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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by BJacks
(Post 9755185)
This case is a twisting, conflicting confluence of liberal agendas that must make lefties heads explode. On one hand, you have the ultimate feminist ideal, that a woman's body is her own and she should never be forcibly subservient to a man. But on the other hand, the aggressor is an brilliant European auteur and the incident occurred in the swinging, liberal, anything goes 70s. What to do??
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
My opinion on this case has nothing to do with being a liberal or not. That's just the usual BS from Americans who want to turn every issue into a liberal vs conservative argument. So let me recap my position:
1. Polanski commited a crime. He should have paid for it at the time. 2. The system fucked up, the judge was a goofball, he fled. 3. During 30+ years he didn't get in trouble with the law, the victim has forgiven him and doesn't want to have anything to do with this case anymore, and the justice system/law enforcement showed no particular inclination to catch him. 4. And now he's arrested... Even given the unlikely scenario that the extradition process is successful, and considering everything that has transpired previously, he would most likely not spend a single day in jail. Hence, gigantic waste of resources, time, and money. |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by dhmac
(Post 9755018)
BTW, what's the legal difference between dropping charges "with prejudice" and dropping charges "without prejudice"?
Without prejudice means the opposite. |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
For those interesting in reading it, here is a PDF of the motion filed by the defense to dismiss the case.
(It's over 200 pages long, so can take some time to read) |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by eXcentris
(Post 9754890)
Way to miss the point... And where was all this outrage in the past 30 years?
Why aren't people outraged at the justice system for fucking up? Or at law enforcement for doing practically nothing all this time? Again, I find all this outrage ridiculous and somewhat misplaced. And considering the most lilely outcome, it is a waste of time, money and resources. My anger and outrage is mainly directed at idiots (mainly celebrities) who are protesting his arrest and claiming that he was treated poorly as well as completely idiotic statements like "it wasn't rape rape" and the general support for him just because he is a celebrity. His artwork is totally separate from his actions. It should and will be judged according to its own merits. If someone chooses to boycott his work based on their own judgment that is their choice. However, just because he is a celebrity doesn't mean everyone should rally to his "cause". |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by tanman
(Post 9755369)
My anger and outrage is mainly directed at idiots (mainly celebrities) who are protesting his arrest and claiming that he was treated poorly as well as completely idiotic statements like "it wasn't rape rape" and the general support for him just because he is a celebrity.
(Which begs the question: why do people who want to throw him in prison not care at all what the people actually involved with the case think?) |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by dhmac
(Post 9755410)
Why do you think they are idiots? Maybe they just know the details of the case and think Polanski did not get fair treatment by our justice system. At least that's what the main people directly involved with the case (the prosecution attorney, the original D.A., the defense attorney, the defendant, and the victim) all think.
(Which begs the question: why do people who want to throw him in prison not care at all what the people actually involved with the case think?) |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
But this wasn't rape-rape!
Let him free! |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by dhmac
(Post 9755410)
(Which begs the question: why do people who want to throw him in prison not care at all what the people actually involved with the case think?) |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
(Post 9755436)
Nope, I gotta agree with the initial assessment too. Idiots. But these are the same morons who praise the likes of Chavez and Castro and believe in man caused global warming
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by MoviePage
(Post 9755563)
I know! It's exactly the same thing! Why, just today I heard Al Gore on TV talking about how much he loves rape.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by superdeluxe
(Post 9755550)
But this wasn't rape-rape!
Let him free! |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
(Post 9755436)
Nope, I gotta agree with the initial assessment too. Idiots. But these are the same morons who praise the likes of Chavez and Castro and believe in man caused global warming
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by cungar
(Post 9755682)
Geez, you sound like my brother in law. The guy could make a political issue out of everything from football to oatmeal. He probably talks about politics while he's banging his wife.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Here's the transcripts to Larry King's 2003 interview with Samantha Geimer and her attorney Lawrence Silver.
Although there's a lot of interesting info in it (as well as plenty of instances of Larry King's typical cluelessness, like saying the murder of Sharon Tate happened only a few months before the rape -ohbfrank-), but one thing the attorney says is that the statute of limitations has expired on all the other charges that were dropped. (Whether he's right or not, I don't know. I guess that maybe depends on when/if Polanski was charged with being a fugitive, which was not done immediately after he fled.): SILVER: [Polanski] expressed remorse at hearing in which he pleaded guilty to the one count of unlawful sexual intercourse. And statute of limitations on anything else is long gone. |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
(Post 9755689)
No, I was merely making the point that celebrities tend to spout off idiotic opinions about things that are beyond their little minds.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
(Post 9755436)
But these are the same morons who praise the likes of Chavez and Castro and believe in man caused global warming
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by MoviePage
(Post 9755563)
Why, just today I heard Al Gore on TV talking about how much he loves rape.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by cungar
(Post 9755723)
I'd like to see a list of celebrities that meet your criterion of supporting Polanski, Chavez and Castro. My guess is you'd have a pretty small list.
I'm not saying they all share in the same silly opinions, just that they spout off about stupid things, like believing in man made global warming, Chavez, or Castro. I don't really care to make a list but I’m sure most of the celebrity douche bags defending ass rape are also believers in global warming. I'd also be willing to lay some money down that the Chavez lovers (Penn, Sarandon, Stone, Robbins, etc) are also firmly in the Polanski camp. |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by NoirFan
(Post 9755814)
wmlopez, you need to contact an admin about multiple accounts.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
(Post 9755863)
Why, it takes an internet loon to dislike child rape, Chavez, Castro, and fear mongering? :hscratch:
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by NoirFan
(Post 9755869)
No, but hijacking threads with right-wing political rants is usually wmlopez' department.
It is interesting, though, that it seems to be a political issue now. |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
(Post 9755877)
I wasn't making a right wing political rant; I was merely noticing that the left seems to be defending him more than the right. Yes, I was being silly about it and I will cut the political shit.
It is interesting, though, that it seems to be a political issue now. |
Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by mhg83
(Post 9755917)
Politics should never have a place in this debate. It's fucking child rape. I thought both parties could come together and agree on a case like this.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested
Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
(Post 9755879)
I would like to see this list as well.
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