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Old 04-10-09 | 11:00 AM
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Re: Why Does Hollywood Hate Christianity So Much?

I could be completely wrong about this, but I think nodeerforamonth was being facetious, just giving the OP the response he wanted to hear.
Old 04-10-09 | 12:09 PM
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Throwing a little gas on this bonfire...

I'd bet 1/4 of Hollywood is gay, and the other 3/4 is their friends/sympatico liberals. Hollywood has a huge gay community, more behind the scenes than in front. Who is the major persecutor of the gay community? Who constantly attacks them? Preachers. What is the justification to deny them basic rights heterosexuals enjoy? Biblical dogma. The fact is, gay discrimination is entirely religion-driven in this country.

So the gay community and their friends simply return the hate. They hate Christians because they feel, rightfully so, that Christians hate them. Not all, of course. Rick Warren has said enough with the discrimination, there needs to be outreach, but he's been attacked on both sides for it. Gays don't trust him, other Christians oppose him for doing it.

It's a shame and stupid but that's simply my POV on it.
Old 04-10-09 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
1. B&W
2. Subtitled
3. They don't speak "American"

I get the feeling he'd erupt with self-righteous indignation before Frame 1.
Originally Posted by wendersfan
Matters of taste aside, Bresson is about as far from "Hollywood" as one could imagine. He made very personal films that were never intended to be commercial and he deliberately avoided professional actors. While most of his films are, IMO, masterpieces, he is in no way within the scope of this thread.
Yes, because all Christians are ignorant, NASCAR-lovin', "American" speaking rednecks? I expected more of you wendersfan.
Old 04-10-09 | 12:41 PM
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Yes, because all Christians are ignorant, NASCAR-lovin', "American" speaking rednecks? I expected more of you wendersfan.
? The movie mentioned has nothing to do with Hollywood's Hate of Christianity and is not an example of Christinaity in the Hollywood system. Wendersfan is correct, it doesn't belong in this thread.
Old 04-10-09 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bus
Atomic's still doing Cody's new film, no?
Searchlight will end up being the ultimate distributor; similar to Miss March and Post Grad (both projects originally set-up to be Atomic releases).

It looks that now Fox Faith is just a branding label for DVDs.
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Yes, because all Christians are ignorant, NASCAR-lovin', "American" speaking rednecks? I expected more of you wendersfan.
But there are black, Mexican and Puerto Rican christians.
What do you call them?
Old 04-10-09 | 01:10 PM
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Name me one critic that told parents not to let kids see Passion of the Christ but endorsed kids seeing a Saw movie. Moreover, regardless of its ultimate message, The Passion of the Christ WAS (and is) too violent for kids to see.
I'm from Chicago so it wasn't here.
I was watching THE FACTOR that year and they were showing print reviews and they pointed out that these same movie reviewers did not ever give the same kind of review about violent scenes in Quintin Tarintino movies.
Those kind of violent scenes were discribed as art.
Old 04-10-09 | 01:30 PM
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The reason critics were telling people not to take their kids to Passion while not mentioning kids at all for Saw/Tarantino/etc. is because many Churches around the country made field trips for the entire congregation to see it, and many parents wanted to take their kids to show them about their faith. So clearly people were interested in taking their kids, thus it became prudent to warn them that the movie would be too intense for children.

With Saw and Tarantino and so on, there is no mass movement to take kids to see it. It's expected that these films are too violent for kids, so it would be redundant to mention not to take your kids.

And, FWIW, I think Passion is as much art as Kill Bill or Pulp Fiction.

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Old 04-10-09 | 01:32 PM
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But there are black, Mexican and Puerto Rican christians.
What do you call them?
Able to understand sarcasm?
Old 04-10-09 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
I'm from Chicago so it wasn't here.
I was watching THE FACTOR that year and they were showing print reviews and they pointed out that these same movie reviewers did not ever give the same kind of review about violent scenes in Quintin Tarintino movies.
Those kind of violent scenes were discribed as art.
The difference is The Bible has sort of a wholesome image. A lot of people might think "A movie about Jesus, this would be good for little Jimmy to see."

Chances are most people weren't thinking "Kill Bill, the new movie from the guy whose films include anal rape and ears getting cut off, I'll take little Jimmy to that."
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30146878

Little more controversy?
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Discussion of that article is probably better suited to the Politics forum, I would say.
Old 04-10-09 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I am willing to bet cool cash that you never even watched Religulous. Maher actually spent most of his time expressing his hatred for the things man kind added to the Bible and Christianity over the past 2000 years. Sure, he's an atheist, but that doesn't mean he hates Christians. He hated the man made crap that clogged up the church. Did him leaving the church solve anything? Not quite, but just because his reaction to it all may not be the most proactive doesn't mean he doesn't make some VERY valid points in his movie.

It's not as bashing to Christianity as you may think. I saw it and I was by far more offended by the Christians in the movie who would see him and just throw him out of their church and not listen to a word he said. Yeah, that's Christ like.
We must have not seen the same movie. The Religulous that I saw was Maher's usual agenda to make Christians look ridiculous in full bloom. He goes out and finds radicals such as guys who worship inside a truck trailer, and one dude claiming to be Jesus. He also poked fun at the Holy Land tour while admitting that the Jesus actually had a good argument for the Trinity. The problem is this "documentary" is too biased and not objective.
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Throwing a little gas on this bonfire...

I'd bet 1/4 of Hollywood is gay, and the other 3/4 is their friends/sympatico liberals. Hollywood has a huge gay community, more behind the scenes than in front. Who is the major persecutor of the gay community? Who constantly attacks them? Preachers. What is the justification to deny them basic rights heterosexuals enjoy? Biblical dogma. The fact is, gay discrimination is entirely religion-driven in this country.

So the gay community and their friends simply return the hate. They hate Christians because they feel, rightfully so, that Christians hate them. Not all, of course. Rick Warren has said enough with the discrimination, there needs to be outreach, but he's been attacked on both sides for it. Gays don't trust him, other Christians oppose him for doing it.

It's a shame and stupid but that's simply my POV on it.
Probably explains why Milk and Brokeback Mountain won high Oscar praise.
Old 04-10-09 | 03:10 PM
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I'd say Jesus Camp is probably the scariest movie I've seen in a while. Thing is, there's really no editorializing IMO - they just show these people doing what they consider right. Yikes.
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I'd say Jesus Camp is probably the scariest movie I've seen in a while. Thing is, there's really no editorializing IMO - they just show these people doing what they consider right. Yikes.

Thing is, in the Bible Belt, you will find most evangelicals have no problem at all with Jesus Camp. This evangelical world has been completely shut out from film and media so people tend to fear that which they do not understand.

I find nothing scary about a young boy who is enpowered by God to preach a sermon to a group of people. The whole "raising up an army" was totally taken out of context.
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Can I get a list of movies where you folks claim all this hatred of Christianity is coming from? Everyone is just assuming that these movies exist, but I have yet to see anyone actually list them. Doubt was mentioned in the OP, but he hasn't seen the film, he's just assuming it attacks Christianity, and he is wrong. There Will Be Blood was mentioned, but that movie seemed to be more about the conflict between Plainview and Eli, not necessarily about religion itself. Where are all these Christian-hating movies that everyone claims exist?
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Thing is, in the Bible Belt, you will find most evangelicals have no problem at all with Jesus Camp. This evangelical world has been completely shut out from film and media so people tend to fear that which they do not understand.

I find nothing scary about a young boy who is enpowered by God to preach a sermon to a group of people. The whole "raising up an army" was totally taken out of context.
I know all too well about religion. That's why Jesus Camp is as scary to me as it is.
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I find nothing scary about a young boy who is enpowered by God to preach a sermon to a group of people.
I find it scary because the boy was too young to know one thing from another; he was raised by Christian parents who chose his path for him, and are forcing their religious beliefs on him. I don't think he is old enough to really understand what he is saying; in that clip, he sounded like he was simply repeating things he had heard previously, like a child actor might.
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Everyone? Looks like here it's mainly just the OP.
I meant more him and those who claim the same as him, not necessarily in this thread. He came in and stated it like it was fact, but I have yet to really see any list that supports his original claim that Hollywood hate Christianity, aside from the fact that Hollywood doesn't really make mainstream Christian-glorifying movies.
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their idea of morality is Seven Pounds. A guy who finds redemption in an offensive manner to Christianity morality..
please elaborate
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Probably explains why Milk and Brokeback Mountain won high Oscar praise.
And is there any doubt Penn got his Oscar as a protest vote over Prop 8? Mickey Rourke was royally screwed for a righteous win because of politics.
Old 04-10-09 | 07:09 PM
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LOL, no. Mickey Rourke played himself. Sean Penn became Harvey Milk. Rourke is a good actor, but in this particular situation the two performances aren't even in the same league.
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LOL, no. Mickey Rourke played himself. Sean Penn became Harvey Milk. Rourke is a good actor, but in this particular situation the two performances aren't even in the same league.
You do realize that many reviewers, award ceremonies, and individuals think that Rourke was better. Saying they are "not in the same league" is a big overstatement.
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And is there any doubt Penn got his Oscar as a protest vote over Prop 8? Mickey Rourke was royally screwed for a righteous win because of politics.
There is no doubt.
Originally Posted by Groucho
LOL, no. Mickey Rourke played himself. Sean Penn became Harvey Milk. Rourke is a good actor, but in this particular situation the two performances aren't even in the same league.
Nonsense.


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