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#52
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At what point is a 'reboot' just a hip term for lazy writing? And when do you have to abandon the name Star Trek and really do something original? The project came about because Paramount had a BIG brand name on their hands which has been pretty much ruined by the last films and the last series.
The weakest aspect of the movie was the story. A total been-there-done-that. But it's a weak story very well done. ;-)
If they bring on Michael Bay to direct the next one though I'm finished.
3.5/5.
The weakest aspect of the movie was the story. A total been-there-done-that. But it's a weak story very well done. ;-)
If they bring on Michael Bay to direct the next one though I'm finished.
3.5/5.
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Re: Star Trek (J.J. Abrams, 2009) — The Reviews Thread
As a long time Trek fan I was not impressed with it. There are so many flaws that its difficult to know where to start and I really don't have time right now so I wil just say,
Join Star Fleet the only service in history were you can go from cadet to most powerful ship in the fleet Captain in 2.3 hours.
And one more thing. What is it with recent movies that try to stuff so much action into so little relative time? This whole movie from the time Kirk stepped on the ship to go to Vulcan until the end, all of the events occurred within "movie time" hours. I thought it would take time to get to Vulcan but evidently you could eat breakfast in San Fransico and have lunch on Vulcan. Got to love the transwarp 35 speed drives in this "rebooted" universe.
Join Star Fleet the only service in history were you can go from cadet to most powerful ship in the fleet Captain in 2.3 hours.
And one more thing. What is it with recent movies that try to stuff so much action into so little relative time? This whole movie from the time Kirk stepped on the ship to go to Vulcan until the end, all of the events occurred within "movie time" hours. I thought it would take time to get to Vulcan but evidently you could eat breakfast in San Fransico and have lunch on Vulcan. Got to love the transwarp 35 speed drives in this "rebooted" universe.
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I'm not sure what all you guys are complaining about with the timeline. The entire Trek history you know and love is not gone or wiped out by this movie. Apparently the whole scene where they bashed it over our heads that this was an alternate timeline didn't smash into you guys hard enough.
Everything we've known and seen in previous Treks, from Enterprise to Voyager, still happens. Spock Prime is proof of this. Everything that happened still happens. This is an alternate timeline.
And as far as the "what's up with this amazing new technology that they didn't have" blah blah blah... I would imagine if a hugeass Romulan ship shows up and utterly annihilates a Starfleet vessel, you better believe that they're going to step up their game tenfold with research and development.
Everything we've known and seen in previous Treks, from Enterprise to Voyager, still happens. Spock Prime is proof of this. Everything that happened still happens. This is an alternate timeline.
And as far as the "what's up with this amazing new technology that they didn't have" blah blah blah... I would imagine if a hugeass Romulan ship shows up and utterly annihilates a Starfleet vessel, you better believe that they're going to step up their game tenfold with research and development.
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Re: Star Trek (J.J. Abrams, 2009) — The Reviews Thread
With that being said, I really enjoyed the new movie as a whole. I understand the need to reboot the franchise, and I'm really not offended by it. I believe it was Ronald D. Moore (or someone else heavily involved in DS9) that said the cannon was really hindering the story process. Every time they had an idea, they'd have to go back and do so much research to make sure it didn't violate (in a major way) what happened previously. I think it just gets to a point where that becomes too much of a burden, and it's necessary to start over in a sense. I feel that's what Abrams and company have done here.
I did have some minor issues with the story. The whole
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I guess I could see where die-hard Trekkies are upset with the new movie, but I certainly don't share that opinion. I think it all needs to be taken in stride. Yes, this isn't old-school Trek, but I think it's just as good. If it does nothing else, it stays truer to TOS than Voyager and Enterprise ever did. For me, it was a great movie, and I'm looking forward to more in the series.
On another note, I read Ebert's review of the movie, and I really think he just doesn't get it. I won't respond to his review on every point, but there was one that just really irked me. He states (I put it in spoilers just in case):
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Come on! How many times (in every Trek series and almost every movie) has the transporter been unusable? I honestly think they've used every reason in every book. Yet Ebert feels it necessary to make this a major complaint? It's the transporter. Part of the appeal of the transporter is that, in dangerous situations, it only works when enough tension has been built into the scene. It happens so frequently, I really think it's just part of the design specifications. That part of his review alone shows me that he is a little out-of-touch with the Trek universe and the way things work in it.
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Are you trying to stir up shit? I mean seriously. Stop with the troll like posts and give some constructive criticism about the film. And not smart ass comments about people's responses.
And oh btw, almost all the professional critics are very easy to please too, apparently.
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"I'm not sure what all you guys are complaining about with the timeline. The entire Trek history you know and love is not gone or wiped out by this movie."
The problem people have with it, is gee I don't know maybe shit like spock running around making out with people multiple times during the fucking movie. Shit like that is why people don't like alt timeline bullshit. Because that's just what it is, or at least what it can be, it's crap.
The problem people have with it, is gee I don't know maybe shit like spock running around making out with people multiple times during the fucking movie. Shit like that is why people don't like alt timeline bullshit. Because that's just what it is, or at least what it can be, it's crap.
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LOL at people who can't accept the "reboot" timeline change, yet were the same people who were most likely huge fans of episodes like "Mirror, Mirror", and "Yesterdays Enterprise".
To the original Trek purists, your precious beloved timeline is stored safely away... nothing will EVER change that. It's a different universe... and it is preserved, now and forever in a hermetically sealed vault. Fine. Good. You should feel comfort knowing that.
This, this is an alternate timeline, where shit can get cuh-razy. Whatever they do in this "reboot", or subsequent sequels will never take away any of the storylines and characters you loved from the original timeline. Deal with it nerds.
To the original Trek purists, your precious beloved timeline is stored safely away... nothing will EVER change that. It's a different universe... and it is preserved, now and forever in a hermetically sealed vault. Fine. Good. You should feel comfort knowing that.
This, this is an alternate timeline, where shit can get cuh-razy. Whatever they do in this "reboot", or subsequent sequels will never take away any of the storylines and characters you loved from the original timeline. Deal with it nerds.
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He joined Star Fleet, commented on that he'll be captain in 3 years and he does just that. Yes, the cadet advancement is correct but he still becomes captain in 3 years though.
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The problem people have with it, is gee I don't know maybe shit like spock running around making out with people multiple times during the fucking movie. Shit like that is why people don't like alt timeline bullshit. Because that's just what it is, or at least what it can be, it's crap.
WAH! Spock makes out with women! He's supposed to be logical! WAH!
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Anyone find it odd as to what was the point of having Winona Ryder in the flick? Her part could've been w/ anybody else and still be the same. Anybody?
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Re: Star Trek (J.J. Abrams, 2009) — The Reviews Thread
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Count me in as another "easily pleased" bumpkin! Perfect summer film. Impressed with the humor too.
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"I'm not sure what all you guys are complaining about with the timeline. The entire Trek history you know and love is not gone or wiped out by this movie."
The problem people have with it, is gee I don't know maybe shit like spock running around making out with people multiple times during the fucking movie. Shit like that is why people don't like alt timeline bullshit. Because that's just what it is, or at least what it can be, it's crap.
The problem people have with it, is gee I don't know maybe shit like spock running around making out with people multiple times during the fucking movie. Shit like that is why people don't like alt timeline bullshit. Because that's just what it is, or at least what it can be, it's crap.
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Re: Star Trek (J.J. Abrams, 2009) — The Reviews Thread
It was in response to Pike's comment that he'd be out of the Academy in 4 years, and a captain in 8.
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Re: Star Trek (J.J. Abrams, 2009) — The Reviews Thread
I checked out your myspace link, and it doesn't list any of the movies or TV shows as among your favorites, so you really shouldn't be criticizing those of us that have been watching the series for a long time by calling us "nerds."
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Uhura is hot, and Spock has male parts. It seems logical to me.
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I guess this movie proves that there really are two kinds of Star Trek fans. There are those that enjoy the spirit of exploration, of bettering yourself, humanity, and the galaxy, of enjoying the characters and their relationships, and reveling in the action.
Then you have the fans that treat the franchise like obsessive baseball fans, pouring over stats.
If you can't see that one reason why Star Trek collapsed in on itself, it was a slavish devotion to maintaining the purity of every letter of canon. The storytelling that we got in Voyager, Enterprise, and the TNG movies was partly so godawful because of this.