. If done well it's quite effective. I am against 3D conversion however. If you want your movie in 3D, shoot it in 3D. Don't half-ass it after the fact.
It seems like they want to put everything in fucking 3D these days. Pretty soon we'll be taking shits in 3D and be forced to wear 3D glasses while we drive.
Old 02-28-10 | 05:33 AM
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How long till they tell Woody Allen that his next one has to be in 3D?
Old 02-28-10 | 07:29 AM
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I read online lucas is contemplating 3D for star wars. Really? Can we get them on blu Ray first for Christs sakes
Old 02-28-10 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bd...?
I read online lucas is contemplating 3D for star wars. Really? Can we get them on blu Ray first for Christs sakes
He's been talking about that before Blu-ray was even invented. I don't see it happening.
Old 02-28-10 | 08:57 AM
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Journalists' keyboards should be rigged to deliver an electrical shock any time they type a variation on the term 'game changer'.
Old 02-28-10 | 02:47 PM
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3D, not 3D, it will still be Transformers 3 directed by Michael Bay. And that's why I won't be seeing it.
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Megan Fox in 3-D



It took three posts before that comment was made? People have changed around here.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
3D, not 3D, it will still be Transformers 3 directed by Michael Bay. And that's why I won't be seeing it.
I hate the second one as much as you do but, if I recall, we both really dug the first too. I'd like to hope for something as good, if not better, than the first.
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It would have to take some fantastic reviews and WOM for me to see the third. But yes, I did like the first a lot.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
It would have to take some fantastic reviews and WOM for me to see the third. But yes, I did like the first a lot.
me too. The 2nd one shit all over my hopes.
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Casting underway for 'Transformers 3'
Malkovich, McDormand set for Paramount film
By PAMELA MCCLINTOCK

The elements are falling into place for "Transformers 3," with Frances McDormand and John Malkovich signing on to the project, which begins pre-shoots next month.

Also onboard for the pic in Paramount's tentpole franchise is "The Hangover's" Ken Jeong.
Director Michael Bay announced the latest developments on the pic on his blog.

"Transformers 3" is set for release July 1, 2011. It is not known whether the third installment will be shot in 3D. The first two were shot in 2D.

"Transformers" is Paramount's most valuable franchise, particularly since the studio is the sole financier. The first "Transformers" grossed $709.7 million worldwide, followed by $836.4 million for last year's "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen."

Initially, Bay had wanted to take a longer break before lensing the three-quel, but ultimately decided to meet the studio's summer 2011 release date.

Bay did disclose that the newest Autobot to join the franchise is the Ferrari 458 Italia. The helmer, a Ferrari collector, has been working with the automaker in recent weeks on relief efforts for Haiti.

Ehren Kruger penned the script for "Transformers 3." Storyline is being kept under tight wraps. Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox return for the lead roles.

Par took sole custody of "Transformers" as part of its divorce from DreamWorks. Steven Spielberg remains exec producer.
Old 03-23-10 | 11:45 AM
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I'm down with McDormand and Malkovich, but I hope they keep a leash on Jeong. He goes a little too overboard for me sometimes.
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I love that every deal Bay makes to direct a film gets him a free Ferrari.
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Originally Posted by lamphorn
Never been a fan of his, but his defense of film and his mockery of 3D has certainly gained him a little of my respect.
On the other hand, he mocks it until he finds out he can make money off of it and then will express his love for it. flip flop flip flop
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Great interview with Michael Bay discussing 3-D over at Deadline.com.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/03/mich...e-jury-is-out/

“I shoot complicated stuff, I put real elements into action scenes and honestly, I am not sold right now on the conversion process,” says Michael Bay. Paramount and DreamWorks are pressuring him to allow Transformers 3 to be dimensional-ized after the fact, because there simply isn’t enough time to shoot with 3D camera and post the film between now and its July 1, 2011 release date. Cameron took his time on Avatar, and will do the same with the elaborate Fantastic Voyage remake he’s producing for Fox. His longtime 3D documentary collaborator, Andrew Wight, did the same when he produced the underwater thriller Sanctum. Conversions, on the other hand, are rush jobs done right before release dates.

Bay investigated shooting at least some Transformers 3 footage with 3D cameras, but found them too heavy and cumbersome for the fast pace action scenes he shoots. Bay feels the process of sending out 2D film for 3D conversion is more problematic and pricey than studios are admitting. Too often, companies selling 3D retrofitting services arrive with a sharp demo reel, but leave with a deer-in-the-headlights look when Bay gives them his own footage to convert, on a tight deadline.

“I am trying to be sold, and some companies are still working on the shots I gave them,” Bay said. “Right now, it looks like fake 3D, with layers that are very apparent. You go to the screening room, you are hoping to be thrilled, and you’re thinking, huh, this kind of sucks. People can say whatever they want about my movies, but they are technically precise, and if this isn’t going to be excellent, I don’t want to do it. And it is my choice.”

Bay uses the same top-shelf crews and visual effects teams on all his films, and he bolstered the quality of his Transformers 3 cast with Frances McDormand and John Malkovich. He objects to the idea of handing over his finished film to an unproven process--and people who haven't had time to develop a level of trust with him--with a release date bearing down on him.

Said Bay: “I’m used to having the A-team working on my films, and I’m going to hand it over to the D-team, have it shipped to India and hope for the best? This conversion process is always going to be inferior to shooting in real 3D. Studios might be willing to sacrifice the look and use the gimmick to make $3 more a ticket, but I’m not. Avatar took four years. You can’t just shit out a 3D movie. I’m saying, the jury is still out.”

Bay also disputes the $100,000 per minute conversation cost estimate. Try between $120,000 to $150,000 per minute, he said, with a top-shelf conversion of Transformers 3 costing $30 million.
Old 03-23-10 | 05:43 PM
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Seems like he really hates the 3D. I'm not a fan of it really, liked it's use on Avatar was pretty good. Sometimes Bay says things I respect in terms of entertainment but..sometimes he's just sooo off. Here he's like an inbetween.
Old 03-23-10 | 06:09 PM
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Despite thinking the Transformers films are some of the worst pieces of shit I've seen theatrically, Bay gets a lot of respect from me with his comments on the whole 3D debacle going on.
Old 03-23-10 | 06:10 PM
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Never thought I'd say this, but I 100% agree with everything Bay said about 3D, and I love the way he put it.
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Yeah...I feel weird agreeing with him. It's.....weird.


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