View Poll Results: How bad will Punisher 2 flop?
less 15 million at the BO but more than ten million
21
41.18%
less than 10 million but more than five million
13
25.49%
Five million or less
17
33.33%
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How badly will Punisher 2 bomb?
12-06-08, 06:27 PM
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12-06-08, 06:41 PM
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12-06-08, 07:28 PM
#55
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Thats interesting because I also loved Rambo4 and I loved the shit out of this Punisher movie. It even has the same damsel in distress. I hope people ignore the fancy pants critics and follow their hearts and balls (brains optional) into the theaters because I want another Punisher film by this team.
I'm surprised about all the folks here who enjoyed it, but to each their own. But if you take away the Punisher license this is no different than the dime-a-dozen, direct-to-DVD mob movies that cross my desk every month. Jigsaw wasn't played over-the-top in a fun way...it was just a shitty performance, and since West is a fantastic actor I completely blame Lexi for providing no direction to her actors. And the story was just as cliched as a million other damsel-in-distress crime films. The fact that maybe only two or three deaths out of how many (100?) shows the lack of creativity of something that should revel in its protagonist entertainingly mowing down everyone in his path.
12-06-08, 11:57 PM
#60
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"Gratuitous" [anything] usually is very entertaining.
12-07-08, 01:00 AM
#63
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Um I thought it was pretty clear that West played this so far over the top as he is a pretty good actor... This was just a lovely gratitous, mindless, over the top piece of white trash cinema. I was thinking at first wow this isnt even going to be good in a bad way, then it kicks in and I loved it. Once he goes after the free running guys and we get the
...I knew we were in for a treat!
Spoiler:
12-07-08, 02:07 AM
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Crash TV series? What the hell . . ? I finally saw Crash a few months ago after reading all the crap about it on the web. What a joke. I can't think of a more un-deserving best picture. Even though I disagree with MANY that one is at the top.
12-07-08, 07:34 AM
#65
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Thomas Jane was woefully miscast as the Punisher. This one "looks" much better all around. I hope it does well.
With that said, I ain't seeing it in the threatre, but will most certainly rent or blindbuy for cheap when the time comes.
With that said, I ain't seeing it in the threatre, but will most certainly rent or blindbuy for cheap when the time comes.
12-07-08, 08:42 AM
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Um I thought it was pretty clear that West played this so far over the top as he is a pretty good actor... This was just a lovely gratitous, mindless, over the top piece of white trash cinema. I was thinking at first wow this isnt even going to be good in a bad way, then it kicks in and I loved it. Once he goes after the free running guys and we get the
...I knew we were in for a treat!
Spoiler:
All 50 of us in the theater were laughing our asses off at that.
12-07-08, 10:56 AM
#67
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The boards on BOM are saying 8th place opener with 4 Million for the weekend 
The 2004 movie did $13 million opening (against Kill Bill VOL 2) Domestic: $33, Foreign: $20 = Worldwide: $54. Also DVD sales were high enough to get War Zone made.
So what went wrong? (besides saying the movie sucks)
Loss of Thomas Jane?
No 'big' names in it?
Reboot instead of sequel?
Bad timing with Twilight, holidays, and other action films?
Lack of promotion?
Anyone think there will there be a sequel be it theatrical or DVD?
The 2004 movie did $13 million opening (against Kill Bill VOL 2) Domestic: $33, Foreign: $20 = Worldwide: $54. Also DVD sales were high enough to get War Zone made.
So what went wrong? (besides saying the movie sucks)
Loss of Thomas Jane?
No 'big' names in it?
Reboot instead of sequel?
Bad timing with Twilight, holidays, and other action films?
Lack of promotion?
Anyone think there will there be a sequel be it theatrical or DVD?
12-07-08, 02:23 PM
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Like I said in the other thread, "War Zone" was the biggest pile of dog shit I've seen all year. The Thomas Jane version, had it been set in NYC rather than Florida, would be the "Punisher" to beat.
"War Zone" had nothing going for it other than Stevenson looking the part, too bad the man showed no charisma on screen, the writing was the worst I've heard in a long while, the "New Yawk" mob accents sounded like what a first time writer would assume they would sound like. I mean people were laughing at the delivery of the lines last night but at all the wrong spots. There was clearly a "Batman & Robin" vibe at the theater with the few people in attendance and I think Lexi Alexander went to the Joel Schumacher school of lighting, what was up with all the neon lighting? Seriously, the church Castle talked to the priest at? Looked like it was set up for a rave once shooting had finished.
Being over-the-top is one thing, being hideously bad is another. This movie deserved to flop with the $4 million opening and I hope it dies quickly.
"War Zone" had nothing going for it other than Stevenson looking the part, too bad the man showed no charisma on screen, the writing was the worst I've heard in a long while, the "New Yawk" mob accents sounded like what a first time writer would assume they would sound like. I mean people were laughing at the delivery of the lines last night but at all the wrong spots. There was clearly a "Batman & Robin" vibe at the theater with the few people in attendance and I think Lexi Alexander went to the Joel Schumacher school of lighting, what was up with all the neon lighting? Seriously, the church Castle talked to the priest at? Looked like it was set up for a rave once shooting had finished.
Being over-the-top is one thing, being hideously bad is another. This movie deserved to flop with the $4 million opening and I hope it dies quickly.
12-07-08, 03:53 PM
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Not to defend, but Lexi said she decided to match the color schemes of the comics, and even had wardrobe start over so everyone would be in the same colors.
12-07-08, 07:27 PM
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If anyone has seen the Lexi Belle the girl who directed this movie. She is really hot. To those who did see this movie was this one set on Tampa too? I never could figure out why the first one was set there.
