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Old 02-22-09, 04:25 AM
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The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Awards Show Discussion.


**Continue the pre-show discussion in the 'Nominations' thread


Tonight, Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:30pm PST from the Kodak Theater in Hollywood, California.

Let's talk show, winners, losers, speeches, Hugh and of course lighting!



Best motion picture of the year
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, A Kennedy/Marshall Production...
Frost/Nixon, A Universal Pictures, Imagine Entertainment and Working Title Production...
Milk, A Groundswell and Jinks/Cohen Company Production, Dan Jinks and Bruce Cohen, Producers
The Reader, A Mirage Enterprises and Neunte Babelsberg Film GmbH Production
Slumdog Millionaire, A Celador Films Production, Christian Colson, Producer

Performance by an actor in a leading role
• Richard Jenkins in The Visitor
• Frank Langella in Frost/Nixon
Sean Penn in Milk
• Brad Pitt in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
• Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler

Performance by an actor in a supporting role
• Josh Brolin in Milk
• Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder
• Philip Seymour Hoffman in Doubt
Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight
• Michael Shannon in Revolutionary Road

Performance by an actress in a leading role
• Anne Hathaway in Rachel Getting Married
• Angelina Jolie in Changeling
• Melissa Leo in Frozen River
• Meryl Streep in Doubt
Kate Winslet in The Reader

Performance by an actress in a supporting role
• Amy Adams in Doubt
Penιlope Cruz in Vicky Cristina Barcelona
• Viola Davis in Doubt
• Taraji P. Henson in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
• Marisa Tomei in The Wrestler

Best animated feature film of the year
Bolt, Chris Williams and Byron Howard
Kung Fu Panda, John Stevenson and Mark Osborne
WALL•E, Andrew Stanton

Achievement in directing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, David Fincher
Frost/Nixon, Ron Howard
Milk, Gus Van Sant
The Reader, Stephen Daldry
Slumdog Millionaire, Danny Boyle

Achievement in art direction
Changeling, Art Direction: James J. Murakami, Set Decoration: Gary Fettis
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Art Direction: Donald Graham Burt, Set Decoration: Victor J. Zolfo
The Dark Knight, Art Direction: Nathan Crowley, Set Decoration: Peter Lando
The Duchess, Art Direction: Michael Carlin, Set Decoration: Rebecca Alleway
Revolutionary Road, Art Direction: Kristi Zea, Set Decoration: Debra Schutt

Achievement in cinematography
Changeling, Tom Stern
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Claudio Miranda
The Dark Knight, Wally Pfister
The Reader, Chris Menges and Roger Deakins
Slumdog Millionaire, Anthony Dod Mantle

Achievement in costume design
Australia, Catherine Martin
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Jacqueline West
The Duchess, Michael O’Connor
Milk, Danny Glicker
Revolutionary Road, Albert Wolsky

Best documentary feature
The Betrayal (Nerakhoon), Ellen Kuras and Thavisouk Phrasavath
Encounters at the End of the World, Werner Herzog and Henry Kaiser
The Garden, Scott Hamilton Kennedy
Man on Wire, James Marsh and Simon Chinn
Trouble the Water, Tia Lessin and Carl Deal

Best documentary short subject
The Conscience of Nhem En, Steven Okazaki
The Final Inch, Irene Taylor Brodsky and Tom Grant
Smile Pinki A Principe Production, Megan Mylan
The Witness - From the Balcony of Room 306, Adam Pertofsky and Margaret Hyde

Achievement in film editing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Kirk Baxter and Angus Wall
The Dark Knight, Lee Smith
Frost/Nixon, Mike Hill and Dan Hanley
Milk, Elliot Graham
Slumdog Millionaire, Chris Dickens

Best foreign language film of the year
The Baader Meinhof Complex, Germany
The Class, France
Departures, Japan
Revanche, Austria
Waltz with Bashir, Israel

Achievement in makeup
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Greg Cannom
The Dark Knight, John Caglione, Jr. and Conor O’Sullivan
Hellboy II: The Golden Army, Mike Elizalde and Thom Floutz

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Alexandre Desplat
Defiance, James Newton Howard
Milk, Danny Elfman
Slumdog Millionaire, A.R. Rahman
WALL•E, Thomas Newman

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song)
• “Down to Earth” from WALL•E, Music by Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman, Lyric by Peter Gabriel
“Jai Ho” from Slumdog Millionaire, Music by A.R. Rahman, Lyric by Gulzar• “O Saya” from Slumdog Millionaire, Music and Lyric by A.R. Rahman and Maya Arulpragasam

Best animated short film
La Maison en Petits Cubes, Kunio Kato
Lavatory - Lovestory, Konstantin Bronzit
Oktapodi, Emud Mokhberi and Thierry Marchand
Presto, Doug Sweetland
This Way Up, Alan Smith and Adam Foulkes

Best live action short film
Auf der Strecke (On the Line), Reto Caffi
Manon on the Asphalt, Elizabeth Marre and Olivier Pont
New Boy, Steph Green and Tamara Anghie
The Pig, Tivi Magnusson and Dorte Hψgh
Spielzeugland (Toyland), Jochen Alexander Freydank

Achievement in sound editing
The Dark Knight, Richard King
Iron Man, Frank Eulner and Christopher Boyes
Slumdog Millionaire, Tom Sayers
WALL•E, Ben Burtt and Matthew Wood
Wanted, Wylie Stateman

Achievement in sound mixing
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Mark Weingarten
The Dark Knight, Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo and Ed Novick
Slumdog Millionaire, Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke and Resul Pookutty
WALL•E, Tom Myers, Michael Semanick and Ben Burtt
Wanted, Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaρo and Petr Forejt

Achievement in visual effects
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Eric Barba, Steve Preeg, Burt Dalton and Craig Barron
The Dark Knight, Nick Davis, Chris Corbould, Tim Webber and Paul Franklin
Iron Man, John Nelson, Ben Snow, Dan Sudick and Shane Mahan

Adapted screenplay
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Screenplay by Eric Roth, Screen story by Eric Roth and Robin Swicord
Doubt, Written by John Patrick Shanley
Frost/Nixon, Screenplay by Peter Morgan
The Reader, Screenplay by David Hare
Slumdog Millionaire, Screenplay by Simon Beaufoy

Original screenplay
Frozen River, Written by Courtney Hunt
Happy-Go-Lucky, Written by Mike Leigh
In Bruges, Written by Martin McDonagh
Milk, Written by Dustin Lance Black
WALL•E, Screenplay by Andrew Stanton, Jim Reardon, Original story by Andrew Stanton, Pete Docter

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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Awards Show Discussion.

Thanks to ‘chris_sc77’ for the schedule according to Cinemascopian:

5:45: ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

5:51: ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY

5:55: ADAPTED SCREENPLAY

6:03: ANIMATED FEATURE FILM

6:05: ANIMATED SHORT FILM

6:14: ART DIRECTION

6:18: COSTUME DESIGN

6:20: MAKEUP

6:30: CINEMATOGRAPHY

6:36: SCI-TECH AWARDS RECAP

6:41: LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM

7:03: ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

7:08: DOCUMENTARY FEATURE

7:10: DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT

7:20: VISUAL EFFECTS

7:22: SOUND EDITING

7:26: SOUND MIXING

7:29: FILM EDITING

7:37: JEAN HERSHOLT AWARD TO JERRY LEWIS

7:48: ORIGINAL SCORE

7:55: ORIGINAL SONG

8:01: FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

8:10 In Memoriam

8:14: DIRECTING

8:23: ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE

8:31: ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

8:38: BEST MOTION PICTURE
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Awards Show Discussion.

Now, this being a TV show, why is it not in TV Talk?

Just in case I don't make it to the end, is 30 minutes of DVR padding enough?

Also, is Hugh Jackman funny enough to pull off hosting?
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker View Post
Now, this being a TV show, why is it not in TV Talk?

Just in case I don't make it to the end, is 30 minutes of DVR padding enough?

Also, is Hugh Jackman funny enough to pull off hosting?
It was decided in a poll to have the discussion in movie talk since it is more about the films than the show itself.

I have no clue as to why the academy thought Jackman would make a good host. He doesn't come off as being funny.
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Awards Show Discussion.

Originally Posted by scott1598 View Post
Thanks to ‘chris_sc77’ for the schedule according to Cinemascopian:

5:45: ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

5:??: ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY

5:??: ADAPTED SCREENPLAY

6:??: ANIMATED FEATURE FILM

6:??: ANIMATED SHORT FILM

6:??: ART DIRECTION

6:??: COSTUME DESIGN

6:??: MAKEUP

6:??: CINEMATOGRAPHY

6:??: SCI-TECH AWARDS RECAP

7:??: LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM

7:??: ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

7:??: DOCUMENTARY FEATURE

7:??: DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT

7:??: VISUAL EFFECTS

8:??: SOUND EDITING

8:??: SOUND MIXING

8:??: FILM EDITING

8:??: JEAN HERSHOLT AWARD TO JERRY LEWIS

8:??: ORIGINAL SCORE

8:??: ORIGINAL SONG

8:??: FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

8:?? In Memoriam

8:??: DIRECTING

9:??: ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE

9:??: ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

9:??: BEST MOTION PICTURE
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Re: The 81st Academy Awards — 2008 Awards Show Discussion.

Are these being streamed live on the net anywhere? Like ABC.com or anything?
I got rid of my cable a few months back and the only network channel I get is NBC now.
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In attempt to stave off the inevitable outrage: please note that Heath Ledger will not be shown in this years "In Memoriam" as he was honored last year.
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In attempt to stave off the inevitable outrage: please note that Heath Ledger will not be shown in this years "In Memoriam" as he was honored last year.
I'm outraged

He should be honored this year, next year and every year thereafter. He was the BEST Joker EVER.
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Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
In attempt to stave off the inevitable outrage: please note that Heath Ledger will not be shown in this years "In Memoriam" as he was honored last year.
That should be made a sticky.
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Not excited about the host at all. When's Colbert doing this?
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I'm a bit surprised that the Best Supporting Actor is so far away from Best Supporting Actress. Don't they usually go one after another?
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if they did both supporting awards first, the Dark Knight fanboys would turn off as soon as heath won
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if they did both supporting awards first, the Dark Knight fanboys would turn off as soon as heath won
Plus, they have the documentary awards after that to help lull them to sleep.

BTW, I know it's early, but who do you think will present the award for supporting actress next year? Will it be one of the other supporting actor nominees from this year, or a friend of Ledger's?
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moved to nominations

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They don't send out a list of winners to the "officers". The results are only known by a handful of accountants. Anybody could have faked that letter given MS Word and 30 seconds.
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What's the over/under on how long the whining will last after the winners have been announced?

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What's the over/under on how long the whining will last after the winners have been announced?

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I'm still pissed that Wings beat out 7th Heaven.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77 View Post
Are these being streamed live on the net anywhere? Like ABC.com or anything?
I got rid of my cable a few months back and the only network channel I get is NBC now.
Try Hulu. They have some stuff like that.
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Hulu doesn't broadcast live. And they only have deals with NBC and Fox.

Try again.
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it depends.

I was watching Olbermann's show and he had a guy on there who does predictions (who predicted the Rays making the world series, and got 49 out of 50 states right for the election). His only somewhat out there prediction is Taraji P. Henson in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button? He thinks that because the acadamy would want to give Ben Button at least one big award.
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I was watching Olbermann's show and he had a guy on there who does predictions (who predicted the Rays making the world series, and got 49 out of 50 states right for the election). His only somewhat out there prediction is Taraji P. Henson in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button? He thinks that because the acadamy would want to give Ben Button at least one big award.
That reasoning would make sense if the Academy decided the awards by deliberating together in a big room, which they don't.
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What's the over/under on how long the whining will last after the winners have been announced?

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I think most of that took place when the nominations were announced. I think Mickey Rourke has a very good shot, but other than him not winning, I don't see much happening that would get people upset (unless you hate Slumdog Millionaire). Some people might get miffed if The Dark Knight doesn't win anything else, but those awards don't draw the controversy that the big ones get.

Well, there is the small possibility that Wall-E might not win for animated feature, since Kung-Fu Panda won the Annie award. That would certainly tick off some people. I know I'd be disappointed.
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They don't send out a list of winners to the "officers". The results are only known by a handful of accountants. Anybody could have faked that letter given MS Word and 30 seconds.
You'd think after the Rathergate debacle in 2004 that people take these types of letters with a BIG block of salt.
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In attempt to stave off the inevitable outrage: please note that Heath Ledger will not be shown in this years "In Memoriam" as he was honored last year.
That reminds me of 10 years back, when Stanely Kubrick was honored during the 1999 Oscars, before the release of Eyes Wide Shut, and then a lot of people seemed to have forgotten as they were wondering why Kubrick wasn't honored during the next year's Oscars.

I even remember that ass Michael Medvead on Politicaly Incorrect discussing Eyes Wide Shut and saying, in all sincerity, "The Academy hated the movie so much they wouldn't put Kubrick in the Memoriam."
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Thanks to the contest we're having, and the above order list, here are all of my picks in order as they'll be given out. It's more for me than anyone else, but what the heck:

Spoiler:
1. Best Supporting Actress: Amy Adams in Doubt
2. Best Original Screenplay: In Bruges
3. Best Adapted Screenplay: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
4. Best Animated Feature Film: WALL-E
5. Best Animated Short: Presto
6. Art Direction: The Dark Knight
7. Costume Design: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
8. Best Makeup: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
9. Cinematography: The Dark Knight
10. Best Live Action Short: Auf der Strecke (On the Line)
11. Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight
12. Best Documentary Feature: Man on Wire
13. Best Documentary Short: The Conscience of Nhem En
14. Best Visual Effects: The Dark Knight
15. Sound Editing: WALL-E
16. Sound Mixing: The Dark Knight
17. Film Editing: The Dark Knight
18. Original Score: Slumdog Millionaire
19. Original Song: Down to Earth from WALL-E
20. Best Foreign Language Film: Waltz with Bashir – Israel
21. Best Director: Danny Boyle for Slumdog Millionaire
22. Best Actress: Kate Winslet in The Reader
23. Best Actor: Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler
24. Best Picture: Slumdog Millionaire


I really wish they'd finally offer an award for stunts, if only to make it an even 25.
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