Rank the Bourne films
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Rank the Bourne films
all are good, but best to worst I would rank them:
1. Bourne Ultimatum
2. Bourne Supremacy
3. Bourne Identity
Ultimatum is by far the best imo.
1. Bourne Ultimatum
2. Bourne Supremacy
3. Bourne Identity
Ultimatum is by far the best imo.
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They go from best to worst in release order. The last one was just silly.
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For me it's:
1. Supremacy
2. Ultimatum
3. Identity
1. Supremacy
2. Ultimatum
3. Identity
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Supremacy
Identity (although this one is extremely close to Supremacy)
Ultimatum. (easily the weakest. Pretty much a weaker retread of the 2nd film)
Identity (although this one is extremely close to Supremacy)
Ultimatum. (easily the weakest. Pretty much a weaker retread of the 2nd film)
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Supremacy
Identity (although this one is extremely close to Supremacy)
Ultimatum. (easily the weakest. Pretty much a weaker retread of the 2nd film)
Identity (although this one is extremely close to Supremacy)
Ultimatum. (easily the weakest. Pretty much a weaker retread of the 2nd film)
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1.) Bourne in East LA
2.) Bourne on the Fourth of July
3.) A Star is Bourne
Close runner-up for the #3 spot: Bourne Into Brothels.
2.) Bourne on the Fourth of July
3.) A Star is Bourne
Close runner-up for the #3 spot: Bourne Into Brothels.
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I just saw these back to back to back, definitely a better movie watching experience. Mine:
1. Ultimatum
2. Supremacy
3. Identity
1. Ultimatum
2. Supremacy
3. Identity
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Agreed. I didn't even like the last one much. The second one was okay, but still a major step down from the first one. I only even liked the first one as a *** or *** 1/2 fun summer film. This trilogy as a whole does nothing at all for me.
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I agree with the reverse order of Ultimatum, Supremacy and Identity, however Identity had the better plot and set up the next two films to be action heavy.
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The 1st 2 are essentially the same movie. The 3rd one was a 2 hour chase sequence. Still enjoyed them though. I'd say Identity, ultimatum,supremacy.
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The "Bourne without Greengrass" thread has made me interested in revisiting the series. It amazes me to see how many people prefer Ultimatum over Supremacy. I think most of us can agree that Identity is the least exciting of three, partially due to the lower stakes story (Bourne doesn't have the entire CIA on his ass), and partially due to Liman not being as hyperkinetic as Greengrass.
Supremacy amps everything up. Greengrass' direction is a complete 180 from Liman's, and the story encompasses far more than Treadstone. Using Bourne as misdirection for another plot is actually a great way to bring Bourne out of hiding without making it a generic "We're still looking for Bourne!" plot. And the killing of some major characters was a bold move that makes the film stand out in the series. While Greengrass was accused of abusing the shaky cam technique, most of Supremacy is not difficult on the eyes.
Ultimatum, on the other hand, feels bloated, pointless, and an excuse to toy around with the mechanics of the story in ways that are sometimes clever, and other times too clever. Given that most of the key Treadstone players are dead by the time of Ultimatum, the screenwriters now have to introduce new characters, none of whom are as interesting as Brian Cox or Chris Cooper. Nikki's sudden appearance is far too convenient, and her warmth for Bourne feels forced and awkward. And with Ultimatum, Greengrass jumps off the shaky cam deep end, making fights so blurry and uneven that you often can't tell what the hell is going on. The movie isn't without its good scenes, such as the Waterloo Station scene, and the sequence where Bourne tricks the CIA in their own backyard. But in exchange we also get several action setpieces that are basically remakes of similar scenes from Supremacy. The resolution with Albert Finney feels phony, especially since is character was never mentioned or seen prior to this film. Even if he had, the revelations are weak and feel like an afterthought.
Apparently I'm actually in the minority in holding this opinion, which surprises me. What does everyone see in Ultimatum that I am missing?
Supremacy amps everything up. Greengrass' direction is a complete 180 from Liman's, and the story encompasses far more than Treadstone. Using Bourne as misdirection for another plot is actually a great way to bring Bourne out of hiding without making it a generic "We're still looking for Bourne!" plot. And the killing of some major characters was a bold move that makes the film stand out in the series. While Greengrass was accused of abusing the shaky cam technique, most of Supremacy is not difficult on the eyes.
Ultimatum, on the other hand, feels bloated, pointless, and an excuse to toy around with the mechanics of the story in ways that are sometimes clever, and other times too clever. Given that most of the key Treadstone players are dead by the time of Ultimatum, the screenwriters now have to introduce new characters, none of whom are as interesting as Brian Cox or Chris Cooper. Nikki's sudden appearance is far too convenient, and her warmth for Bourne feels forced and awkward. And with Ultimatum, Greengrass jumps off the shaky cam deep end, making fights so blurry and uneven that you often can't tell what the hell is going on. The movie isn't without its good scenes, such as the Waterloo Station scene, and the sequence where Bourne tricks the CIA in their own backyard. But in exchange we also get several action setpieces that are basically remakes of similar scenes from Supremacy. The resolution with Albert Finney feels phony, especially since is character was never mentioned or seen prior to this film. Even if he had, the revelations are weak and feel like an afterthought.
Apparently I'm actually in the minority in holding this opinion, which surprises me. What does everyone see in Ultimatum that I am missing?




