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NoirFan 03-23-09 07:16 PM

Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Synopsis:

Drama is set in 1954, U.S. Marshal Teddy Daniels is investigating the disappearance of a murderess who escaped from a hospital for the criminally insane and is presumed to be hiding on the remote Shutter Island.
Writers:

Laeta Kalogridis (screenplay)
Dennis Lehane (novel)

Cast:

Leonardo DiCaprio
Mark Ruffalo
Ben Kingsley
Emily Mortimer
Michelle Williams
Max von Sydow
Jackie Earle Haley
Patricia Clarkson
Elias Koteas

Release Date:
2 October 2009 (USA)

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Rypro 525 03-23-09 07:23 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
obligatory Im there

I wonder what part Vinny Chase has?

RagingBull80 03-23-09 07:24 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
The premise doesn't really grab me but I will wait and see a trailer.

But then again it is a Scorsese picture so I'm sure it will be good.

Troy Stiffler 03-24-09 06:31 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Cool. I picture this one with art direction similar to Scorsese's Cape Fear remake. But it's always hard to say where Scorsese will go. Regardless, it's always a necessity to see his movies in the theater.

Pointyskull 03-24-09 07:06 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
The book was excellent. I have high hopes for this one...

Sid Yobbo 03-24-09 08:26 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
The news of reshoots for Shutter Island doesn't bode well & Lehane's novels have so far had an extraordinary success rate on the big screen with one great adaptation (Mystic River) & one very good one (Gone Baby Gone). So it wouldn't be entirely surprising if this was the film that broke the spell. Still, I'll cross my fingers & hope that if nothing else Shutter Island at least proves a notch above the awful rubbish Scorsese has been torturing audiences with over the last decade.

Solid Snake 03-24-09 08:45 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
It's Scorsese...I can't really say that the man has made a bad film yet. So I still believe in it. Plus it's under WB no? Doesn't seem like WB would fuck him over...

RichC2 03-24-09 08:52 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by Sid Yobbo (Post 9345352)
the awful rubbish Scorsese has been torturing audiences with over the last decade.

Wow, if that's what passes for awful rubbish these days the movie industry must actually be doing something right for once.

DonnachaOne 03-24-09 09:02 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by Sid Yobbo (Post 9345352)
The news of reshoots for Shutter Island doesn't bode well & Lehane's novels have so far had an extraordinary success rate on the big screen with one great adaptation (Mystic River) & one very good one (Gone Baby Gone). So it wouldn't be entirely surprising if this was the film that broke the spell. Still, I'll cross my fingers & hope that if nothing else Shutter Island at least proves a notch above the awful rubbish Scorsese has been torturing audiences with over the last decade.

Reshoots are common and your bias is obvious. Stop being silly.

Geofferson 03-24-09 09:27 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 9345293)
the book was excellent. I have high hopes for this one...

+1

DVD Josh 03-24-09 09:28 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Sounds like the video game Silent Hill.

Sid Yobbo 03-24-09 11:32 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by DonnachaOne (Post 9345421)
Reshoots are common and your bias is obvious. Stop being silly.

Reshoots happen for a reason, Donna. If the movie worked as originally intended there wouldn't be any need for reshoots. And my 'bias' - such as it is - is against mediocre movies. Since 'Marty' has made a run of those one naturally hopes that this won't be another.


Originally Posted by DonnachaOne (Post 9345421)
Stop being silly.

Oh, poor you.

DonnachaOne 03-24-09 03:42 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by Sid Yobbo (Post 9345867)
Reshoots happen for a reason, Donna. If the movie worked as originally intended there wouldn't be any need for reshoots.

Some things work on the page and don't work in a film, or work by themselves and don't work as part of the whole. Filmmaking is complex, Sid. Reshoots are a part of that, for the best and worst filmmakers out there.

Poink 03-24-09 04:04 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Sure, his best work is well behind him, but that's not to say the man can't still make a really good (even great) film. His recent films are all very solid; they're not as good as Taxi Driver/Raging Bull/Goodfellas, but really, what is? He's far beyond any of the American filmmakers of his generation; how often do we get excited about a new Coppola film? Ridley Scott and Steven Spielberg are some of the only ones who still have a steady output of, and I'd say they're more hit and miss than Scorsese.

Also, movies are about as far form a "working as originally intended" medium as you can get. Everything from script re-writes, changing actors/roles, different edits, multiple takes, different audio mixes, different score use, et al, is pretty common with a lot of Hollywood production. Stanley Kubrick doing 50+ takes of a simple scene didn't make him a hack now, did it?

Sure, reshoots can mean a movie is damaged to the point where it's necessary to add something in order to make it "watchable," but it can also be the equivalent of touching up a few takes in order to make a scene better, albeit while in post-production rather than on-set.

Drop 03-24-09 04:10 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by Sid Yobbo (Post 9345867)
Reshoots happen for a reason, Donna. If the movie worked as originally intended there wouldn't be any need for reshoots. And my 'bias' - such as it is - is against mediocre movies. Since 'Marty' has made a run of those one naturally hopes that this won't be another.

Of course reshoots happen for a reason. That doesn't mean it's a bad reason, though. Reshoots are done to better a picture. What works on a page doesn't always work on set, and what works on set doesn't always work on film. That's what reshoots are for, to make the final film the best it can be.

Not single film has ever been made that ended up exactly as the filmmakers initially envisioned. Films aren't formed until the final cut (and lately, even after).

NoirFan 03-24-09 04:36 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 9345401)
Wow, if that's what passes for awful rubbish these days the movie industry must actually be doing something right for once.

Scorsese has been churning out anonymous, albeit well-crafted, studio product for almost two decades now. Of course it's better than most other mainstream commercial fare, but it certainly can't hold a candle to his deeply personal, risk-taking work of the 1970's. Silence looks like more of a return to that kind of material than Shutter Island, but I'm sure this will still end up being one of the better Hollywood films of the year.

DVD Josh 03-24-09 04:48 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by Sid Yobbo (Post 9345867)
Reshoots happen for a reason, Donna. If the movie worked as originally intended there wouldn't be any need for reshoots. And my 'bias' - such as it is - is against mediocre movies. Since 'Marty' has made a run of those one naturally hopes that this won't be another.



Oh, poor you.

Sid, whenever DOne starts acting like this, go search for his/her posts in the Rock Band thread. Pure gold.

Solid Snake 03-24-09 08:00 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
I may sum up what others have said but....Scorsese is probably the best American director we have. I can see where others may not like Aviator, Gangs of New York, The Departed and other recent fare of his but they're still damn good (Gangs could've been amazing but was still good). Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are without a doubt cinematic greatness it's hard to be that DAMN GOOD. I mean..Coppola hasn't been hot since Apocalypse Now, Spielberg is a great guy but he's become spotty. Sometimes a director wants to tell a good story with no reason to make it a personal one of sorts. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm totally happy for any new Scorsese film cuz he's always good. The man very rarely churns out something we'd call shit.

NoirFan 03-24-09 08:32 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Out of everyone in the almost flawless cast, I am most looking forward to watching Max von Sydow.

DonnachaOne 03-24-09 09:49 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 9346700)
Sid, whenever DOne starts acting like this, go search for his/her posts in the Rock Band thread. Pure gold.

I'm confused. Did I say something bad about Rock Band? I honestly don't recall, can you link?

PopcornTreeCt 03-25-09 02:14 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
DiCaprio always has movies come out around my birthday (Oct. 14th). This one is about 2 weeks early, so I think the date will be pushed back a bit.

Anyway, I don't want to get my hopes up. The casting agent has already done their job to secure my money, hopefully Marty doesn't screw it up. :)

movieking 03-25-09 01:00 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
The book was great, but the ending was a disappointment, IMO.

PopcornTreeCt 03-25-09 02:41 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 9346700)
Sid, whenever DOne starts acting like this, go search for his/her posts in the Rock Band thread. Pure gold.

You're defending someone who called Scorsese's work of the last decade "awful rubbish"?

Dude...

golden_rod 03-25-09 09:55 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
The book was quite good until the ending came along. I'm sure the movie will be the same way; great build-up, horrible climax. I even returned the book to Barnes & Noble afterward because I hated the ending so much.

chris_sc77 03-25-09 10:11 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by golden_rod (Post 9349731)
The book was quite good until the ending came along. I'm sure the movie will be the same way; great build-up, horrible climax. I even returned the book to Barnes & Noble afterward because I hated the ending so much.

It cant be worse than the Mystic River ending could it?

golden_rod 03-26-09 03:49 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by chris_sc77 (Post 9349760)
It cant be worse than the Mystic River ending could it?

Much worse. It's so ludicrous that it borders on fantasy.

DonnachaOne 03-26-09 10:22 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9348649)
You're defending someone who called Scorsese's work of the last decade "awful rubbish"?

Dude...

And I'd still like to know what I've been accused of saying in the "Rock Band" thread. I can't find any posts of mine talking about it.

Zen Peckinpah 03-26-09 11:37 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
I'll see this. Lehane adaptations are 2-for-2, the cast is great (Rorschach!), and it's a new Scorsese movie.

Here's hoping Ben Kingsley chews scenery like there's no tomorrow, the man's a pro at that.

Sid Yobbo 03-27-09 08:49 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 9346700)
Sid, whenever DOne starts acting like this, go search for his/her posts in the Rock Band thread. Pure gold.

Well that's the Scorsese fanboys for you. They just can't bear the slightest criticism of their hero. NoirFan's equally ridiculous defence of Marty, with it's arse licking 'Marty's weakest is still better than most director's best' nonsense epitomizes the Pavolovian knee-jerk reaction these people have to anything Scorsese.

Actually I'd like to meet Noir & Donna in the street. I bet if I just shouted out the name 'Scorsese' they'd both have orgasms on the spot. Fanboys, a source of endless entertainment, bless 'em!

NoirFan 03-27-09 09:51 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by Sid Yobbo (Post 9354113)
Fanboys, a source of endless entertainment, bless 'em!

I fail to see how my comments make me a Scorsese 'fanboy', by any stretch. If anything, I was agreeing with you about the declining quality of his work:


Scorsese has been churning out anonymous, albeit well-crafted, studio product for almost two decades now. Of course it's better than most other mainstream commercial fare, but it certainly can't hold a candle to his deeply personal, risk-taking work of the 1970's.
And you 'arse-licking' comment was frankly insulting. Here's hoping this particular troll goes back to the woodwork from whence he came.

cranberries fan 03-27-09 10:17 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9347134)
Out of everyone in the almost flawless cast, I am most looking forward to watching Max von Sydow.

Me to I would love to see Max von Sydow and Peter O'Toole on the screen together!

NoirFan 03-28-09 09:20 AM

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Early teaser art:

<a href="http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd114/besh1/?action=view&current=shutterislandposter.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd114/besh1/shutterislandposter.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Tarantino 03-28-09 10:43 AM

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Looks like a failed Ledger/Joker poster concept.

= J

RagingBull80 03-28-09 11:44 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Yeah that poster looks pretty terrible.

story 03-28-09 12:45 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
I really, really tried to get into this book. It was difficult, and I loved Mystic River - read it before I knew it was going to be a movie.

Supermallet 03-28-09 04:47 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Mod Note: Stop the bickering. Discuss the movie, not each other.

GreenVulture 03-28-09 06:36 PM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by golden_rod (Post 9350067)
Much worse. It's so ludicrous that it borders on fantasy.

You know, I haven't read any of Lehane's work, but after watching Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone and reading your comment, I am starting to think that ludicrous endings and amazing coincidences are running themes in his books.

Troy Stiffler 03-29-09 01:59 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 
Poster looks good. Definately inspired by The Joker's posters (if not designed by the same company).

I didn't like the 'coincidental' twist in Mystic River. Liked the ending, but not the twist.

I actually just read the plot outline for the first time. While I didn't hope to spoil the ending for myself, I did. But it all sounds ambigious anyways. And one article said that they might be moving it around a little. So I'm not too bummed out about it.

Didn't notice that Scorsese was making a dark, kind-of gothic, movie here. Until today, I pictured it as more of a missing persons/police procedure movie. It should be interesting. He has a way of making things dark and gruesome. You know, kind-of heartbreaking and violent, but not necessairly horrifying. It'll be interesting to see how it works out in a proper suspense/terror/horror(?) flick. I would say that the closest to come to that sort of thing is Cape Fear and maybe Bringing Out the Dead.

movieking 03-29-09 09:53 AM

re: Shutter Island (Scorsese, 2010): DiCaprio, Ruffalo, Kingsley, Von Sydow
 

Originally Posted by golden_rod (Post 9350067)
Much worse. It's so ludicrous that it borders on fantasy.

I can vouch for this. I think it was in the book forum that I said that other books and movies have done this ending before, and have done it better.

Solid Snake 03-29-09 08:07 PM

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Maybe Scorsese will change the ending?


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