The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
#276
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
It's also a highly influential movie like Blade Runner, where you can see how it changed cinema, and its influence is all over things like The Matrix and John Wick. It also opened the floodgates for comic book adaptions that weren't A-list superheroes like Batman and Superman (like Blade a few years later), or even comics books that featured no superheroes at all like The Walking Dead. It also brought gothic and industrial aesthetics into the mainstream.
And the soundtrack is absolutely killer.
And the soundtrack is absolutely killer.
#277
Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
But anyway, yeah, WICKED PRAYER was definetly...Something. The scene near the end where you can spot the giggling extra smiling & laughing while participating in Danny Trejo's "Serious" tribal dance says everything about that movie.
#278
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The franchise has been so run into the ground, they should really just start swinging for the fences. The basic premise is completely flexible, but it seems like they just keep remaking the first movie's aesthetic. How about The Crow in space. Medieval Crow. Samurai Crow. Cybernetic Crow. Aztec Crow.
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#279
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The franchise has been so run into the ground, they should really just start swinging for the fences. The basic premise is completely flexible, but it seems like they just keep remaking the first movie's aesthetic. How about The Crow in space. Medieval Crow. Samurai Crow. Cybernetic Crow. Aztec Crow.
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The audience laughed loudly and repeatedly throughout the screening at scenes that were obviously not intended to be funny. I don't know if he stuck around, but I really felt back for Mabius. I really feel like that was the screening that convinced them to dump it DTV.
#283
Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
I watched the pilot, because back then I was a big fan of Mark Dacascos, but it was very much a 90's TV show and too tame.
I've seen all Crow movies, but I don't remember the sequels at all. So for me the franchise is still kind of fresh.
I've seen all Crow movies, but I don't remember the sequels at all. So for me the franchise is still kind of fresh.
#284
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The franchise has been so run into the ground, they should really just start swinging for the fences. The basic premise is completely flexible, but it seems like they just keep remaking the first movie's aesthetic. How about The Crow in space. Medieval Crow. Samurai Crow. Cybernetic Crow. Aztec Crow.
At one point, Rob Zombie was going to direct a Crow movie set in the future; there's a script floating around out there online. (Regardless of how one might feel about Zombie's prowess as a filmmaker, I think his sensibilities would have translated into a cyberpunky incarnation of The Crow.)
Hindsight being 20/20, I sort of wish they made that Crow: Lazarus movie with DMX and Eminem. Might not have been good, but it would still probably be better than Wicked Prayer.
#285
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
I think the whole series is on Youtube, so I might try to catch an episode or two and see if it's bad as I remember it.
#289
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The action in this looks like it came from a John Wick movie.
I still won't see it in theaters, but will watch it on 4K home video. Seems like this is what Ghost in the Shell (2017) should have been action-wise. They've let Rupert Sanders go crazy with the violence.
I still won't see it in theaters, but will watch it on 4K home video. Seems like this is what Ghost in the Shell (2017) should have been action-wise. They've let Rupert Sanders go crazy with the violence.
#290
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
I’ll watch it because I adore the original. I didn’t think The Crow would end up like all the disappointing Predator movies. Some are less disappointing than others.
#291
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The leaked Momoa clip above oozes more style and Crow vibes than that 3 minute trailer. What a missed opportunity.
I've always maintained that the Crow as a film concept hinges on the villains and the first film has it in spades with Wincott, Tony Todd, and Michael Massee. And even in smaller roles, Bai Ling and John Polito as an antagonist were great. Plus you had other fun characters like Skank, Tin-Fin and T-bird. The plot is already thin and the "Crow" doesn't speak a ton so you need an eclectic group of villains for him to play off of.
The sequels just have lame cookie-cutter villains. City of Angels came closest to capturing the spirit and vibe of the original, but outside of Iggy Pop the rest are forgettable. Salvation and Wicked Prayer? The less said the better.
Salvation is my favorite of the sequels (though that is very faint praise) only because it tried to do something a bit different where the central revenge plot is set up as a mystery where the Crow has to figure out who he's supposed to kill.
City of Angels is just a complete rehash of the first film and falls flat because of that even though it's fairly well-made. And Wicked Prayer is just a complete clusterfuck. I would assume that it was based on an unrelated spec script that had the Crow mythology grafted onto it at the last minute, but it was actually based on a Crow spin-off novel by Norman Partridge (who is a pretty decent author and short story writer).
Wicked Prayer was one of the two Crow spin-off novels that I read (the other being Lazarus Heart by Poppy Z. Brite) because I was fans of the authors. I don't remember much about the Wicked Prayer novel, or if it was as bad as the movie, but I can't imagine it was.
City of Angels is just a complete rehash of the first film and falls flat because of that even though it's fairly well-made. And Wicked Prayer is just a complete clusterfuck. I would assume that it was based on an unrelated spec script that had the Crow mythology grafted onto it at the last minute, but it was actually based on a Crow spin-off novel by Norman Partridge (who is a pretty decent author and short story writer).
Wicked Prayer was one of the two Crow spin-off novels that I read (the other being Lazarus Heart by Poppy Z. Brite) because I was fans of the authors. I don't remember much about the Wicked Prayer novel, or if it was as bad as the movie, but I can't imagine it was.
The sequels just have lame cookie-cutter villains. City of Angels came closest to capturing the spirit and vibe of the original, but outside of Iggy Pop the rest are forgettable. Salvation and Wicked Prayer? The less said the better.
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New Lurker (03-14-24)
#292
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
So, does Jared Leto cameo at the end of this Morbius spinoff?
#293
Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
That looks like a movie I will enjoy. That looks like a John Wick movie. It's violent and it's action packed. It's just not a Crow movie. I equate a Crow movie with a certain ambience. A real dark and cinematic vibe to the cinematography. It's not bright. It's dark. It's wet. It's a rain drenched limited pallet visual. It's goth. This doesn't have any of that. I get that updates for new generations need changes that add to the mythos. But the gothic dark almost black and white nature of the original is the vibe that audiences flocked to and basically THE identity of The Crow.
This looks like a well done fun action flick. But it doesn't feel like it fits in The Crow mythos at all. The dialed back face paint. The tattoos. The soundcloud rapper vibe of Eric Draven's look. They were aiming for Ledger Joker. They got Leto Joker. I expect Skarsgard to elevate it beyond the output we got from Leto. This will be well done. It will probably even be good. But this doesn't feel like The Crow. Ledger still felt like Joker... even if he was a new take on him.
Brandon Lee's appearance was almost ghost like. A methodical gothic ghost out for vengeance against the baddest the streets had to offer. This just looks like a mad Twitch streamer sticking it to corporate America.
This looks like a well done fun action flick. But it doesn't feel like it fits in The Crow mythos at all. The dialed back face paint. The tattoos. The soundcloud rapper vibe of Eric Draven's look. They were aiming for Ledger Joker. They got Leto Joker. I expect Skarsgard to elevate it beyond the output we got from Leto. This will be well done. It will probably even be good. But this doesn't feel like The Crow. Ledger still felt like Joker... even if he was a new take on him.
Brandon Lee's appearance was almost ghost like. A methodical gothic ghost out for vengeance against the baddest the streets had to offer. This just looks like a mad Twitch streamer sticking it to corporate America.
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
I'm watching the trailer at work without the sound on. I almost thought that blonde was Jessica Chastain in it, but it's Laura Birn. This movie looks terrible.
#295
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
Really lame and laughable, but I'll probably watch it for the kills.
#296
Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The Crow is set for release on Aug. 23 after having previously been dated for June 7.
#297
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
A late summer release is probably a better idea for this.
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#298
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The 30th anniversary of the original is next month. Disappointed that so far I have not seen any theaters are going to show it.
#299
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Re: The Crow (2024, D: Sanders) -- S: Bill Skarsgard
The day after my birthday.
I'm obviously a huge fan of the original, and this looks better than all the sequels (including City of Angels, which was just way too fucked up to enjoy). This might be enough to make me use my monthly pass to the theater.
I'm obviously a huge fan of the original, and this looks better than all the sequels (including City of Angels, which was just way too fucked up to enjoy). This might be enough to make me use my monthly pass to the theater.