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Mr. Cinema 05-22-12 02:10 PM

Re: "Men in Black" gearing up for third edition
 
For those seeing this in 3D Imax: 6-Minute 'Amazing Spider-Man' Preview Set To Play In Front Of IMAX 3D Version Of 'Men In Black 3'

Solid Snake 05-22-12 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 11242649)
I guess since reviews are out.. I can speak more about it. Doesn't seem to be much interest to merit its own reviews thread. And this is more my observations, than a review...

Spoiler:
You get Tommy Lee in about 20 minutes at the front and back end of the movie. And most of the reviews are giving away everything except for the tie in at the end. There's a bit of continuity about K and O and K's other relationships (coming home after his coma in MIB1, did he have any connection to Lauranna in MIB2, and where was O during all this?) that I found confusing. And how does O take over after Zed's death. She wasn't a field agent, she was a secretary! And finally, the ending.. Will Smith kind of gave it away in an interview recently that "while it's a sequel, by the end it's really a prequel." Take off your Back to the Future thinking caps... but when J goes back in time to save K and defeat Boris (both Boris' as there is a Boris #1 and #2. K was able to defeat and imprison Boris #1 back in 1969 and launch the Arcnet to protect Earth. Boris #2 escapes and goes back in time to succeed in killing both K and the Arcnet.) There is an Commander that helps aid Young K and J in their quest to stop the Boris' and he is killed in the line of duty. This turns out to be J's father and J is a witness to all of it and that is how K comes to watch over him. How this ties in to MIB1 with J becoming an NYC policeman and how he is eventually recruited by K doesn't quite fit. But overall, IMO, it's better than the rehash that MIB2 was.

....slightly confused.

Shannon Nutt 05-22-12 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 11242872)
For those seeing this in 3D Imax: 6-Minute 'Amazing Spider-Man' Preview Set To Play In Front Of IMAX 3D Version Of 'Men In Black 3'

Read: Sony is really worried no one is going to show up for their new Spidey flick. :)

Preterite 05-22-12 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11242920)
Read: Sony is really worried no one is going to show up for their new Spidey flick. :)

That's unpossible. We have been repeatedly assured by a poster on this board that the new Spidey is going to be the most awesome thing evar and our favorite movies suck.

Mr. Cinema 05-22-12 06:24 PM

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30 reviews are now posted and it's holding at 63%. 4 top critics have reviewed with 3 of them fresh.

My Other Self 05-22-12 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 11241990)
The second one really isn't bad at all. It's almost exactly the same as Ghostbusters II in that it doesn't really do anything blatantly wrong but suffers from being a soulless phone-in by pretty much everyone involved.

We've all seen much, much worse sequels than Men in Black II and if you honestly think its one of the worst sequels ever you need to watch more movies.

The review from my local paper when that came out had a headline for it along the lines of "TLJ and Will Smith Back Fighting Forces for a Paycheck: It's Ghostbusters II All Over Again".

It's funny but until I really thought about it the similarities are pretty staggering. :lol:

Shannon Nutt 05-23-12 10:12 AM

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Good article on what a nightmare the shoot was:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...ter-movie.html

Tom Creo 05-23-12 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Preterite (Post 11243155)
That's unpossible. We have been repeatedly assured by a poster on this board that the new Spidey is going to be the most awesome thing evar and our favorite movies suck.

Plus, it has the best CGI FX ever seen in cinema history.

Deftones 05-23-12 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11243999)
Good article on what a nightmare the shoot was:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...ter-movie.html

I really doubt Sony ever considered pulling the plug. MIB is a cash cow overseas and there's now way you take a write-down when the light at the end of the tunnel is a movie that can make hundreds of millions of dollars.

Ash Ketchum 05-23-12 10:56 AM

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My own boxoffice instincts are telling me this is gonna flop. But then I've never seen either of the two previous MIB films and I've never understood the appeal of Will Smith. The only film of his I've seen in a theater was INDEPENDENCE DAY, which remains the only film of his I've seen in its entirety. So I may have a blind spot here. :hscratch:

TomOpus 05-23-12 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 11244066)
My own boxoffice instincts are telling me this is gonna flop. But then I've never seen either of the two previous MIB films and I've never understood the appeal of Will Smith. The only film of his I've seen in a theater was INDEPENDENCE DAY, which remains the only film of his I've seen in its entirety. So I may have a blind spot here. :hscratch:

A lot of the appeal of MIB, for me, is Tommy Lee Jones. His deadpan delivery of some funny lines cracks me up.

Shannon Nutt 05-23-12 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 11244113)
A lot of the appeal of MIB, for me, is Tommy Lee Jones. His deadpan delivery of some funny lines cracks me up.

Well, you should like about 15 minutes of MIB III then. :)

My Other Self 05-23-12 08:54 PM

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I still like Will Smith, but TLJ easily made the movies what they were.

It's been disappointing reading he's only in it for a brief time.

My Other Self 05-23-12 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11244026)
I really doubt Sony ever considered pulling the plug. MIB is a cash cow overseas and there's now way you take a write-down when the light at the end of the tunnel is a movie that can make hundreds of millions of dollars.

Although I agree with you I remember there being some serious issues during filming. I mean Will Smith refused to work until part of the script was re-written. That's enough for any studio to yank the plug.

As much as I love the first MIB, a third wasn't really necessary.

Is there a reason why Rip Torn is nowhere to be seen in the trailers?

RocShemp 05-23-12 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11244969)
Is there a reason why Rip Torn is nowhere to be seen in the trailers?

I believe he was not asked to return after his arrest for trying to rob a bank (while drunk, no less).

In one of the spoilers in this thread, it was mentioned that
Spoiler:
his character is dead in this movie.

TomOpus 05-24-12 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11244574)
Well, you should like about 15 minutes of MIB III then. :)

I think Josh picks up the slack very nicely for the remaining minutes :)

devilshalo 05-24-12 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11244969)
As much as I love the first MIB, a third wasn't really necessary.

For a studio without a franchise, it was absolutely necessary. And look what it got Will Smith.. a starring film for both of his kids (Karate Kid and Annie).

All studios want a franchise to milk. It's (supposed to be) guaranteed money. It's tougher to sell a new film, than a somewhat proven franchise. John Carter, Golden Compass and Battleship were gambles at being franchise pictures for Disney, New Line and Unversal. And it's unlikely that they will have sequels.

It's the reason why Sony is really trying to push for Ghostbusters 3.

Mr. Cinema 05-24-12 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 11245214)
For a studio without a franchise, it was absolutely necessary. And look what it got Will Smith.. a starring film for both of his kids (Karate Kid and Annie).

All studios want a franchise to milk. It's (supposed to be) guaranteed money. It's tougher to sell a new film, than a somewhat proven franchise. John Carter, Golden Compass and Battleship were gambles at being franchise pictures for Disney, New Line and Unversal. And it's unlikely that they will have sequels.

It's the reason why Sony is really trying to push for Ghostbusters 3.

Without a franchise? You're forgetting the newly born Amazing Spider-Man franchise?

Dr. DVD 05-24-12 08:37 AM

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A little off topic, but why is Pitbull doing the song for this one? I was kind of looking forward to hearing a new Will Smith effort. :(

sauce07 05-24-12 09:46 AM

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Doesn't Sony have James Bond now?

Solid Snake 05-24-12 10:18 AM

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yeah, Bond is Sony.

And not that it means much in comparison to Bond and MIB but they have The Millenium Trilogy....which is nothing compared to those 2.

E Unit 05-24-12 10:38 AM

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Looks like Ebert really liked it:

Spoiler:

Men in Black III

BY ROGER EBERT / May 23, 2012

Columbia Pictures presents a film directed by Barry Sonnenfeld. Written by Etan Cohen, inspired by the comic book by Lowell Cunningham. Running time: 106 minutes. Rated PG-13 (for sci-fi action violence and brief suggestive content).

"Men in Black 3” comes 15 years after the entertaining original and 10 years after the sequel laid an egg, and the surprise is, it’s better than the first one. Given the passage of time, the entire concept may be new to some audience members, but it still does service: There is a secret agency assigned to keeping track of all aliens on Earth, and there are as many of them as makeup expert Rick Baker can possibly devise. I am not sure how undercover an MiB agent can be when he dresses exactly like the Blues Brothers, but never mind, they get the job done.

The story until now: Veteran Agent K (Tommy Lee Jones) and his younger recruit Agent J (Will Smith) are under the supervision of Agent O (Emma Thompson) when there’s an emergency. The hideously ugly alien Boris the Animal (Jemaine Clement) has escaped from a maximum security prison on the moon. He is the last surviving member of his race, still angry because Agent K shot off one of his arms. His plan: Travel back in time and kill Agent K before that can happen.

An arm like his, you don’t want to lose. Its palm apparently serves as a condo for a nasty little insectoid creature that will leap and take chunks out of you. Indeed, Boris is one of those aliens whose entire body seems to contain openings from which unappetizing things can forage on its victims.

Time travel can become very complicated. To make it simple: Agent J (Will Smith, you remember) tries to travel back in time to prevent Boris the Animal from killing K. This results in a Young K existing in the same time period as J, who is the same age he started as, so the old man and the rookie are now contemporaries.

How this is achieved is the movie’s most impressive achievement. Young Agent K is played, not by Tommy Lee Jones in prosthetic makeup, but by Josh Brolin. The casting is spot-on. He looks like a young Tommy Lee Jones, and he sounds so uncannily like him that director Barry Sonnenfeld, hearing him, allegedly shed tears of relief. While watching the movie, I was convinced Jones dubbed his own voice. But remember Brolin was also a good sound-alike for George W. Bush in “W.”

Anyway, when Young K travels back to save Agent J, and not content to populate the film with countless gob-smacking aliens from Rick Baker’s fertile imagination, Sonnenfeld and his writer, Etan Cohen, also show a Hitchcockian flair for using iconic locations. For reasons I don’t understand, in order to return to the “present,” it’s necessary to fall from a very great height and push a button on a gizmo at the last second. This involves crawling out on one of those medieval-looking eagles atop the Chrysler Building, and the scene works even better because Brolin, with his hair slicked back, looks something like an all-American hero — Cary Grant, say.

A virtuoso final sequence takes place at Cape Kennedy on the day of the first moon landing attempt. Another gizmo must be placed on the moon to save humanity, and this involves a last-minute attempt to crawl out to the Apollo 11 pilot capsule, slap on the gizmo and escape using one of those chutes provided for the astronauts in case of an emergency. Since the first moon launch was telecast with many TV camera and scrutinized by countless binoculars, it seems unlikely this would have gone unnoticed. Maybe there’s a loophole — like if the attempt succeeds, it changes the future and turns out to be unnecessary.

Whatever. The movie gets comic relief from a sidekick character named Griffin (Michael Stuhlbarg), who wears a knitted Elmer Fudd hat and has the ability to see all the possible variations resulting from various events during time travel. “Uh, oh,” he’s always saying, “this is the one where …”

Let me say that although I liked the first “MiB” movie, I wasn’t particularly looking forward to this belated sequel. But I had fun. It has an ingenious plot, bizarre monsters, audacious cliff-hanging, and you know what? A closing scene that adds a new and sort of touching dimension to the characters of J and K.

Solid Snake 05-24-12 10:51 AM

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hrmmmm

Dr. DVD 05-24-12 11:57 AM

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If it were anyone but Ebert, I wouldn't be skeptical.

RocShemp 05-24-12 12:06 PM

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Wow. That review has me really excited about this. And I was already in for Brolin alone.


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