Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

No, both are my opinions of films that I made after seeing them. You are reading into things that aren't there.

I had no expectations of either film going into them. I had never seen anything Star Trek before seeing the film, thus, no expectations & I posted before D9 even came out, that I had been staying away from knowing anything about the movie, I had only seen the trailer once. Again, I've posted this 3 times now, D9 is an in your face message film, wrapped in a Sci-fi genre. It purposely tries to ground itself in reality, thus, it exposes it's large plot holes by doing so. Second, I do not care for the message of the film, you like it, great more power to you, for me, a humans are evil movie with gaping inconstancies does not equal best movie of the year or a masterpiece. Every major human character in the film is portrayed as evil, or a self-centered shmuck, so I didn't care what happened to any of them. It's just my opinion, everyone else here loves it.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

The talking heads that pop up throughout the movie aren't evil or good. Just commentators.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Yeah I thought of that and agree about what fell from the mothership. I guess I shied away from your idea because if true the smart aliens are just as bad as the humans. It would basically mean they kept their own people locked up under terrible conditions by choice and then abandoned them. But that could very well be what happened.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

In deleted scenes we are going to find out that they are all a part of a black market puppy smuggling ring that steal dogs from blind people only to train them to eat babies.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

It's hard to judge the entire scenario when we don't know what drove them to Earth in the first place (it's clear from the dialogue in the film that their own world is still inhabitable), and everything we saw about their arrival was from the human perspective. Also, while this isn't really suggested in the movie, we don't know what the prawn life cycle is like, so it's possible that Christopher is not one of the prawns who arrived on the initial mothership, or if he did, he could have been a child.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

What happened to the clip from the trailers where somebody is interrogating the alien about weapons, and it states that it just wants to go home?

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Good question. I was waiting for that part.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

My favourite was one that had a heart symbol like I [HEART] NY or I [HEART] Huckabees. I think it read I [HEART] Aliens. :lol:


And that's why I don't watch trailers.

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Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

A lot of films have scenes filmed solely for trailers and teasers that were never meant to be part of the main film - this was one of them. Their intentions with the trailer become apparent when you look at the very first trailer and there's no subtitles for the alien, and then the second trailer add the subtitles of "we just want to go home", completely changing the dynamics of the scene.Weird, as I never saw this as any sort of "message movie", especially one that's "in your face" - sure, there's some parallels to be made to Apartheid, but that's just stems naturally from the director's life - secondly, I saw none of the plot holes that you speak of - each one you brought up has already been addressed, and nit-picking aside, shows that you weren't even paying attention. And where you saw "evil" with each human, I just saw motivation, misplaced or otherwise, which made sense, maybe not realistic, but believable enough to keep me engaged in the film.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

They definitely acknowledge that they know who he is.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

But not until later on in the film when it's the gang leader who has the magazine article that he was found having "intercourse" with an alien. In that first initial scene, they're just confused on why he's even there.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Thanks Matthew. I don't really do well arguing facts because it astonishes me that something as clear as that can be misconstrued and listed under fictitious "plot holes".

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Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

I didn't say it was a plot hole. I said it was a gripe. Its dumb that they don't try to at least take him into custody for some ransom.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Right. Because you believe that South Africa has some sort of 'every Caucasian seen, is kidnapped' way of life? Which exact part of the unequivocal fact that the butcher, and others hanging around the butcher's kiosk didn't have the slightest clue of who he was. Just some crazy white guy trying to buy some steak.

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Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Prior to the butcher scene, we have the lady in the suit doing the interviews say that his photo is everywhere and you couldn't go anywhere without seeing it. Even if the butcher's didn't know who he was (which is stupid considering the scene with the lady), the guys after that knew who he was. The fact that they don't try to aprehend the most wanted man on earth is dumb. Do you see what I'm getting at? Do you understand why I think the most wanted man on earth would have value?

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Well, there you have it, please do not accuse me of "not paying attention". Some parallels made to Apartheid? It's literally the allegory the film is based on & is throughout the entire movie. You never saw this as a "message movie"? What were you watching then? Or are you just in love with this movie b/c the special effects were neat & they blew stuff up really well. Peter Jackson fell in love with the script b/c of the message of the movie & that it tried to be more than just your average sci-fi. Those were his words. The creators have talked about the message the film carries. Yet you, who refused to admit there is any fault in this supposed masterpiece, just have said in you own words, that this is no kind of message movie, so you missed the entire point of the film you love so much.


Of coarse you didn't see the plot holes, you didn't even see any message in the film. And none of my points have been proven wrong, I just don't feel like arguing with every single reply. Clearly you think this is a flawless film, & you can't fathom that someone doesn't see it the way you do. And once again, I liked the movie, it's just not the flawless masterpiece that people are making it out to be.

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Again, you are just seeing what you want to see. So when the father beyond inhumanely, tells the doctors to dissect every single last part of Mikus, doing so literally in front of Mikus why he is still alive, screaming for his life listening to this entire conversation take place, & then later on the same father LIES TO HIS own daughter about what really happened to Mikus, something that, I don't know, call me weird, I interpreted as the essence of pure, unfathomable evil, but to you this guy was just a highly motivated go-getter.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

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Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Actually, it makes sense that they would not try to kidnap him. You wouldn't piss off the people who basically allow you to exist within District 9. I think it was established early on that the MNU basically looks the other way and I'm sure that the humans exploiting the prawns would like to keep it that way.

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So, you agree that it's about apartheid, which was a pretty terrible example of human behavior, yet you find it unrealistic that people would act inhumanely towards each other in the film? Were you hoping for an apartheid movie that involved puppy dogs and rainbows?

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Honor amongst thieves. Bad guys don't tend to have much respect for the cops, and they certainly don't call them very often.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Sessa17's evaluation that the theme of the movie is that all people are evil and suck is perfectly valid, and the same one I interpreted it to have. Difference between us is that I accept it as a valid theme and he does not. Not sure why.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

Where did I say it was unrealistic that people would act inhumanely toward each other? I never mentioned that once.

The events in Africa were an atrocity beyond comprehension, yet it was people, good people & humanity that lead ultimately to multi-racial democratic elecitions & apartheid reform.

I want to say this again, b/c you guys don't seem to get this. It is only a matter of taste, this is my opinion, not everyone has to see things they way you do. Me, myself, I, do not particularly care for a film, that shows nothing but evil in humans, on every level of the film that is significant, & in every major human character throughout the film. Government is evil in the movie, military are despicable, big business is evil, the average man is portrayed as a schmuck.

And for me, myself, only me, when a movie is attempting to be smart, & different, I actually want something smart & different, not the same evils of corporatism tripe, that has been to death, particularly in this genre. Apparently, for most here, I guess D9 is the first time they have seen this before, they must not have seen, Moon recently, or little movies like Wall-E, or Aliens, or Blade Runner where this theme has been used again & again. And this isn't about whether or not I agree with these heavy handed messages, it's about that it's been done already, I've seen it, I don't need yet another sci-fi hung up on these same trappings. But hey, that's just me, if those cliches weren't in there, then I would be right there with you guys, going nuts over this film.

Re: District 9 (Blomkamp, 2009) — Ex-Halo director fleshes out "Alive in Joburg"
 

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